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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/17 16:17:02
Subject: Blood Angels with my greyknights?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Considering taking a small force of blood angels to play with my greyknights.
What i was thinking of is something like
Greyknight CAD:
Librarian'
5 termies
5 termies
10interceptors
10 intercepters
2 Dreadknights
BA CAD:
Librarian
Raphens Death Company
Cassor the Damned
5 Sangunary Gaurd
5Sangunary Gaurd
not sure how the points will work out as i dont have my Greyknights codex yet, but any opinion on the units? IK theres a nemisis strike force but idk the requirnments for it yet. I picked the Death company and Cassor to aviod taking tactical squads or scouts. Not sure how good the cangunary gaurd are but they seem good with power swords 2+ armor and fear for 1 extra point
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/17 16:19:56
Subject: Blood Angels with my greyknights?
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Revving Ravenwing Biker
England
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The NSF is basically just an alternate CAD with some special benefits (like rolling to arrive from Deep Strike starting Turn 1) and different unit requirements. IIRC it only requires 1 HQ and 1-4 Troops, 0-4 Elites, 0-1 LOWs, 0-1 Fortifications and 0-2 everything else.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/17 16:22:58
Subject: Blood Angels with my greyknights?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Ah thanks
any opinions on the dreadnoughts for each or the armies as well?
Are death companys better than the sangunary gaurd and also any opinion on the sanguiner? just costs too much points?
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This message was edited 3 times. Last update was at 2015/10/17 16:26:38
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/17 17:30:52
Subject: Blood Angels with my greyknights?
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Guarded Grey Knight Terminator
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Gk dreadnoughts are garbage
Can't speak to ba dreads
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2015/10/17 17:32:09
"Glory in our suffering, because we know that suffering produces perseverance; perseverance, character; and character, hope. And hope does not disappoint"
-Paul of Tarsus
If my post seems goofy, assume I am posting from my phone and the autocorrect elf in my phone is drunk again |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/17 17:36:46
Subject: Blood Angels with my greyknights?
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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I would advise against ba as allies for anyone.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/17 19:09:20
Subject: Blood Angels with my greyknights?
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Blood-Drenched Death Company Marine
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Surprise.. Surprise..
I'm shocked to hear that Martel. Truly.
/sarcasm off
To the opening poster, try it out and see how you do. Blood Angels work well as allies in my experience.
Best of luck. Take it easy.
-Red__Thirst-
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/17 19:49:44
Subject: Blood Angels with my greyknights?
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Blood-Drenched Death Company Marine
Little Rock, Arkansas
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Raphen's death company has too many toys in their mandatory load out and not enough bullet catchers. Very inefficient points-wise.
Cassor is kinda nice if you can actually get a charge off. Being a character and challenging can help a lot against powerfists/klaws/meltabombs etc.
But really BA don't bring much to the table. 140 point 5 man jump DC with fist units are good. Cc scouts aren't too shabby for their points. Sanguinary priests are a good way to get fnp and good Ld on any tough or numerous imperial unit. If you don't mind BA being your primary, the veritas vitae can get you double strategic traits, a good force multiplier for an army with a good number of units, and we also have an ap2 power sword relic.
Last but not least is drop pods. Either loaning them out or filling them with decently costed suicide squads or an "all the flames ever" fragioso dread.
None of those are anything top tier though. If you include a decent amount of BA in your force, you're automatically not trying to be as competitive as possible.
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20000+ points
Tournament reports:
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/18 21:16:21
Subject: Blood Angels with my greyknights?
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Dakka Veteran
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Red__Thirst wrote:
Surprise.. Surprise..
I'm shocked to hear that Martel. Truly.
/sarcasm off
To the opening poster, try it out and see how you do. Blood Angels work well as allies in my experience.
Best of luck. Take it easy.
-Red__Thirst-
He's mostly right though. If you play GK and want to run Purifiers you can take the Flesh Tearers formation to get four drop pods to put them in.
Outside of that, BA don't really offer anything that GK need.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/18 21:38:00
Subject: Blood Angels with my greyknights?
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Guarded Grey Knight Terminator
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Do they have access to plasma or melta? Gk like that as well. Gk do hordes and monstrous creatures well. They struggle with av13/14 and 2+ saves
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"Glory in our suffering, because we know that suffering produces perseverance; perseverance, character; and character, hope. And hope does not disappoint"
-Paul of Tarsus
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/18 22:47:32
Subject: Blood Angels with my greyknights?
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Homicidal Veteran Blood Angel Assault Marine
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If you're trying to assist your GK, then you need to redo your BA units.
Take assault squads with meltas or sternguard squads with combi-meltas in drop pods to make up for the lack of anti armor in the GK codex.
There is no need for sanguinary guard, you already have GK terminators that have invulnerable saves and can deep-strike but are a bit slower. I'd get rid of the DC as well, it's too expensive and generally won't do well with that loadout and only 5 models (speaking from experience, I built my first DC that way years ago because it looked cool). I'd go scouts for capping or 5 man tacs for capping, there's no real reason to stay away from them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/22 16:49:16
Subject: Blood Angels with my greyknights?
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Tail Gunner
Wales
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I often play BA/GK and GK/BA and it works really well.
main reasons why they meld well is:
Quickening on dreadknights is crazy good.
2 Lib dreads in pods is a funny way to get 2DK some extra zip turn 2. lib on bikes also have worked for me
Deathcompany is a nice fast cheapish support or smokescreen for dreadknights, people hate them and target them over most units. if they dont you've got a quick unit that can cause some trouble
Meph+dragio+SS/TH termi maybe with a GK lib is a very powerful and resilient unit but will bring you hate! in combat you can draigo tank and let bio meph chop chop behind his 2++ shield wall of SS.
Also had fun with crowe, meph and a BA command squad with SS in a pod. crowe in a challenge with + fnp is dirty, throw down some bio goodness and you may end up with 4+ fnp and EW on him. or go sang and slap the quickening on him for extra attacks
only thing that im gutted about is that GK dont have a JP HQ unit, we need an interceptor HQ to go with DC or SG with dante.
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