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To be honest, the proportions don't fuss me too much - some women have 'em, some women don't and there are a lot of women out there to validate either argument (Although I will admit that a number of the sculpts really do push the boundary of realism - yes, Mechanicum Inquisitor, i'm looking at you). It would definitely be.. odd, to see a whole unit of strikingly buxom women purely as nature doesn't bestow everybody the same way and the military cares not for breast size, but the odd individual here or there with these proportions - not unheard of. My main problem with the sculpts would just be the lack of clothing - hellish unpractical for modern combat conditions but that said, the Spartans used to fight naked at times, so again - not entirely unheard of.

It's a pity they didn't do more IG minis as I'd love some Stormtroopers to start off a mixed gender regiment provided they had proper functional armour and clothing. Even if they didn't, a little GS goes a long way towards fixing that. They can obviously do more sensible minis - evidence below:



Makes me wonder though - how does GW take their obvious... appropriation, of FW designs:

This isn't in my range of ones I would use but it still is a pretty cool looking WIP. This was the latest WIP of upcoming stuff posted on Facebook.

Ooh, nice! A more sturdy looking penitent engine.

 BrookM wrote:
Ooh, nice! A more sturdy looking penitent engine.

Agree - looks great, I'll probably grab one or two - if only they were more sturdy on the table, too.

The legs alone look like they'll hold together much better than a regular Penitent engine ever would.

Like the double use there both sturdier aesthetically and practically.

 Warpig1815 wrote:

Makes me wonder though - how does GW take their obvious... appropriation, of FW designs

I get the feeling that after the legal face slap that was the chapterhouse lawsuit that GW is less eager to throw a ton of money at legally attacking another company that wont actually get them any reuslts. This is pure conjecture though.

Also no boobs on that penitent engine.

Aren't they located in Ukraine as well? A lot easier to sue someone in the USA then someone in Ukraine or China.

I quite like the Mechanic-Eradicator trio of models, but I wouldn't personally buy them in their current form. I could always buy them, glue something over the camel toe, file off the bolt-nipples, paint the skin black, try to cover up the bare arses and the probably-inevitable details "underneath".... but it's a wee bit too much fething about for me. If they had versions of all three with nicely-sculpted robes, I'd be down.

Wargame Exclusive's self-description on facebook wrote:
Wargame Exclusive is a whacking online-store, that is specialized on selling miniatures including exclusively designed models for wargames.

Indeed.

Better than a whacking off-line store, surely?

you guys are whack-tastic

And yeah they are Ukrainian. Might be nigh impossible to sue them even if gw was so inclined to ....

 Azazelx wrote:
Aren't they located in Ukraine as well? A lot easier to sue someone in the USA then someone in Ukraine or China.

I quite like the Mechanic-Eradicator trio of models, but I wouldn't personally buy them in their current form. I could always buy them, glue something over the camel toe, file off the bolt-nipples, paint the skin black, try to cover up the bare arses and the probably-inevitable details "underneath".... but it's a wee bit too much fething about for me. If they had versions of all three with nicely-sculpted robes, I'd be down.

Wargame Exclusive's self-description on facebook wrote:
Wargame Exclusive is a whacking online-store, that is specialized on selling miniatures including exclusively designed models for wargames.

Indeed.

I thought the same thing about the eradicators. I like sculpting though so turning them into bodysuits isn't as far-fetched for me.. I'm just broke

 Warpig1815 wrote:

Spoiler:

To be honest, the proportions don't fuss me too much - some women have 'em, some women don't and there are a lot of women out there to validate either argument (Although I will admit that a number of the sculpts really do push the boundary of realism - yes, Mechanicum Inquisitor, i'm looking at you). It would definitely be.. odd, to see a whole unit of strikingly buxom women purely as nature doesn't bestow everybody the same way and the military cares not for breast size, but the odd individual here or there with these proportions - not unheard of. My main problem with the sculpts would just be the lack of clothing - hellish unpractical for modern combat conditions but that said, the Spartans used to fight naked at times, so again - not entirely unheard of.

It's a pity they didn't do more IG minis as I'd love some Stormtroopers to start off a mixed gender regiment provided they had proper functional armour and clothing. Even if they didn't, a little GS goes a long way towards fixing that. They can obviously do more sensible minis - evidence below:

It's funny: while the model has much better realistic proportions in terms of anatomy... that gun. Oi. It seems miniatures are always cursed to diverge wildly from the plausibly in at least some way.

With both of mine I replaced the hideous gun with something more suitable and less grotesque.



Webley revolver from Warlord British WWII Infantry and a resin plasma pistol from FW. GW's plastics were too big for this model!

 Warpig1815 wrote:

See, I rather like this model. I have nothing against pin-up girls, or female models showing a little skin. It's just the silicon-tastic nature of the other models that bugs me. The lady above is extremely well-sculpted and proportioned. Prodo's girls and the stuff I highlighted before, are not.

 Warpig1815 wrote:
My main problem with the sculpts would just be the lack of clothing - hellish unpractical for modern combat conditions but that said, the Spartans used to fight naked at times, so again - not entirely unheard of.

It's a pity they didn't do more IG minis as I'd love some Stormtroopers to start off a mixed gender regiment provided they had proper functional armour and clothing. Even if they didn't, a little GS goes a long way towards fixing that. They can obviously do more sensible minis - evidence below:

It is a silly state of affairs when the pic above is what constitutes "more sensible". Any idea what happens when you have exposed cleavage and the ejection of shell casings?

Ouch!

On the other hand, 40k and -if we are honest- most non-historical wargames, are essentially sci and/or fantasy comic book melius, so the improbable is the norm. Perhaps the real sillyness is to even bother trying to compare such sculpts to any standard of realistic function.

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 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
It's a shame that one of the two can only be used alongside the car, the way she's posed with her leg up like that.

THe other one seems to be asking for directions.

"Excuse me, can you show me where this place is on the map? I'm lost."

Women drivers amirite?

Or she is showing you the Imperial Doctrine that you violated and why she's about to kill you.

 Eilif wrote:

 Warpig1815 wrote:
My main problem with the sculpts would just be the lack of clothing - hellish unpractical for modern combat conditions but that said, the Spartans used to fight naked at times, so again - not entirely unheard of.

It's a pity they didn't do more IG minis as I'd love some Stormtroopers to start off a mixed gender regiment provided they had proper functional armour and clothing. Even if they didn't, a little GS goes a long way towards fixing that. They can obviously do more sensible minis - evidence below:

It is a silly state of affairs when the pic above is what constitutes "more sensible". Any idea what happens when you have exposed cleavage and the ejection of shell casings?

Ouch!

On the other hand, 40k and -if we are honest- most non-historical wargames, are essentially sci and/or fantasy comic book melius, so the improbable is the norm. Perhaps the real sillyness is to even bother trying to compare such sculpts to any standard of realistic function.

guns that eject casings towards you is rather silly, there are right handed and left handed weapons . I prefer revolvers as I've actually fired those. and old flintlock stuff but not sure that counts as there is no casings

SERIOUSLY...
Bolters are supposed to be caseless.
Las weapons don't have casings to eject.
That means she somehow has an autopistol or a slug gun of some sort. If that's the case, she deserves burnt bewbies.

Also, if large boobs offend people but not the gargantuan biceps and pecs on the male models, then maybe you got a 2 for 1 on those standards... or maybe I'm just seeing double.

Those new weapons look super cool. I wish they had a little less of a techno feel to them as they'd be helpful for Mordheim :/

 MLaw wrote:
SERIOUSLY...
Bolters are supposed to be caseless.
Las weapons don't have casings to eject.
That means she somehow has an autopistol or a slug gun of some sort. If that's the case, she deserves burnt bewbies.

Also, if large boobs offend people but not the gargantuan biceps and pecs on the male models, then maybe you got a 2 for 1 on those standards... or maybe I'm just seeing double.

Those new weapons look super cool. I wish they had a little less of a techno feel to them as they'd be helpful for Mordheim :/

Bolt pistols and some Boltguns do have ejection ports modelled on them.

Bolters used to be caseless weapons, however the RULE OF COOL has dictated that they spit out heaps and heaps of brass like any other conventional projectile weapon out there.

Earlier bolter models did in fact not come with ejection ports, but this has been rectified over time.

migooo wrote:
guns that eject casings towards you is rather silly, there are right handed and left handed weapons . I prefer revolvers as I've actually fired those. and old flintlock stuff but not sure that counts as there is no casings

Despite intended side ejection many times casings are ejected somewhat upwards (or up and over the shoulder) and casings can ricochet wildly off of any surface. Most shooters of semi automatic pistols have at some point been smacked by a casing and that (in addition to posted rules) is why you'll rarely see cleavage and open-toed shoes on the firing range.

Of course now I've broken my own rule and have brought "realism" within 50 yards of 40k.
Doh!

 BrookM wrote:
Bolters used to be caseless weapons, however the RULE OF COOL has dictated that they spit out heaps and heaps of brass like any other conventional projectile weapon out there.

Earlier bolter models did in fact not come with ejection ports, but this has been rectified over time.

RT-era bolters did have ejection ports. Lots of RT-era artwork shows cases being ejected and the models feature them quite prominently and obviously. 2E Bolters lacked the ejection ports. The very first marines - Naismith's ones with the funky knees and lacking huge lower greaves had Laser weapons that we all just used as Bolters because space marines.

When I typed that I had the second edition bolters in mind. Those were my first plastics and gateway into this hobby. Never knew that RT-era bolters were cooler though.

Maybe that pistol is gas-operated blow-forwards, like the Pancor Jackhammer, and fires from an open bolt to facilitate rapid fire?
Approximately as inefficient and unergonomic as a pistol could possibly be but, hey, at least with all that mass that far forward, you won't get much muzzle rise… assuming you don't break your wrist with the first shot anyway.

The ejection port could be in the bottom of the handle too like on the P90.

 MLaw wrote:
Also, if large boobs offend people but not the gargantuan biceps and pecs on the male models, then maybe you got a 2 for 1 on those standards... or maybe I'm just seeing double.

I totally agree - there's no reason to get offended over either one, but treating male and female depictions differently is kinda prevalent. I've not seen american TV blur male nipples, ever.

I'm still allowed to prefer resin 28mm miniatures with smaller chests over watermelons and I'm still allowed to simply not buy watermelon'ed miniatures. I'd never tell WE to stop producing those models, I'm just asking for alternative versions to be made available, too. I won't hold it against them if they don't, but I'd be happy if they did and I'd throw some money in their general direction in exchange for melonfree resin.

nekooni wrote:

 MLaw wrote:
Also, if large boobs offend people but not the gargantuan biceps and pecs on the male models, then maybe you got a 2 for 1 on those standards... or maybe I'm just seeing double.

I totally agree - there's no reason to get offended over either one, but treating male and female depictions differently is kinda prevalent. I've not seen american TV blur male nipples, ever.

I'm still allowed to prefer resin 28mm miniatures with smaller chests over watermelons and I'm still allowed to simply not buy watermelon'ed miniatures. I'd never tell WE to stop producing those models, I'm just asking for alternative versions to be made available, too. I won't hold it against them if they don't, but I'd be happy if they did and I'd throw some money in their general direction in exchange for melonfree resin.

I chock up both the muscles and cleavage (and enlarged rear ends on the women) to heroic scale. EVERYTHING is exaggerated.. Guns, feet, hands, heads, vehicles, equipment.. I think to a point, if you're doing heroic sci-fi or fantasy that's way out there, then size is really whatever.. as long as in hand the miniature looks good there's no problem. Having said that.. I've bought miniatures where in the picture the feet looked stupidly massive.. and I openly complained about the sizes of the hands and the stumpiness of the legs.. but I ended up with the models in question and in hand.. all of that was still true but when the figure is only 1" tall you don't really notice it unless you're really really staring.

 MLaw wrote:

nekooni wrote:

 MLaw wrote:
Also, if large boobs offend people but not the gargantuan biceps and pecs on the male models, then maybe you got a 2 for 1 on those standards... or maybe I'm just seeing double.

I totally agree - there's no reason to get offended over either one, but treating male and female depictions differently is kinda prevalent. I've not seen american TV blur male nipples, ever.

I'm still allowed to prefer resin 28mm miniatures with smaller chests over watermelons and I'm still allowed to simply not buy watermelon'ed miniatures. I'd never tell WE to stop producing those models, I'm just asking for alternative versions to be made available, too. I won't hold it against them if they don't, but I'd be happy if they did and I'd throw some money in their general direction in exchange for melonfree resin.

I chock up both the muscles and cleavage (and enlarged rear ends on the women) to heroic scale. EVERYTHING is exaggerated.. Guns, feet, hands, heads, vehicles, equipment.. I think to a point, if you're doing heroic sci-fi or fantasy that's way out there, then size is really whatever.. as long as in hand the miniature looks good there's no problem. Having said that.. I've bought miniatures where in the picture the feet looked stupidly massive.. and I openly complained about the sizes of the hands and the stumpiness of the legs.. but I ended up with the models in question and in hand.. all of that was still true but when the figure is only 1" tall you don't really notice it unless you're really really staring.

If that wasn't clear: I'm not talking about the commissar posted earlier:



In fact, I already own one of those, it looks just as great as I imagined.

I'm saying the one below is something i just won't buy nor ever like with that kind of chest:

Clarification wasn't really needed. I saw the balloon boobs.. and have seen the same from Brother Vinni.. My point was I think a lot of that is just part of "heroic scale". Or they are bringing back the concept of fertility.. like the old statues and sculptures..