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Tau army is finally in and ready to assemble...this weekend is gonna be busy!

 Retrogamer0001 wrote:
Tau army is finally in and ready to assemble...this weekend is gonna be busy!

Build the cheese. That just looks mean.

yeah. what are the stats on those boxes? Does the Cellophane provide a 6+ cover save?

The Y'Vahra is certainly nasty...and the Cellophane actually provided +1 BS

I just painted up my Y'vahra, and the model alone has me terrified. Heavy + top-heavy + resin elements has me terrified of packing him up and transporting him regularly. :-p

But beyond that, his rules and model are absolutely amazing.

NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:
I just painted up my Y'vahra, and the model alone has me terrified. Heavy + top-heavy + resin elements has me terrified of packing him up and transporting him regularly. :-p

But beyond that, his rules and model are absolutely amazing.

Yeah, I really want to get one at some point. I know a guy who has at least one, but it's sadly not painted. That unit is one of the reasons some people hate on Forgeworld; it is absurdly powerful.

Public Service Announcement.
Tetras are now cheaper per model than Piranhas. Buy them before they fix the prices!

 Verviedi wrote:
Public Service Announcement.
Tetras are now cheaper per model than Piranhas. Buy them before they fix the prices!

Can you explain what you mean? I'd love to grab a few more if this is somehow the case.

The pound crashed. Exchange rates are favorable to the US dollar, so Forgeworld tetras now cost $48 for 2.

Fun with economics!

Fair enough, but when I just tried going through check-out, the exchange rate the site was suggesting wasn't remotely that favorable. :-p Methinks it will still vary depending on your payment method.

NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:
Fair enough, but when I just tried going through check-out, the exchange rate the site was suggesting wasn't remotely that favorable. :-p Methinks it will still vary depending on your payment method.

How's you find the suggested exchange rate?

Well, I'm still waiting for FW to release the new IA book with the TAU campaign as well as the new TAU models before I pick up the Y'vahra! Seriously...I'm greying in the meantime.

 wyomingfox wrote:
Well, I'm still waiting for FW to release the new IA book with the TAU campaign as well as the new TAU models before I pick up the Y'vahra! Seriously...I'm greying in the meantime.

Expect it to be a while, they just released the Tauros Campaign 2nd Ed. not that long ago.

barnowl wrote:
Expect it to be a while, they just released the Tauros Campaign 2nd Ed. not that long ago.

FW had a whole promo for IA 16 at Warhammer World in January. Expected be out this year/early next.
http://natfka.blogspot.com/2016/01/imperial-armour-16-on-horizon.html?m=1

Just bought a Y'vahra, how do you guys use them?

 Plainshow wrote:

barnowl wrote:
Expect it to be a while, they just released the Tauros Campaign 2nd Ed. not that long ago.

FW had a whole promo for IA 16 at Warhammer World in January. Expected be out this year/early next.
http://natfka.blogspot.com/2016/01/imperial-armour-16-on-horizon.html?m=1

Woot missed that. I thought it was another rewrite of Tauros.

 Verviedi wrote:
Just bought a Y'vahra, how do you guys use them?

I use them as extremely mobile gap-fillers and fire magnets. They're going to be a very high priority target for your opponent since they can roast things so easily, so expect them to get a lot of attention. It's going to be moderately difficult to keep them out of sight, but hugging ruins is a reasonable goal. I tend to be extremely aggressive with mine since they can escape from combat relatively easily. Pick a durable, high priority target, and drop some template and/or haywire beatdown as appropriate.

So basically, they're Tau Dreadknights, except without the DOOMHAMMER? Is the FMC mode actually useful, or am I better off just using Jetpack?

 Verviedi wrote:
So basically, they're Tau Dreadknights, except without the DOOMHAMMER? Is the FMC mode actually useful, or am I better off just using Jetpack?

This is possibly the most useful aspect of the unit. A 12-24" move when your max weapon range is 12-14", is indispensable. I love the Y'vara as it is one of the few self sufficient tau units, no need for markerlights as it is BS4, and has a template weapon which requires no BS or ignore cover

Yes, that does sound really good. I'm just concerned about flying it too close to use the flamer, and not being able to use the jetpack to get away after shooting.

 Verviedi wrote:
Yes, that does sound really good. I'm just concerned about flying it too close to use the flamer, and not being able to use the jetpack to get away after shooting.

You are able to use the jetpack afterwords, it has been widely ruled that it only moves as a FMC for the movement phase, and so doesnt count as flying past the movement phase.

So how bout that Tau FAQ/Errata draft?

The biggest things in there is the fact the ECPA riptide is back (altough not other sigsys, a shame, but understandable), the markerlight-jink interaction is great news for us, and the fact that a team of multiple ghosts has multiple countermeasure uses.

Other than that, storm of fire working really well with the pulse blasters is nice, the networked stealth field interaction with terrain-limited stealth is intresting, and everything else is rather obvious.

Not sure I care for the ability of a 35-point Rhino being able to take out a 400+ point Stormsurge just by ramming it while its anchors are down. This may mean that anchoring is not a good thing to do, especially against Battle Company Marines.

I thought the Markerlight/Jink interaction would be based on the player turn, like other simultaneous resolutions. Now that Tau have access to large quantities of Intercepting Markerlights with the Drone Net, that's a nice buff. It won't be too common an interaction, Fliers most often would trigger it, if I had to guess.


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The Skysweep fix was also nice. This makes the formation do something, finally. Buffing underpreforming units, which I think should be the point of most Formations, is always cool.


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 BoomWolf wrote:
The biggest things in there is the fact the ECPA riptide is back

I completely agree. As someone who has had terrible luck with the Ion Accelerator, the ECPA Burstide was my favorite loadout. I also think that, for more casual games, one of these in a CAD is a load of fun, without being overwhelming for most opponents (unlike the Riptide Wing). Plus, from a hobby standpoint, you can take your time and have one really nice Riptide as a centerpiece.
I'm glad they confirmed the ability to take more than one Signature System and mix and match them in the Enclaves. I know it was clear before, but now there is no room for an argument. I love being able to take any of the Eight now, without having to pay the "Commander Farsight Tax"!

Out of curiosity though, when was any of them actually worth fielding?
They all have a mess of unrelated gear, anti-synergy and total lack of focus.
They are cool fluff-wise, but not really worth playing.

 BoomWolf wrote:
Out of curiosity though, when was any of them actually worth fielding?
They all have a mess of unrelated gear, anti-synergy and total lack of focus.
They are cool fluff-wise, but not really worth playing.

You're right, competitively, they are trash. My FLGS has a good mix of casual, competitive, and narrative players. I enjoy using them in the non-competitive settings. Homebrew narrative campaigns are loads of fun, but we try not to go too far off the rails with new rules/characters, so using the Eight there has been perfect. I didn't think I would enjoy "fluff on the table" games as much as I have. My FLGS also has occasional non-competitive events. Our summer Escalation league this year has quite a few new (or new-ish) players so we decided to do purely hobby progress/sportsmanship prizes. It's been so popular, our TO is going to have our next tournament be a friendly Beerhammer as well. I think part of the success is because we have been running ITC tournaments lately, and our turnout and competition level jumped up significantly, so this was a nice breath of fresh air.

MilkmanAl wrote:
With the advent of the Drone Net, drones are pretty clearly the best source of marker lights these days.

A big point for Tetras vs Drones (especially 4x4 Drone Net units) is Leadership checks. Every dead drone means a test, and could mean snapshots next turn, or worse. Jink helps, but you commit to snapshooting, and still might break. Intercepting Markerlights is very potent, on the other hand.

MilkmanAl wrote:
I've recently been playing around with a CAD-based army that exploits the stealth bubble from a Ghostkeel Wing with quite a lot of success.

This must work well to balance out the Drone Net. I love the Ghostkeel Wing as well, and have have found Tetra's low profile to work great to get a 4+ or 3+ coversave without Jinking. I always hem and haw over adding any upgrades to low cost units, but last game I tried a Disruption Pod on one Tetra in each Squadron. Worked real well together, 2+ cover all game, no Jink needed. I haven't tried Wing/Net together yet, I'll have to give it a go. What other combos have been working well with your Ghostkeel Wing?

Tetras are also still more efficient at a point-per-mark count (not by very much though) than the drone net, you don't lose individual ability if the count drops too low (if you are down to last drone team, you lose the BS3), and provide locator beacons.


Both tetras and drone networks are very potent and there is no clear answer on what is better.

Never put a Dpod on a tetra though, a 15 point upgrade to give +1 saves for a model that costs only 35 points to begin with is absurd. save the points and buy more tetras.