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I was just wondering if anyone in the community had fought a Primarch in a game yet. And if you would like to, share what happened?

I fought Angron in an Apocalypse game; Blood Angels/Dark Angels vs. World Eaters/Thousand Sons. This was a while ago, but as I remember He deepstuck behind my lines with some terminators and butchered his way through the Sanguinor, 6 Devastators, 10 Tacticals, and 10 Vanguard Veterans. Fortunately for me, I had advanced the rest of my army deep into World Eater territory and broken the back of his main force. The game ended as a victory for the BA/DA side.

Can you link me to legal primarchs in 40k? I can only seem to see 30k legal ones.

There were those WD rules for fielding Angron in Apocalypse games but that was way back in 5th ed, so those rules are out dated. Primarchs are currently only available to legion lists, I'm afraid.

damn, im starting CSM and having horus or something would be a nice surprise for the enemy! Oh well, looks like ill be suck with Lord of Skulls, heldrake and tyhon (proxy for typus)

Indeed, we play HH and I play World Eaters.
Angron is the LoW in my army. The FW model is amazing.

Honestly, as long as your opponent is okay with it, you could probably get away with house-ruling the primarchs into 40k armies in friendly games.

Yeah, I used Mortarian once in a 30k vs 40k game. He was hilariously tough, but a massive bullet soak.

They are quite fun to play with, and not that over powered for their points. D weapons still turn them to paste.

The Primarchs in HH are rather powerful and count as LoW.
They are 350 to 500 pts.

Yes, several times.
One of my friends (and regular opponents) collects the Primarchs and as of current has 7 of them. I have fought: Angron, Curze and Vulkan. Curze fethed half my army over, Angron butchered a most of it too but I managed to nearly kill Vulkan (he was on one wound and the game ended before I could end him - it still cost me half my army). All these where in games where we had agreed to no Lords of War and my opponent had neither asked nor sought my consent in the bringing of 30K models to a 40K game. Needless to say I was not happy on any occasion.

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I should also add that in my opinion Primarchs are waaayyyyy too over powered to be used in sup apocalypse games (baring 30K where everything is like that).

Yep. Fought an Emperors Children army with their primarch as my IG.

Ended up suicide melta vetting his land raider midfield, he took out the vets with his squad of uber-assault marine type guys, Wyverns drowned out his mooks and an imperial knight splattered him.

Ever want to realize how not-OP a primarch is? Charge them with an equivalently costed IK. See what happens.

I own Horus from 30k... He is a true best with a bunch of special rules. Last campaign he took out two 20 man Ultramarine tactical squads with some help from his Justerian... Also took out a lurking Contemptor too.

the_scotsman wrote:

Ever want to realize how not-OP a primarch is? Charge them with an equivalently costed IK. See what happens.

charge the Primarch with an Imperial Knight. An Imperial Knight to kill off one model. One of the best non FW Super Heavies within the game to kill ONE none MC, none SH, none GC model. And that is your definition of balanced?
Oh, and I nearly forgot the fact that you pretty much drowned him in the rest of your armies shooting first.

 master of ordinance wrote:

the_scotsman wrote:

Ever want to realize how not-OP a primarch is? Charge them with an equivalently costed IK. See what happens.

charge the Primarch with an Imperial Knight. An Imperial Knight to kill off one model. One of the best non FW Super Heavies within the game to kill ONE none MC, none SH, none GC model. And that is your definition of balanced?
Oh, and I nearly forgot the fact that you pretty much drowned him in the rest of your armies shooting first.

Considering the point cost is about the same, yes they are fairly balanced. You're one of the only people I've ever heard complaining that they're OP. 30k players only take primarchs in "fun" games because most of them aren't worth the points compared to the rest of the stuff available to 30k armies...

I've had Horus kill a knight that he chsrged... It had full HP too.

 Toofast wrote:

 master of ordinance wrote:

the_scotsman wrote:

Ever want to realize how not-OP a primarch is? Charge them with an equivalently costed IK. See what happens.

charge the Primarch with an Imperial Knight. An Imperial Knight to kill off one model. One of the best non FW Super Heavies within the game to kill ONE none MC, none SH, none GC model. And that is your definition of balanced?
Oh, and I nearly forgot the fact that you pretty much drowned him in the rest of your armies shooting first.

Considering the point cost is about the same, yes they are fairly balanced. You're one of the only people I've ever heard complaining that they're OP. 30k players only take primarchs in "fun" games because most of them aren't worth the points compared to the rest of the stuff available to 30k armies...

*snorts*, in what sane universe are Primarchs balanced? Especially in a 40K game.

I fought a primarch once as guard. It didn't end well for me

Faced off against Vulkan in apocalypse, he totally dominated the second field. (we had a sewer map set up apart from the main battle)
We still ended up wiping the main field cause it was Eldar/Necron against IoM.

managed to kill ferrus manus in a challenge with my harlequin solitare. literally thought my opponent was going to cry.

 master of ordinance wrote:

 Toofast wrote:

 master of ordinance wrote:

the_scotsman wrote:

Ever want to realize how not-OP a primarch is? Charge them with an equivalently costed IK. See what happens.

charge the Primarch with an Imperial Knight. An Imperial Knight to kill off one model. One of the best non FW Super Heavies within the game to kill ONE none MC, none SH, none GC model. And that is your definition of balanced?
Oh, and I nearly forgot the fact that you pretty much drowned him in the rest of your armies shooting first.

Considering the point cost is about the same, yes they are fairly balanced. You're one of the only people I've ever heard complaining that they're OP. 30k players only take primarchs in "fun" games because most of them aren't worth the points compared to the rest of the stuff available to 30k armies...

*snorts*, in what sane universe are Primarchs balanced? Especially in a 40K game.

They aren't balanced in 40k, because they aren't meant for 40k.

If you allow your opponent to take a Primarch, or any other "super unit", in a game, that's on you. Always discuss lists before hand.

 master of ordinance wrote:
Yes, several times.
One of my friends (and regular opponents) collects the Primarchs and as of current has 7 of them. I have fought: Angron, Curze and Vulkan. Curze fethed half my army over, Angron butchered a most of it too but I managed to nearly kill Vulkan (he was on one wound and the game ended before I could end him - it still cost me half my army). All these where in games where we had agreed to no Lords of War and my opponent had neither asked nor sought my consent in the bringing of 30K models to a 40K game. Needless to say I was not happy on any occasion.

[EDIT]

I should also add that in my opinion Primarchs are waaayyyyy too over powered to be used in sup apocalypse games (baring 30K where everything is like that).

He pretty much got your consent when you played the game.

 gnoise wrote:
I was just wondering if anyone in the community had fought a Primarch in a game yet. And if you would like to, share what happened?

Shared a beer with Russ once. Man, that guy's got stories! His bloody mutts drank half my beer when I wasn't looking.

 Silverthorne wrote:

 master of ordinance wrote:
Yes, several times.
One of my friends (and regular opponents) collects the Primarchs and as of current has 7 of them. I have fought: Angron, Curze and Vulkan. Curze fethed half my army over, Angron butchered a most of it too but I managed to nearly kill Vulkan (he was on one wound and the game ended before I could end him - it still cost me half my army). All these where in games where we had agreed to no Lords of War and my opponent had neither asked nor sought my consent in the bringing of 30K models to a 40K game. Needless to say I was not happy on any occasion.

[EDIT]

I should also add that in my opinion Primarchs are waaayyyyy too over powered to be used in sup apocalypse games (baring 30K where everything is like that).

He pretty much got your consent when you played the game.

Well that might have rung true if said Primarch had been on the table at the start of the game and not hiding inside a transport. Or Deepstriking. They never seem to start on the board.

@GangstaMuffin24: I didnt allow him. He just brought the Primarch, hid it inside a transport/DS'd it in and the popped it on a later turn. And apparently this is fine but me bringing a Shadowsword and ensuring my opponent knew about its presence by having it on the table from turn 1 was a terrible and game breaking thing.

Yeah that sounds a bit cheesy. Our mate used Angron in a normal game of 40k and he got done in in 2 turn's. Really just a funky chapter master IMO. Never been used since.

Went against Ferrus Manus and his Legions as a mixed DA/Tau list with a buddy. Didn't kill him, but annihilated everything else and won.

I fought fulgrim once he murdered my close combat ork list.


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Not sure if that makes him overpowered or not

They're powerful but certainly pay for it in terms of points. I managed to dakka down Angron with dakkajets (that 3+ armour really kills him) after he wiped out a couple squads of boyz, the rest of his army was similarly mauled and we knew that after his death it was just going to be a mop-up for my Orks so we called it a game.

Only time I saw a Primarch used was in Apocalypse. It was Rowboat Girlyman and he got assaulted by a unit of Gants and got stuck there for the rest of the match.. He dident seem very impressive or dangerous.

Merellin wrote:
Only time I saw a Primarch used was in Apocalypse. It was Rowboat Girlyman and he got assaulted by a unit of Gants and got stuck there for the rest of the match.. He dident seem very impressive or dangerous.

Someone did the math, Rowboat is actually the best fighter out of the Primarchs except for Horus.

Logar is probably the best one. Because he chooses his psychic powers and passes his tests on 3+. And has really good deny the witch .

as a rule of thumb you generally as an army have nothing that can handle their raw CC power. even some of the weaker primarchs in cc are just devestating and can crush all before them with ease. so if they CC you that unit is probably dead and just dosnt know it yet. robert gulliman may be known for his tactical genius but he can polish off banshee's before breakfast