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Ignoring the fact that Tyranids have no interest in chaos/demons/warp beings because there's no biological matter to absorb suppose the following situation takes place

All tyranid hive fleets converge on the eye of terror.

How do you suppose the Shadow in the Warp impacts the Eye, or the Demon Worlds and beings in the Eye?

 
   
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i think the warp powers would just create a bottle dimension to trap or divert them, didnt the eldar entice a fleet into the warp away from a craftworld
   
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 dekinrie wrote:
i think the warp powers would just create a bottle dimension to trap or divert them, didnt the eldar entice a fleet into the warp away from a craftworld

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Why is there no biological matter? Of course there is otherwise Space Marines wouldn't be able to live in there as well as all the other humans and what not in there.

Did I miss something and something is magically transformed once in the Eye of Terror?

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It seems like everyone is missing the actual question put up for discussion

"How do you suppose the Shadow in the Warp impacts the Eye, or the Demon Worlds and beings in the Eye? "

 
   
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I always pictured it as if the feedback was too strong for deamons to materialize in the prime material plane. However I think directly in the warp I feel it would have the reverse effect, and might instead start to slowly crumble their link away. There is no stories of nids trapped in the warp for prolonged periods.

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Since the Shadow in the Warp basically blocks all warp-related shenanigans (Psykers either die or can't manifest powers, Daemons start losing strength rapidly etc) I'd say that the Eye itself stays, but the Daemons are trapped within, unable to materialize since they're basically being "blanked" out by the Hive.

However, I would totally pay to see the Hive Mind rip and tear the Chaos Gods a new one.

I doubt it would ever happen though, since neither 'Nid nor Daemon gets anything from fighting each other (read Codex:Tyranids), no biomass for the hive, no souls/blood/whatever for the Daemons.

   
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 Orock wrote:
I always pictured it as if the feedback was too strong for deamons to materialize in the prime material plane. However I think directly in the warp I feel it would have the reverse effect, and might instead start to slowly crumble their link away. There is no stories of nids trapped in the warp for prolonged periods.
I think this is a good thought process on what would happen. With how strong the warp is, I can see the nids loosing their link to the hive mind and becoming feral, just roaming the warp and attacking anything at random. It would make for some interesting themed games. I wonder how someone could model nids to look more feral?

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 Orock wrote:
I always pictured it as if the feedback was too strong for deamons to materialize in the prime material plane. However I think directly in the warp I feel it would have the reverse effect, and might instead start to slowly crumble their link away. There is no stories of nids trapped in the warp for prolonged periods.


Not true, after the battle of Iyanden the craftworld was pursued by another tendril of Hive Fleet Kraken and eventually the Farseers opted to simply open a massive Warp rift in the midst of the Hive Fleet, sucking the entire thing into the Warp. The Hive Fleet spent an unknown amount of time cruising through the Warp, and eventually emerged from a Warp anomaly in the Valedor system. Time spent in the Warp, unprotected by Gellar fields etc, had absolutely no effect on the Hive Fleet at all. In fact, it wakes up and besieged the nearest planet within minutes of emerging into real space. The Hive Mind was completely unfazed by the experience.
   
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Of course it is the Warp so the experience could have lasted 2 seconds so an actual trip to the Eye could go much worse. Plus as I recall the Valedor novel implies that Slaanesh helped the Hive Fleet along a bit.

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 disdamn wrote:
Ignoring the fact that Tyranids have no interest in chaos/demons/warp beings because there's no biological matter to absorb suppose the following situation takes place

All tyranid hive fleets converge on the eye of terror.

How do you suppose the Shadow in the Warp impacts the Eye, or the Demon Worlds and beings in the Eye?
From my understanding, the Shadow in the Warp is something that disrupts the connection between the material universe and the Warp, but in the Eye of Terror, it's literally a gaping open wound in reality where the Warp spills through unhindered, and the difference between the two has no meaning. I don't think the Shadow in the Warp would do much there, and ultimately, Chaos can subvert anything. the powers of the Warp would more than hold their own, and it's not like there isn't an unlimited number of Daemonic entitites to face the Tyranid Horde.

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 Vaktathi wrote:
 disdamn wrote:
Ignoring the fact that Tyranids have no interest in chaos/demons/warp beings because there's no biological matter to absorb suppose the following situation takes place

All tyranid hive fleets converge on the eye of terror.

How do you suppose the Shadow in the Warp impacts the Eye, or the Demon Worlds and beings in the Eye?
From my understanding, the Shadow in the Warp is something that disrupts the connection between the material universe and the Warp, but in the Eye of Terror, it's literally a gaping open wound in reality where the Warp spills through unhindered, and the difference between the two has no meaning. I don't think the Shadow in the Warp would do much there, and ultimately, Chaos can subvert anything. the powers of the Warp would more than hold their own, and it's not like there isn't an unlimited number of Daemonic entitites to face the Tyranid Horde.


Exactly. Saying that the Shadow in the Warp could do something to the warp itself or Daemons haven't understood how the shadow actually emerges; the Shadow comes from extreme traffic between the material universe and the Warp because of the extreme communication of Tyranid creatures. It seems that the Tyranid race enjoys much immunity from everything else either by fanboys and/or some authors if a Tyranid force can enter and leave the Warp without anything happening to it. I can't imagine that pride, warlust or the need to corrupt wouldn't be incitaments for some Daemons or Gods to attack the Tyranids. The argument "well they don't feel, so we'll just leave them be, no matter what" is just too poor an argument...

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