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Well those managers are toast, if it's false they get fired. If it's true they get fired for leaking the info before a formal announcement.

 AlexHolker wrote:

overtyrant wrote:
Why would anyone go back to GWs specialist games after they gave everyone the big middle finger and got rid of everything. Them being GW will also charge a fething arm and a leg for these 'specialist games'.

Because I like Necromunda a hell of a lot more than I like Deadzone. Chances are good that this is too little, too late with the way they've been jacking up their prices, but GW at least could make something worthwhile out of this.

I to much prefer Necromunda over DZ. But the statement still stands, why would you support a company that doesn't care about their customers and will pull support from a product without blinking an eye? How long ago did GW pull the support after relegating a bunch of games to SG that needed only a bit of support?

They're saying they got permission to announce it.

overtyrant wrote:

 AlexHolker wrote:

overtyrant wrote:
Why would anyone go back to GWs specialist games after they gave everyone the big middle finger and got rid of everything. Them being GW will also charge a fething arm and a leg for these 'specialist games'.

Because I like Necromunda a hell of a lot more than I like Deadzone. Chances are good that this is too little, too late with the way they've been jacking up their prices, but GW at least could make something worthwhile out of this.

I to much prefer Necromunda over DZ. But the statement still stands, why would you support a company that doesn't care about their customers and will pull support from a product without blinking an eye? How long ago did GW pull the support after relegating a bunch of games to SG that needed only a bit of support?

Forgiveness, my friend.

 Bottle wrote:

In my opinion Necromunda doesn't need any overhaul. I actually dislike all the changes GW added in and still play by the original book rules.

The core rules are fine, the campaign rules are not. Something along the lines of the Mordheim campaign rules would have worked much better. I am currently in a Necromunda campaign and I had forgotten just how bad the advancement rules are. The updated rules are indeed worse, whoever came up with the the 'house weapons' rules should be ashamed of themselves.

Giving Forgeworld oversight of 'Specialist games' is something that should have happened 15 years ago but better late than never.

If true and IF handled well this is the first good thing that GW has done in years. Maybe their serious financial situation has finally made the denziens of GW towers change their hidebound view of their products.

I'd love to see BFG again. I missed the boat the first time.

 Moopy wrote:
I'd love to see BFG again. I missed the boat the first time.

Yeah, me too. It'd be nice to have another go at it. Assuming this is even real, of course.

Even then, I wouldn't be surprised if they manage to find some way to make the prices completely unreasonable.

Given that a lot of these games are currently being used for various levels of computer games, it's always been surprising that they haven't done tie ins. Maybe they've finally realised that.

Also BLOOD BOWL!!!

First news in the morning the Specialist Games department idea (or a kind of) will be resurrected. Hmm...

The older concepts always felt like they remove products, main GW is actually not bothering with anymore, from their main portfolio and put it somewhere else.

Let's see what will be officially communicated.

 Jadenim wrote:

Also BLOOD BOWL!!!

Warhammer?

I don't know if that was posted yet but, regarding that matter, this is apparently from an US GW: https://www.facebook.com/GWFreewayV/posts/929528593794637?_fb_noscript=1

So it appears it's not just the guys on the other side of the world going crazy!

 Silent Puffin? wrote:

 Bottle wrote:

In my opinion Necromunda doesn't need any overhaul. I actually dislike all the changes GW added in and still play by the original book rules.

The core rules are fine, the campaign rules are not. Something along the lines of the Mordheim campaign rules would have worked much better. I am currently in a Necromunda campaign and I had forgotten just how bad the advancement rules are....

YMMV then but I always loved the campaign rules, especially the random nature of advancements.

I HOPE this is true.

Epic (Armageddon) still is my favourite game and i still have all the other "Specialist games" too (BFG, Warmaster, Blood Bowl, Man O'War, ...) and the only game i don't care much about is Man-O-War, the rest i like(d).
We still play Epic and Blood Bowl once and again.

And I think it would not be a bad choice for GW to do this.
GW has left a big hole by stopping these games that competitors filled with their games, so the market is there.

If GW re-introduces these games using plastics like they started each game with anyway (only later on they used metl and resin), i expect it to sell.
Well, we will see...

And if they would write a DECENT real skirmish game (activation per model) instead of Necromunda / Mordheim / GorkaMorka (the only fun one IMO), they move onto the market most competitors are in.

Well if this turns out to be accurate, I'll be very happy, been thinking about epic a lot lately just put off by the difficulty to collect fresh armies, Necromunda as well, and there is always room for Blood Bowl.

So the new ceo said he do would a top down review of the company. Maybe he asked why gw is sitting on a bunch of popular, potentially money making properties and doing nothing with them. A new ceo for any company wants to put thier own stamp on things. Maybe this is it. If this is true, worst case is new crappy rules and recast minis at high prices. Best is BAC style starters using the old rules and new minis in resin. I am almost ashamed to admit this but I would pay £100 for a new version of mordheim with new minis.

ORicK wrote:
If GW re-introduces these games using plastics (like they started each game with anyway (only later on they used metl and resin), i expect it to sell.

Thing is, if they're being merged with forgeworld i suspect resin will be the primary material used. Hopefully fw resin and not gw "its not called finecast anymore" resin.

For myself:

- Would SO play Epic. Love the idea of 40k-scale battles in a miniature scale that actually makes sense.

- Already play Necromunda and have run two campaigns this year. Have no problem with the rules but wouldn't mind some cool tweaks and improvements to the campaign system. I would especially love some more narrative elements (love those random tables!). Multi-part plastic kits would be insane though, although only if Jes Goodwin did the Escher again.

- Would definitely play Mordheim. I probably could already with the same people I play Necromunda with, but I only have so much time. If they re-released I don't know if I could resist.

- BFG looks really cool, but... I feel like I'm mentally invested in Dropfleet already. Don't know what I'd do if they were to re-release it honestly. I'm not really invested in the aesthetic of BFG like I am in the 40K aesthetic. The ships aren't as iconic and the designs don't do much for me. I feel like Dropfleet wins this one.

- No interest in Blood Bowl.

As a 30K player I'm very, very happy about BFG and Epic making a return under the same banner as Forge World (if it is true).

Finally they can do Istvann and the battle for Terra justice (if it is true).

And I want a Mechanicum ark (if it is true).

I'll be really happy if they bring back BFG and Epic.

I wonder which one they would relaunch first?

I would be jumping all over Necromunda personally. I have 6 gangs already so may as well go full hog and get the remaining 4~6 (if including Pit Slaves and Ash Waste Nomads).

I would also get into blood bowl if the local GW ran a league or had a pitch in store. I was never tempted when I was younger, but now just collecting 10 models and having some light hearted fun seems great.

 Torga_DW wrote:

ORicK wrote:
If GW re-introduces these games using plastics (like they started each game with anyway (only later on they used metl and resin), i expect it to sell.

Thing is, if they're being merged with forgeworld i suspect resin will be the primary material used. Hopefully fw resin and not gw "its not called finecast anymore" resin.

I don't expect plastics as they are simply too expensive to produce. If there are new 'Specalist games' models I don't expect that there will be many and they will be resin. What I think will probably happen is that the rules will appear officially online (probably paid for) with minor updates, FW will dig out the surviving masters and re-release old models and that's about it. In other words the cheapest possible option.

I'll quote the GW Washington announcement here for those who don't want to go on Facebook:

Good evening Hobbyists!

I have some exciting hobby news to share with you all! Games Workshop has established a Specialist Product Design Studio which will include the existing Forge World Studio but also design, create and develop new models, games and standalone product. But that's not all! The Specialist Design Studio will also be responsible for bringing back some of our old favourite games as well!!!!

As if that wasnt enough, this team is also (and I'm quoting from the announcement for dramatic effect) "...will also be responsible for maintaining our journey into Middle Earth. It will be the only GW studio that will produce new product to support Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit."

So there you go! How exciting!? New product for the Hobbit? Very exciting!

I have always a fan of Battlefleet Gothic, Epic Armageddon, and many of the other specialist games. Why not comment below with the specialist game you'd most like to see return with a reboot or just a reprint?

Cheers
Matthew

Well I hope he didn't just quote the previous Australian GW post, it is really weird to make such an announcement in the middle of the week thought, especially two days before another unrelated big release.

 Mymearan wrote:

- Would SO play Epic. Love the idea of 40k-scale battles in a miniature scale that actually makes sense.

There is nothing stopping you playing it now. The rules are easily found online and if you pick Marines/Orks/Guard then its not all that expensive, especially with third party stuff such as:


My club plays more Epic than anything else.

Hmmm still smells fishy as gw purged the masters for most of those games years ago.

Also maybe there was a misundersatnding by a GW minion and what was really said was that FW are joining specialist games now the heresy is going to be plastic.

Chikout wrote:
So the new ceo said he do would a top down review of the company. Maybe he asked why gw is sitting on a bunch of popular, potentially money making properties and doing nothing with them. A new ceo for any company wants to put thier own stamp on things. Maybe this is it. If this is true, worst case is new crappy rules and recast minis at high prices. Best is BAC style starters using the old rules and new minis in resin. I am almost ashamed to admit this but I would pay £100 for a new version of mordheim with new minis.

There is no shame at all in that

When will FW find the time to release nothing but HH Marines/40k Marines now?

I wonder if this has anything to do with that Matt (can't remember his name) fellow moving from Mantic to GW? Also not sure why everyone is getting excited about BB all everyone did in that game was cage cage cage, they may of 1 to themselves they won't cage but before the end of the first half that's what they would be doing.

This feels to me like a cruel prank.

 Silent Puffin? wrote:
I don't expect plastics as they are simply too expensive to produce.

If nothing else, it would be foolish not to make a House Cawdor/Redemptionist plastic kit - it doesn't even matter whether or not they're popular for Necromunda, because zealous Emperor-worshippers rising up to go kill some xenos/heretics/witches are a great fit for 40K too.

SeanDrake wrote:
Hmmm still smells fishy as gw purged the masters for most of those games years ago.

Also maybe there was a misundersatnding by a GW minion and what was really said was that FW are joining specialist games now the heresy is going to be plastic.

Why would they continue to use 20-year-old masters? The modern production processes are far far better than anything from the 90's. If GW want to put out quality products they'd basically need to re-design pretty much everything from that era. I think only the stuff Forge World produced around a decade ago would pass muster now.