Black Friday sales from various retailers

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**Fenriswulf**

Hey folks. So 27th of November is Black Friday in the US, and around this time a lot of places sell stuff for cheap. Just thought I would start this thread so people who know of sales which are coming up can post the details here for all of us to know.

First off, let's start the thread with the offers Wyrd has this year for their Black Friday sale!

Wyrd Miniatures wrote:Wyrdos,

Every year, Wyrd does a sale around Black Friday that lasts about a week. It stretches from Thanksgiving until our company birthday on December 2nd. This year is particularly special because it marks Wyrd's ten year anniversary!
We've got some special things planned for this sale, of which many of the details can be found below!

BLACK FRIDAY SALE
The Wyrd Black Friday sale will run from November 26th until December 2nd. During this time, we'll have a variety of specials up on our webstore.
Because of the volume of orders we receive during this sale, please allow extra time for processing. We will not begin shipping any orders until November 30th.
Items available in the Black Friday sale are subject to change.

Below are the special edition models available during Black Friday:

WYR21039 - Nightmare Coryphee - $35.00
WYR21044 LE - Kaeris Crew (Translucent Orange) - $50.00
WYR21045 LE - Jakob Lynch Crew (Translucent Purple) - $45.00
WYR21046 LE - Kaeris Crew (Dayglow Orange) - $50.00
WYR21047 LE - Jakob Lynch Crew (Dayglow Purple) - $45.00

If you spend $150 or more, you will get the following two models free:

Firestarter, alternative
Francisco, alternative

If you spend $300 or more, you will get the following two models free (in addition to the $150 free models):

Barbaros, alternative
Dr. Dufresne (counts as McMourning)

The free items items will be automatically included in your order; no substitutions.

Below are models that are early releases available during Black Friday:

WYR20425 - Iggy - $11.00
WYR20228 - Datsue Ba & Seishen - $30.00
WYR20332 - Snow Storm - $35.00
WYR20330 - Blessed of December - $16.00
WYR20227 - Shikome - $16.00
WYR20527 - Sue - $11.00
WYR20329 - Angelica - $11.00
WYR20715 - Tengu - $24.00
WYR20625 - Sammy LaCroix - $11.00
WYR20426 - Tuco - $11.00
WYR20331 - Slate Ridge Mauler - $16.00
WYR20328 - Gunsmiths - $18.00
WYR20333 - Silent Ones - $18.00
WYR20229 - The Drowned - $21.00
WYR20528 - Ashes & Dust - $35.00
WYR20428 - Insidious Madnesses - $24.00
WYR20429 - Lelu & Lilitu - $18.00
WYR20123 - Guild Hounds - $21.00
WYR20230 - Dead Doxies - $18.00
WYR20427 - Black Blood Shamans - $18.00
WYR20627 - Bayou Gators - $24.00

And, announcing a brand new model: Aionus, lord of time. Aionus is an Outcast Mercenary created to celebrate ten years of Wyrd. He is made out of PVC and comes fully assembled, ready to hit the gaming table. Clocking in at 12 Soulstones, this figure will be a great addition to any collection. You can pick him up for only $15.
Aionus will receive a general release and is tournament legal with his own unique rules, which will be included in a future Malifaux book; we are just releasing him early to celebrate our birthday!

You can take a look at renders of our special releases by following this link.

If anyone else finds some cool Black Friday sale items, please post them here!

**decker_cky**

Underground lasers will be 20% off all day, but 50% off instead from 6 to 7am EST:

There will be a Black Friday sale. 1 hour only. 50% off everything
Hints
-it will be dark outside in the US
-it will be in the AM all across the US
EDIT the 50% sale starts at 6AM ends at 7AM Eastern US, the rest of the day it will be 20% till midnight
This will be the last and only mention by me because I am a big meanie.

https://undergroundlasers.com/index.php
https://www.facebook.com/UndergroundLasers

**DarkTraveler777**

decker_cky wrote:
Underground lasers will be 20% off all day, but 50% off instead from 6 to 7am EST:

There will be a Black Friday sale. 1 hour only. 50% off everything
Hints
-it will be dark outside in the US
-it will be in the AM all across the US
EDIT the 50% sale starts at 6AM ends at 7AM Eastern US, the rest of the day it will be 20% till midnight
This will be the last and only mention by me because I am a big meanie.

https://undergroundlasers.com/index.php
https://www.facebook.com/UndergroundLasers

Gah, a 1 hour sale in the wee hours of a holiday? Whats the point besides disappointing people?

**Dark Severance**

DarkTraveler777 wrote:
Gah, a 1 hour sale in the wee hours of a holiday? Whats the point besides disappointing people?

To be fair most Black Friday deals are 20% off or less and the 20% is going on the whole day. Now for those on the East coast and those that want to get up really early on the west coast there is an added bonus. For me though I'll just happen to be getting home around 3AM after shopping the 12AM Black Friday sales.... ok maybe closer to 2AM since there isn't a lot that I'm going after, but there is probably about an hour just waiting in line.

**DarkTraveler777**

Dark Severance wrote:
DarkTraveler777 wrote:
Gah, a 1 hour sale in the wee hours of a holiday? Whats the point besides disappointing people?
To be fair most Black Friday deals are 20% off or less and the 20% is going on the whole day. Now for those on the East coast and those that want to get up really early on the west coast there is an added bonus. For me though I'll just happen to be getting home around 3AM after shopping the 12AM Black Friday sales.... ok maybe closer to 2AM since there isn't a lot that I'm going after, but there is probably about an hour just waiting in line.

Glad it works for you. I think it is a pretty pointless promotion.

Also, Black Friday sales are usually 20%? That is the standard web discount most sites use for everyday merchandise. BF sales are often more than that. So, yeah, pointless.

**Dark Severance**

DarkTraveler777 wrote:
Also, Black Friday sales are usually 20%? That is the standard web discount most sites use for everyday merchandise. BF sales are often more than that. So, yeah, pointless.

However I was not talking about online stores. I was referring to regular retail stores and even my local game store since online warehouses are normally discounted. Compared to the usual though they are on par for holiday sales, minus door stoppers or clearance items they are trying to jump. Not to mention Underground Lasers isn't a online discount store nor is it Battlefoam.

Yes you are correct that 10-20% is normal for online discount stores like WarStore and MM. They tend to offer an additional 5-8% because their prices are already discounted for holiday sales. They don't offer an additional 20% off, except on extra stock they are really clearing the shelves for. Those tend to be on specific pieces, much like door stoppers that need to be grabbed or missed.

20% is still better and greater than 0. 5% off of normal 20% off wholesale prices is still only 5% greater than normal. If 20% is considered a pointless promotion, that means the others are also pointless? These are not 2015, these are from 2014 Black Friday (Spoiler taged to not cause confusion with current deals)

Spoiler:

I am sorry but we'll have to agree to disagree.

I am kind of bummed to not really get much notice of other Black Friday sales though, it appears this year might end up being lighter than usual. Even retail-wise a lot of the Black Friday deals are hit and miss, there isn't a lot that I would be waiting at midnight for compared to other years. Online at the usual places seems light as well. MM hasn't updated their black Friday page from last year and I can't tell if WarStore Black Friday page is from last year message or this year.

Black Friday 2015 - 10% off all squads, 20% off everything else
www.madrobotminiatures.com

**AngryMojo**

We'll be having some promo terrain pieces available for purchases of a certain threshold. I hope to get them up this weekend, show you guys what kind of swag you can get.

www.angrymojogames.com

**Fenriswulf**

FFG should likely be having another sale on this year. I grabbed a bunch of DUST stuff off of them last time.

**DarkTraveler777**

Dark Severance wrote:
DarkTraveler777 wrote:
Also, Black Friday sales are usually 20%? That is the standard web discount most sites use for everyday merchandise. BF sales are often more than that. So, yeah, pointless.
However I was not talking about online stores. I was referring to regular retail stores and even my local game store since online warehouses are normally discounted.

Awesome, so we are talking about different things. I was referring to web retailers since this thread is presumably aimed at web retailers ( I doubt most people on this forum care about local B&M store sales).

Dark Severance wrote:
Not to mention Underground Lasers isn't a online discount store nor is it Battlefoam.

I think you mistook my short hand for Black Friday (BF) for Battlefoam. My apologies, but I had not intention of bringing Battlefoam into this conversation.

Dark Severance wrote:
20% is still better and greater than 0. 5% off of normal 20% off wholesale prices is still only 5% greater than normal. If 20% is considered a pointless promotion, that means the others are also pointless?
I am sorry but we'll have to agree to disagree.

Yeah, actually. I find most BF sales of 20% or less pointless. BF sales are supposed to draw traffic to a retailer through massive savings. If I can normally score a similar sale price throughout the year I am less inclined to spend money on a BF sale with a "regular" discount price.

But the pointless comment also refers to the 1-hour 50% sale that Underground Lasers is offering at a time when most people won't be awake or shopping for laser cut terrain.

If Underground Lasers wanted to boost their name and get more customers to try their products why wouldn't they run their sale longer than an hour? To me, it seems rather pointless. Laser cut MDF terrain is not unique or hard to find, so I remain skeptical that 20% off is going to be a gangbusters event for the company. All in all it seems rather pointless to me.

Anyway, since this thread is just you and me griping to one another I'll leave things here. Let's agree to disagree on the merit of UL's sale.

**Polonius**

I'd be willing to wake up early to save 50% on good terrain.

Whatever you think a "good" sale to be is fine, but I know that I look at sales in terms of a price drop. Whether directly from a manufacturer, or a price drop from a store that only does full retail, a sale is a sale if the product is cheaper than normal.

**judgedoug**

DarkTraveler777 wrote:
Dark Severance wrote:
DarkTraveler777 wrote:
Also, Black Friday sales are usually 20%? That is the standard web discount most sites use for everyday merchandise. BF sales are often more than that. So, yeah, pointless.
However I was not talking about online stores. I was referring to regular retail stores and even my local game store since online warehouses are normally discounted.

Awesome, so we are talking about different things. I was referring to web retailers since this thread is presumably aimed at web retailers ( I doubt most people on this forum care about local B&M store sales).

Unsure why you're so upset that a manufacturer direct website like Underground Lasers whose products are not traditionally available from online discounters, or at discount in general, are offering a 20% off sale...

**BobtheInquisitor**

Polonius wrote:
I'd be willing to wake up early to save 50% on good terrain.

Whatever you think a "good" sale to be is fine, but I know that I look at sales in terms of a price drop. Whether directly from a manufacturer, or a price drop from a store that only does full retail, a sale is a sale if the product is cheaper than normal.

50% off of MDF terrain isn't so hot when you factor in the shipping. MDF is heavy, and thus expensive to ship. Unless they are charging outrageous prices to hide the shipping, then the shipping cost is likely around half of the MSRP.

And "cheaper than normal" describes all those Halloween sales that failed to bring the cash for many online retailers. "Cheaper than normal" is pretty useless until it becomes "I'd be a fool not to buy." Shipping being what it is, many customers would like to wait until they can make one huge order at the best prices possible, which leaves "cheaper than normal" cold and alone.

For example, why would I buy some DUST tanks at about 40% off today when there is quite a high chance of scoring some at 70 or 80% off on the same day I can score Halo and GoA at "cheaper than normal" pricing, and only pay shipping once?

**ced1106**

DarkTraveler777 wrote:
Gah, a 1 hour sale in the wee hours of a holiday? Whats the point besides disappointing people?

Of the online deep discount sales I've participated in, most of the "good stuff" was gone in 15 minutes. Some items on sale only had one or two copies.

Haven't done a brick and mortar BF sale in a long time, but I'd also rather have a 1 hour sale than camp out 30 hours before the store opens.

For those of you who actually buy stuff besides games, check out the http://www.bfads.net/forums/

**Dark Severance**

BobtheInquisitor wrote:
50% off of MDF terrain isn't so hot when you factor in the shipping. MDF is heavy, and thus expensive to ship. Unless they are charging outrageous prices to hide the shipping, then the shipping cost is likely around half of the MSRP.

Shipping in this particular case is "Free shipping for orders of 25 dollars or more in the US."

ced1106 wrote:
Of the online deep discount sales I've participated in, most of the "good stuff" was gone in 15 minutes. Some items on sale only had one or two copies.

Yeah there were quite a few things I missed out last Black Friday because of this. Many items were just gone fairly quickly.

I think we all can agree that everyone will determine the value of something differently. We all have our own methods and things to determine if something is considered a good deal or not. The point of topics like this isn't really to discuss if something is a good deal but to alert everyone, then let everyone make their own determination on their own. To quite a few people 10-20% is quite a bit, while others look for 30-40%. What is considered a good deal is a subjective based on individual, environment, country, where they shop, etc.

This Black Friday is looking light though. Haven't see a lot of the 'normal' announcements that we would normally see already. Maybe some will start to show up towards the end of the week but usually we've had a larger list by now.

**BobtheInquisitor**

Dark Severance wrote:
BobtheInquisitor wrote:
50% off of MDF terrain isn't so hot when you factor in the shipping. MDF is heavy, and thus expensive to ship. Unless they are charging outrageous prices to hide the shipping, then the shipping cost is likely around half of the MSRP.
Shipping in this particular case is "Free shipping for orders of 25 dollars or more in the US."

I did not know that. MDF market's gotten intense since last I looked, then.

**highlord tamburlaine**

Is Miniature Market going to actually be prepared for it this year?

Didn't they release a price sheet prior to the actual launching before?

Black Friday is going to be tough for me this year being in Japan and on a wireless network that the inlaws have no interest in upgrading since they are rarely online.

**DarkTraveler777**

judgedoug wrote:
DarkTraveler777 wrote:
Dark Severance wrote:
DarkTraveler777 wrote:
Also, Black Friday sales are usually 20%? That is the standard web discount most sites use for everyday merchandise. BF sales are often more than that. So, yeah, pointless.
However I was not talking about online stores. I was referring to regular retail stores and even my local game store since online warehouses are normally discounted.

Awesome, so we are talking about different things. I was referring to web retailers since this thread is presumably aimed at web retailers ( I doubt most people on this forum care about local B&M store sales).

Unsure why you're so upset that a manufacturer direct website like Underground Lasers whose products are not traditionally available from online discounters, or at discount in general, are offering a 20% off sale...

Don't attribute emotion to my posts that aren't there. I am not upset at anything. I commented on what I thought was a dumb promotion.

Apparently I ruffled feathers. Whatever. Enjoy your 20% off sales, folks. I honestly don't give a feth.

**Dark Severance**

highlord tamburlaine wrote:
Is Miniature Market going to actually be prepared for it this year?

Didn't they release a price sheet prior to the actual launching before?

Black Friday is going to be tough for me this year being in Japan and on a wireless network that the inlaws have no interest in upgrading since they are rarely online.

I am not sure. They haven't updated their Black Friday page, it is still the same one from last year. It has been pretty quite on the website front of things. I seem to remember the information out sooner than the week before Thanksgiving so it will be interesting to see how things pan out.

**judgedoug**

Architects of War jumped the gun and has been offering 30% off all Gripping Beast and now 50% off Fanticide and Uncivil War.

The Fanticide rulebook is definitely worth 17.50 and it includes the spell cards. Great set of skirmish warband rules that had collaboration with Alessio Cavatore, Rick Priestley, and Andy Chambers, with warband/unit creation rules, and awesome bizarro art by Tony Ackland!

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FANTASY FLIGHT GAMES SALE IS ON NOW!

https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2015/11/18/the-holiday-sale-begins/

**adamsouza**

DarkTraveler777 wrote:
[. I honestly don't give a feth.

As a casual observer then, let me point out to you that your amount of posts about it would typically indicate someone who either gives a feth, or was trolling.
This may not be the case, as you've since pointed out that you don't indeed give a feth, but I just wanted to let you know why there is some confusion, about how much of a feth you do give about.

That said, Underground Laser's stuff is good, and 50% for an hour is much better than freezing my tootsies off standing outside in a line, or there only being a limited amount of stock available.

Just so there is no confusion on the matter, I apparently do indeed give a feth about the 50% sale at Underground Lasers

**TerrorLegion**

Wild West Exodus www.wildwestexodus.com has some really insane sales for Black Friday
Copy and pasted from their forum announcement

For those of you wondering what this year's Black Friday sale will look like here is a sneak peak of what's coming.

Get ready for huge savings!

- All Kickstarter Items Pre-Order 15% OFF
- All Plastic Models 40% OFF
- All Resin Models 30% OFF
- All Mixed (ex. starter boxes) 35% OFF
- Rulebooks & Media 50% OFF
- Outlaw & Bandit Bags 40% OFF
- Micro Art Studios Terrain 10% OFF
- Templates & Tokens 10% OFF
- No discount on army bundles.

**DarkTraveler777**

adamsouza wrote:
DarkTraveler777 wrote:
[. I honestly don't give a feth.

As a casual observer then, let me point out to you that your amount of posts about it would typically indicate someone who either gives a feth, or was trolling.

Add another post to your list, then. I had a back and forth with Dark Severance and responded to Judgedoug who incorrectly gauged my emotional involvement in this thread. And now you, who is doing the same thing as JD.

I really don't care about the MDF sale, but I do care about being misrepresented on here. I think a 1-hour sale is stupid, especially when it requires 2/3rds of the country to wake up extremely early to take advantage of it. Add in a company that is pretty much unheard of, and likely won't gain much attention from the sale, and it seemed a pointless promotion to me.

But oh, lordy! What a mistake it was to voice that opinion!

Anyway, I don't give a feth about this MDF sale. I am not participating in it, but that isn't stopping you or anyone else from taking advantage of it. So who is the troll here? Me? Who voiced an opinion, was called on it, defended it, and dropped the topic, or you who is sniping at me for... what reason exactly?

**Theophony**

I think their idea of a one hour sale is a good one for a small company. He can limit the amount of time he has to use by the phone so he can gauge how much he is going to spend himself later

. But if he ran that price all day he would get a lot more business, perhaps too much to fulfill in a short amount of time, or take too much of a loss in profit. So it's a good way to get folks who have been on the edge about buying and still limit the give away. Even Walmart did hour long sales on BF, at least by us.

**Absolutionis**

A wild west exodus post surrounded by two people arguing. How fitting.

**Kid_Kyoto**

TerrorLegion wrote:
Wild West Exodus www.wildwestexodus.com has some really insane sales for Black Friday
Copy and pasted from their forum announcement

For those of you wondering what this year's Black Friday sale will look like here is a sneak peak of what's coming.

Get ready for huge savings!

- All Kickstarter Items Pre-Order 15% OFF
- All Plastic Models 40% OFF
- All Resin Models 30% OFF
- All Mixed (ex. starter boxes) 35% OFF
- Rulebooks & Media 50% OFF
- Outlaw & Bandit Bags 40% OFF
- Micro Art Studios Terrain 10% OFF
- Templates & Tokens 10% OFF
- No discount on army bundles.

I am excited, I love their plastics but they always seemed a bit pricey for models I've not seen in the flesh.

**TerrorLegion**

Kid_Kyoto wrote:
TerrorLegion wrote:
Wild West Exodus www.wildwestexodus.com has some really insane sales for Black Friday
Copy and pasted from their forum announcement

For those of you wondering what this year's Black Friday sale will look like here is a sneak peak of what's coming.

Get ready for huge savings!

- All Kickstarter Items Pre-Order 15% OFF
- All Plastic Models 40% OFF
- All Resin Models 30% OFF
- All Mixed (ex. starter boxes) 35% OFF
- Rulebooks & Media 50% OFF
- Outlaw & Bandit Bags 40% OFF
- Micro Art Studios Terrain 10% OFF
- Templates & Tokens 10% OFF
- No discount on army bundles.

I am excited, I love their plastics but they always seemed a bit pricey for models I've not seen in the flesh.

I'm excited too! Their models are excellent and the resin are far superior than Finecast, my only complaint is a couple of resin models I bought came with mould lines in weird places which takes a little bit more work to prep before painting but the quality of the models makes it worth it. I experienced this with only a couple out of like 10 resin models though. Plastic models are excellent.

The Black Friday sale is awesome too, the discounts are pretty close to what retailers get them for and I plan on picking up quite a few stuff!

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Absolutionis wrote:
A wild west exodus post surrounded by two people arguing. How fitting.

Haha, only it should be set in a dusty main street of the Wild West instead of the Dakka forums!

**judgedoug**

Theophony wrote:
I think their idea of a one hour sale is a good one for a small company. He can limit the amount of time he has to use by the phone so he can gauge how much he is going to spend himself later . But if he ran that price all day he would get a lot more business, perhaps too much to fulfill in a short amount of time, or take too much of a loss in profit. So it's a good way to get folks who have been on the edge about buying and still limit the give away. Even Walmart did hour long sales on BF, at least by us.

Yes, it's called managing growth. Running a 50% off sale for 24 hours would mean, for a small business, the inability to deliver orders anywhere near on time. And at fifty percent off, the margins are slim to none- that would, in effect, cause a small business to effectively lose money in order to deliver a product very late, which is the exact opposite of what a small business needs to do. However, a one hour window, is a window for people who already are planning and intend to get the discount, and therefore will be the most vocal when it comes to posting about their experience and satisfaction.

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and since everyone might have missed it from yesterday

FANTASY FLIGHT GAMES SALE IS ON NOW!

https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2015/11/18/the-holiday-sale-begins/

**Polonius**

I think a 50% sale is also a great way just to get people to look at your product, even if they decide against waking up for the sale.

I had never heard of the company, but the thought of a half off sale made me at least peruse their catalog.

**highlord tamburlaine**

The idea of a 50% off sale certainly got me to take a very close look at what was on offer.

Just got to figure out what time it'll be in Japan when the sale starts. I might actually be home and awake at that time!

Might have to grab those Dystopian Wars measurement rulers, some Wrath of Kings inserts and a bit of scenery if I can get in during that time frame...

**Mr. Grey**

Polonius wrote:
I think a 50% sale is also a great way just to get people to look at your product, even if they decide against waking up for the sale.

I had never heard of the company, but the thought of a half off sale made me at least peruse their catalog.

Same here. I went to browse their site - while I don't think I necessarily need any of their products, at least they're in my mind now. In the future, should I need mdf terrain, at least I'll have heard of them.