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This isn't just a hobby, despite what GW (and many players) would have us believe; it's also a game. If I only have about 6 hours a month to dedicate to warhammer, as a gamer I'd rather spend those precious hours playing the game rather than painting.

Would I like to have fully painted models? Of course. But I'd rather buy new models than buy all the paint and accessories for painting, honestly.

Long story short, I have other interests. I, as well as others, have limited time and money to use on this interest and would rather spend that time playing than painting, and would rather see an addition to my army than a pile of paints I'll have to force myself to use.
   
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the_scotsman wrote:
I actually don't have time recently. I love painting, and paint very fast, I have over 6,000 points painted but if I want to add something to my army and it's unpainted primed or incomplete that's nobody's business but mine.

I think given that our club is generally made up of adults with jobs kids and lives than college kids who go to class 4 hours a day then have free time, a rule like that wouldn't really fly.
all excuses, if you have time to play you have time to paint, I work 60 hours a week, have a kid and wife and I always find time to paint.
   
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I... actually don't know. Help?

Oh my, I will discourage people from playing if I don't paint! You know what? No. I'd rather play than paint. I would never sacrifice play time for paint time. That's just weird.

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Thorned_Lily wrote:
This isn't just a hobby, despite what GW (and many players) would have us believe; it's also a game. If I only have about 6 hours a month to dedicate to warhammer, as a gamer I'd rather spend those precious hours playing the game rather than painting.

Would I like to have fully painted models? Of course. But I'd rather buy new models than buy all the paint and accessories for painting, honestly.

Long story short, I have other interests. I, as well as others, have limited time and money to use on this interest and would rather spend that time playing than painting, and would rather see an addition to my army than a pile of paints I'll have to force myself to use.
no offence but that's a pretty lazy attitude. And you should try to put 100% effort into it. With how much GW stuff costs you want to make the best of it, know likes and primed army it's not fun to play against. If your local store allows it then that's there problem but it doesn't promote a positive hobby
   
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Lol, nothing more than another troll thread by our favorite pal.

You're not gonna get any more discussion than his canned responses designed to provoke the most anger out of the least effort.

Just lock and move on. It amazes me how people like this and others don't get banned.

"Got you, Yugi! Your Rubric Marines can't fall back because I have declared the tertiary kaptaris ka'tah stance two, after the secondary dacatarai ka'tah last turn!"

"So you think, Kaiba! I declared my Thousand Sons the cult of Duplicity, which means all my psykers have access to the Sorcerous Facade power! Furthermore I will spend 8 Cabal Points to invoke Cabbalistic Focus, causing the rubrics to appear behind your custodes! The Vengeance for the Wronged and Sorcerous Fullisade stratagems along with the Malefic Maelstrom infernal pact evoked earlier in the command phase allows me to double their firepower, letting me wound on 2s and 3s!"

"you think it is you who has gotten me, yugi, but it is I who have gotten you! I declare the ever-vigilant stratagem to attack your rubrics with my custodes' ranged weapons, which with the new codex are now DAMAGE 2!!"

"...which leads you straight into my trap, Kaiba, you see I now declare the stratagem Implacable Automata, reducing all damage from your attacks by 1 and triggering my All is Dust special rule!"  
   
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 Matthew wrote:
Oh my, I will discourage people from playing if I don't paint! You know what? No. I'd rather play than paint. I would never sacrifice play time for paint time. That's just weird.
then play at home, if more people refused to play against un painted army's then we would have a lot more pastured armies and it looks a lot better, not pairing your stuff is a pretty weak way to support the hobby, how will you ever play in events.?


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the_scotsman wrote:
Lol, nothing more than another troll thread by our favorite pal.

You're not gonna get any more discussion than his canned responses designed to provoke the most anger out of the least effort.

Just lock and move on. It amazes me how people like this and others don't get banned.
it's amazing how you always comment but never actually contribute to a thread besides just being negative. If you don't like a thread then please don't comment

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I'm unsure how I feel, in all honesty. Even some GW staff think ha-

Oh, it's you. Thank feth I checked the username.


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 Buttery Commissar wrote:
I'm unsure how I feel, in all honesty. Even some GW staff think ha-

Oh, it's you. Thank feth I checked the username.
takes to a GW employee not to long ago and they are seriously thinking now about bringing back the rule of only painted models at the store
   
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Dman137 wrote:
the_scotsman wrote:
I actually don't have time recently. I love painting, and paint very fast, I have over 6,000 points painted but if I want to add something to my army and it's unpainted primed or incomplete that's nobody's business but mine.

I think given that our club is generally made up of adults with jobs kids and lives than college kids who go to class 4 hours a day then have free time, a rule like that wouldn't really fly.
all excuses, if you have time to play you have time to paint, I work 60 hours a week, have a kid and wife and I always find time to paint.
Sorry to say your home life is lacking then. i have two kids and a wife, time work is done and I bring the kids to the park or for a walk there is 10 hours of the day gone from work and kids then there is house cleaning which is atleast two or more hours a day. Then sleep is eight hours, then that leaves a hour or two for me and the wife lets not forget cooking.

The weekends are even worse with more time for the kids and wife finish the cleaning I missed and then try to get some relaxing in. If you have kids and spare time your not spending enough time with them

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Dman137 wrote:
 Buttery Commissar wrote:
I'm unsure how I feel, in all honesty. Even some GW staff think ha-

Oh, it's you. Thank feth I checked the username.
takes to a GW employee not to long ago and they are seriously thinking now about bringing back the rule of only painted models at the store
That is never ever going to happen.

I play and socialise at WHW HQ and they don't insist on it being painted there. Any obstacle that stops GW selling "you can't buy that here and use it unless it's painted" is not going to happen.

We can summarise this topic, and we can all move on.
Dman: I have an opinion.
Everyone else: Other opinions are also valid.
Dman: No they aren't.
Everyone else: [Briefly fooled into discussion] Oh, it's you.


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OgreChubbs wrote:
Dman137 wrote:
the_scotsman wrote:
I actually don't have time recently. I love painting, and paint very fast, I have over 6,000 points painted but if I want to add something to my army and it's unpainted primed or incomplete that's nobody's business but mine.

I think given that our club is generally made up of adults with jobs kids and lives than college kids who go to class 4 hours a day then have free time, a rule like that wouldn't really fly.
all excuses, if you have time to play you have time to paint, I work 60 hours a week, have a kid and wife and I always find time to paint.
Sorry to say your home life is lacking then. i have two kids and a wife, time work is done and I bring the kids to the park or for a walk there is 10 hours of the day gone from work and kids then there is house cleaning which is atleast two or more hours a day. Then sleep is eight hours, then that leaves a hour or two for me and the wife lets not forget cooking.

The weekends are even worse with more time for the kids and wife finish the cleaning I missed and then try to get some relaxing in. If you have kids and spare time your not spending enough time with them
if that's the case then you don't have time for the hobby at all let alone playing or painting.
   
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Buying modles keeps store in buisness, bitchin about paint shuts up kids. Who wins keeping in buisness or. Kids? Cause I for one have more models then I can paint in a few hours a day lol. Hell even if I painted 2 a day every day it would take me three or more years to get them all painted. And that is counting titans as a single model, maybe the problem is more your to poor to have more models then time to paint?

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I... actually don't know. Help?

Mate, just realise that everyne has an opinion, and that doesn't mean they're wrong. Some people don't like painting. Some don't have time. Some haven't found a colour scheme.

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 Buttery Commissar wrote:
Dman137 wrote:
 Buttery Commissar wrote:
I'm unsure how I feel, in all honesty. Even some GW staff think ha-

Oh, it's you. Thank feth I checked the username.
takes to a GW employee not to long ago and they are seriously thinking now about bringing back the rule of only painted models at the store
That is never ever going to happen.

I play and socialise at WHW HQ and they don't insist on it being painted there. Any obstacle that stops GW selling "you can't buy that here and use it unless it's painted" is not going to happen.

We can summarise this topic, and we can all move on.
Dman: I have an opinion.
Everyone else: Other opinions are also valid.
Dman: No they aren't.
Everyone else: [Briefly fooled into discussion] Oh, it's you.
not having painted armies makes the hobby look bad, and if you think GW is going to sit there and just let people play with unpainted stuff then your wrong
   
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I... actually don't know. Help?

Dman137 wrote:
 Buttery Commissar wrote:
Dman137 wrote:
 Buttery Commissar wrote:
I'm unsure how I feel, in all honesty. Even some GW staff think ha-

Oh, it's you. Thank feth I checked the username.
takes to a GW employee not to long ago and they are seriously thinking now about bringing back the rule of only painted models at the store
That is never ever going to happen.

I play and socialise at WHW HQ and they don't insist on it being painted there. Any obstacle that stops GW selling "you can't buy that here and use it unless it's painted" is not going to happen.

We can summarise this topic, and we can all move on.
Dman: I have an opinion.
Everyone else: Other opinions are also valid.
Dman: No they aren't.
Everyone else: [Briefly fooled into discussion] Oh, it's you.
not having painted armies makes the hobby look bad, and if you think GW is going to sit there and just let people play with unpainted stuff then your wrong


So you think they're going to say to their customers that you can't come to the store unless you've painted, and not expect to lose customers? And also, don't stores have tons of displays? That should be enough. Besides, wouldn't your Grav bikers discourage people more than unpainted armies?


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Also, GW isn't a hobby store, it's a company.

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Guys this is a troll topic he is just trying for somethingg he will never have. People care about him

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"GW" does not give two gaks if your army is painted, because they have already sold it to you.

Painted, eaten by the dog, sitting in the attic, it doesn't matter. There's no more money to be had from that plastic once it's gone through the store. Even paint is only brief profit as one pot lasts years.

Individual staff may have opinions. They don't set company policy.


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 Matthew wrote:
Dman137 wrote:
 Buttery Commissar wrote:
Dman137 wrote:
 Buttery Commissar wrote:
I'm unsure how I feel, in all honesty. Even some GW staff think ha-

Oh, it's you. Thank feth I checked the username.
takes to a GW employee not to long ago and they are seriously thinking now about bringing back the rule of only painted models at the store
That is never ever going to happen.

I play and socialise at WHW HQ and they don't insist on it being painted there. Any obstacle that stops GW selling "you can't buy that here and use it unless it's painted" is not going to happen.

We can summarise this topic, and we can all move on.
Dman: I have an opinion.
Everyone else: Other opinions are also valid.
Dman: No they aren't.
Everyone else: [Briefly fooled into discussion] Oh, it's you.
not having painted armies makes the hobby look bad, and if you think GW is going to sit there and just let people play with unpainted stuff then your wrong


So you think they're going to say to their customers that you can't come to the store unless you've painted, and not expect to lose customers? And also, don't stores have tons of displays? That should be enough. Besides, wouldn't your Grav bikers discourage people more than unpainted armies?


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Also, GW isn't a hobby store, it's a company.
they are a model company, they don't care about the game or the rules, and it's very easy for GW to tell you to start painting your stuff to play, you think they care if they lose customers, if they did then AOS would have never happend
   
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I... actually don't know. Help?

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Haven't we established AoS was an attempt to save Fantasy?

But who would be discouraged to play if you saw an unpainted army? All I would feel would be encouragement, since, I'd want to paint my stuff.

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These topics really need a flowchart diagram at this point.


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"If you don't agree with the OP, why post in a thread"

I have a ton of painted models, and I love painting. The vast majority of the time I do play with painted armies. But I understand unlike some people that others may not be in the exact same situation as me and want to enjoy my hobby. So I'm generally gonna opt to go for the "don't be a jerk because I can" option.

"Got you, Yugi! Your Rubric Marines can't fall back because I have declared the tertiary kaptaris ka'tah stance two, after the secondary dacatarai ka'tah last turn!"

"So you think, Kaiba! I declared my Thousand Sons the cult of Duplicity, which means all my psykers have access to the Sorcerous Facade power! Furthermore I will spend 8 Cabal Points to invoke Cabbalistic Focus, causing the rubrics to appear behind your custodes! The Vengeance for the Wronged and Sorcerous Fullisade stratagems along with the Malefic Maelstrom infernal pact evoked earlier in the command phase allows me to double their firepower, letting me wound on 2s and 3s!"

"you think it is you who has gotten me, yugi, but it is I who have gotten you! I declare the ever-vigilant stratagem to attack your rubrics with my custodes' ranged weapons, which with the new codex are now DAMAGE 2!!"

"...which leads you straight into my trap, Kaiba, you see I now declare the stratagem Implacable Automata, reducing all damage from your attacks by 1 and triggering my All is Dust special rule!"  
   
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Dman137 wrote:
takes to a GW employee not to long ago and they are seriously thinking now about bringing back the rule of only painted models at the store


Did they feel they had too many customers or something?

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Yeah, when i read the small novel that is the Death Guard unit options and think about resolving the attacks from a melee-oriented min size death guard squad, the thing that springs to mind is "Accessible!"

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 insaniak wrote:

You're not. If you're worried about your opponent using 'fake' rules, you're having fun the wrong way. This hobby isn't about rules. It's about buying Citadel miniatures.

Please report to your nearest GW store for attitude readjustment. Take your wallet.
 
   
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I... actually don't know. Help?

Although I disagree with OP, I do feel a bit of a twinge when I see a 2000+ army that is completely unpainted.

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 vipoid wrote:
Dman137 wrote:
takes to a GW employee not to long ago and they are seriously thinking now about bringing back the rule of only painted models at the store


Did they feel they had too many customers or something?
GW makes a lot of does a lot of things that don't make sense and only piss off everyone else, huge price increase, AOS, "totally balanced codexs" and best of all today the Black Friday sale where you don't really save on anything because what you do save is just random units you would never buy lol
   
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I... actually don't know. Help?

Dman137 wrote:
 vipoid wrote:
Dman137 wrote:
takes to a GW employee not to long ago and they are seriously thinking now about bringing back the rule of only painted models at the store


Did they feel they had too many customers or something?
GW makes a lot of does a lot of things that don't make sense and only piss off everyone else, huge price increase, AOS, "totally balanced codexs" and best of all today the Black Friday sale where you don't really save on anything because what you do save is just random units you would never buy lol


What does this have to do with painting?

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 Matthew wrote:
Although I disagree with OP, I do feel a bit of a twinge when I see a 2000+ army that is completely unpainted.
My friend owns roughly 22K of Imperial forces.
He has no interest in painting or modelling, and just builds and plays.

His custom and money is no less valid to GW than mine, so I'm quite live and let live.


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 Matthew wrote:
Dman137 wrote:
 vipoid wrote:
Dman137 wrote:
takes to a GW employee not to long ago and they are seriously thinking now about bringing back the rule of only painted models at the store


Did they feel they had too many customers or something?
GW makes a lot of does a lot of things that don't make sense and only piss off everyone else, huge price increase, AOS, "totally balanced codexs" and best of all today the Black Friday sale where you don't really save on anything because what you do save is just random units you would never buy lol


What does this have to do with painting?
it's has to do with the fact that GW will invoke a rule like you need painted stuff or you can't play on there tables. It's really not that hard to get your stuff painted, it's just like when you want to lose weight, take some time and work out and don't be lazy same applys for painting your stuff, you paid a lot of money for something that's just going to stay black.? Show some effort and paint your stuff
   
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I... actually don't know. Help?

Dman137 wrote:
 Matthew wrote:
Dman137 wrote:
 vipoid wrote:
Dman137 wrote:
takes to a GW employee not to long ago and they are seriously thinking now about bringing back the rule of only painted models at the store


Did they feel they had too many customers or something?
GW makes a lot of does a lot of things that don't make sense and only piss off everyone else, huge price increase, AOS, "totally balanced codexs" and best of all today the Black Friday sale where you don't really save on anything because what you do save is just random units you would never buy lol


What does this have to do with painting?
it's has to do with the fact that GW will invoke a rule like you need painted stuff or you can't play on there tables. It's really not that hard to get your stuff painted, it's just like when you want to lose weight, take some time and work out and don't be lazy same applys for painting your stuff, you paid a lot of money for something that's just going to stay black.? Show some effort and paint your stuff


How will GW benefit from enforcing that rule?

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