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I sure hope the Genestealer cult is actually happening. They make tangible the fear of alien infiltration from within the Imperium.

 the_Armyman wrote:

Kid_Kyoto wrote:What I heard is that they really want to make them happen but want them to be great and there's a small problem with the undercuts for the sleeves but they're working real hard on it and they should be out real soon because Jes promised they're coming.

THOSE. FETHING. SLEEVES. A lot of people don't now this, but the sleeves on the new SOB plastics are actually four-dimensional objects constructed from unobtanium. Jes is working on it, tho.

That was what was being said 5 years ago... so at this point at best its a back burner project. After GW did Skitarii its hard to imagine a sleeve GW couldn't do,

 streetsamurai wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:

 gorgon wrote:
Well, you know *I* want GCults to happen. And I trust Hastings and Sad Panda. I don't trust BOLS rumors even a little.

However, it is *believable* that GW would just throw some regular Tyranids into the box, or cobble together some infiltrating Tyranids and slap a "Genestealer Cult" label on them. So we'll see.

From what I've heard, that's not the case here.

Hopefully they use the release of the cult as an excuse to redo the genestealers models. This kit is starting to show its age.

It wouldn't hurt, but IMO the purestrain kit is okay. What the kit could actually use are some rules that take advantage of the special heads on the sprue.

 Alex C wrote:
If Genestealer Cult makes a re-appearance I certainly hope they'll be rolling around in their pimpwagons again.

Maybe not in the boardgame, but at least some art or fiction. They had sweet rides back in the day.

I have converted "trucks" ready to go if it happens!

Glad the title called this one out as BoLSpit so I didn't get my hopes up.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Bottle wrote:
Sad Panda said this is coming.

So it's coming.

I will be buying it for the Genestealer cult!

Sad Panda said that there was another boardgame coming and gave no specifics.
I checked for his post via the rumor tracker, and here it is:

Oct 2015
True. Deathwatch/Genestealer Cult will almost certainly be the next board game after EF and Calth. But not this year.

So no specifics beyond "it's almost certainly the next board game" and "it's not this year"

...and he also confirmed the two forces in it lol. (Deathwatch and Genestealer Cults)

the_scotsman wrote:
Glad the title called this one out as BoLSpit so I didn't get my hopes up.

Again:

 Alpharius wrote:
There are better sources for this than those two places - those two places are just up to their usual "repost + add something to enhance clickbaitability" shenanigans.

It's just this time they also happen to be 'right'. More or less.

So, in short, yes, get your....hopes up!

While boardgames are awesome in their own right, if they can all be used in 40k, why not just skip the hassle and release them as boxed units instead of in a $100+ game? All that hassle for Betrayal at Calth when 10-20 pecemt will realistically play the game, rather than use them all together for a 30k army.

The Deathwatch could be as simple as an upgrade pack like it was ages ago, and a genestealer cult box set of some (10-12) brothers and a Magus would be great, like the cultists from Dark Vengeance.

Although I shouldn't complain at all, every box set from GW always gets parted out cheaply on Ebay, for cheaper than a GW box set of the same would be, like the 8 DV Chosen that regularly go for 10 bucks or less, so boxed sets give the best of both worlds.

 AegisGrimm wrote:
While boardgames are awesome in their own right, if they can all be used in 40k, why not just skip the hassle and release them as boxed units instead of in a $100+ game? All that hassle for Betrayal at Calth when 10-20 pecemt will realistically play the game, rather than use them all together for a 30k army.

The Deathwatch could be as simple as an upgrade pack like it was ages ago, and a genestealer cult box set of some (10-12) brothers and a Magus would be great, like the cultists from Dark Vengeance.

Although I shouldn't complain at all, every box set from GW always gets parted out cheaply on Ebay, for cheaper than a GW box set of the same would be, like the 8 DV Chosen that regularly go for 10 bucks or less, so boxed sets give the best of both worlds.

I think you answered your own question in a way. They know a certain large portion of the customers will gobble up a plastic 30k release in any form. Instead of selling boxes for $X they can package them in a board game and sell them for $X+Y and sell just as many. This also has the added bonus of possibly appealing to new or different customers who want a board game. Finally, it's more attractive to those who are hesitant to delve into 30k. They start with the board game and then inevitably expand their armies even if they didn't set out to originally.

Yep, what orkybenji said.

 mjl7atlas wrote:
Back to those plastic SoB's, why will they not release them already!!!???

I heard they were done and when Jes showed them everyone wept from their beauty until finally Kirby rose up and smashed the molds screaming "this fallen world is not worthy of such perfection!'

That's what I heard.

Hopefully its Nids like the IOS computer game

Thachng wrote:
Hopefully its Nids like the IOS computer game

Said no one ever, except you.

We want 'Stealer Cults. We want our Hybrids and our Brood Brothers back. We want Genestealer Magi to make their return. We want a big happy Patriach on a great big throne.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

Thachng wrote:
Hopefully its Nids like the IOS computer game

Said no one ever, except you.

We want 'Stealer Cults. We want our Hybrids and our Brood Brothers back. We want Genestealer Magi to make their return. We want a big happy Patriach on a great big throne.

IF, IF, IF, Genestealer cults happen I have a sneaking suspicion it will be a box with 10 chaos cultists and 10 genestealers...

But we shall see...

Cause yeah, the old GS cults were some of the most characterful models GW has made.

I just hope FFG will be able to do an RPG supplement with them, I'd love to see some new art and fluff.

 AegisGrimm wrote:
While boardgames are awesome in their own right, if they can all be used in 40k, why not just skip the hassle and release them as boxed units instead of in a $100+ game? All that hassle for Betrayal at Calth when 10-20 pecemt will realistically play the game, rather than use them all together for a 30k army.

The Deathwatch could be as simple as an upgrade pack like it was ages ago, and a genestealer cult box set of some (10-12) brothers and a Magus would be great, like the cultists from Dark Vengeance.

Although I shouldn't complain at all, every box set from GW always gets parted out cheaply on Ebay, for cheaper than a GW box set of the same would be, like the 8 DV Chosen that regularly go for 10 bucks or less, so boxed sets give the best of both worlds.

Watching Warhammer TV's play through vid convinced me it was a decent game.
Got it tonight and everything from the minis to the rules and components is very nice stuff.
I'd put it in the league with Space Hulk. Looking more forward to playing the boardgame than the building/painting stuff.
So I agree that it's the best of both worlds.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

 mjl7atlas wrote:
Back to those plastic SoB's, why will they not release them already!!!???

I heard they were done and when Jes showed them everyone wept from their beauty until finally Kirby rose up and smashed the molds screaming "this fallen world is not worthy of such perfection!'

That's what I heard.

Thats a shame as they need their righteous fire to lay waste to all these foul xenos armies running amok. Really hope there is going to be a new codex and miniatures. Also hope they make acts of Faith interesting and not generic.

We should probably stick to what this thread's actually about now, yes?

And again, I've heard this is definitely coming, and that the miniatures are amazing!

 Alpharius wrote:
We should probably stick to what this thread's actually about now, yes?

And again, I've heard this is definitely coming, and that the miniatures are amazing!

drool. This is really exciting

 Alpharius wrote:
We should probably stick to what this thread's actually about now, yes?

And again, I've heard this is definitely coming, and that the miniatures are amazing!

It'll be interesting to see how they do the production numbers on this game. The Execution Force game is still in stock, and I don't know if that was intentional or not. Space Hulk sold out very quickly and, again, I'm sure they had wished for a larger run of the game back in 2009 when everyone was scrambling for a copy.

Would be nice to just get the Deathwatch half of the boxed set on eBay or something. I think GS cults are awesome, but I'm an IoM player, and I'd have little use for them or the rest of the box contents.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
I just hope FFG will be able to do an RPG supplement with them, I'd love to see some new art and fluff.

Yeah... once GW brings Genestealer Cults back (or if they bring them back) the floodgates just open for Dark Heresy and Deathwatch. Man. Can't wait for that!!!

 Alpharius wrote:
We should probably stick to what this thread's actually about now, yes?

And again, I've heard this is definitely coming, and that the miniatures are amazing!

can't wait!!!

i still have all the original metals, including the Patriarch on throne, and Rough Rider hybrids, but new plastics would be amazing...
more variety for Deathwatch Marines can only be a good thing, too...
the metal bits are looking a bit dinky, thanks to the scale creep over the last few years...

i hope we see this by March...
it would be a nice birthday present...

cheers
jah

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

Thachng wrote:
Hopefully its Nids like the IOS computer game

Said no one ever, except you.

We want 'Stealer Cults. We want our Hybrids and our Brood Brothers back. We want Genestealer Magi to make their return. We want a big happy Patriach on a great big throne.

We want fething limousines!

I would buy a couple of boxes for lovely new 'stealer cults in a heartbeat.

The GS cult was my favourite army back in second edition. I believe GW could do some fantastic models of Patriarch, Magus and hybrids.

Plus FW could do a limo range! Haha

The miniatures are amazing line is hilarious. Like no $+!? Sherlock. Every 40K release has amazing looking models that only get better. Why people need reminded gw's money maker is gonna have top quality models is beyond me

Well they simply threw some very elderly Chaos models in with the nice new plastic assassins for FE.

A lot of folks weren't particularly impressed by that.

 Souleater wrote:
Well they simply threw some very elderly Chaos models in with the nice new plastic assassins for FE.

A lot of folks weren't particularly impressed by that.

The Cultists are still relatively new and they made up the bulk of Execution Force.
The only arguably "old" models in there were the 3 monopose Chaos Marines(which are like $8 for 3) and the Chaos Marine Terminator Lord.

From my understanding, most people "weren't particularly impressed by that" because it was not what they expected/wanted--a boxed set with a unique character model for the CSM side like Deathstorm/Stormclaw or a game like Space Hulk where every model in it was unique and new.

If there's a Deathwatch game coming, there is very little in the Tyranids range right now that would fit. I could see them including a few sets of Genestealers, the plastic Genestealer Broodlord from Deathstorm, and possibly some kind of unique Cultist models that are only in the boxed game for the time being.

That is of course assuming that it's meant to be "Genestealer Cults" and not something which has shown up in a lot of material, which is Deathwatch Kill-Teams going after Vanguard organisms.
If that's the case? I would expect to see Genestealers, Broodlord, and a Lictor or two.

If they were going to make a new board game with a Genestealer Cult why wouldn't they remake Deathwing for Space Hulk 3rd/4th edition?

Because 'expansions' always sell less well than base games,

it makes more commercial sense to go for a stand alone product as that means you can sell to the whole world rather than just those who (still) own the original game

(and because a Broodlord Pimpmobile would not fit into a game of Spacehulk and I still hope for an official mini)

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
Because 'expansions' always sell less well than base games,

it makes more commercial sense to go for a stand alone product as that means you can sell to the whole world rather than just those who (still) own the original game

(and because a Broodlord Pimpmobile would not fit into a game of Spacehulk and I still hope for an official mini)

I really hope for Cadillac. I'm honestly not sure what they will do though. I didn't expect the spider tank. Don't think anybody did.


Regarding SoB, from what I've heard they are dead in the water. Nobody, literally Nobody is willing to champion them. They think they can get far more sales out of Space Marines by altering a kit than actually releasing an army they could get a lot of flak for.

Why would they get flak for Sisters?

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
Why would they get flak for Sisters?

The entire look and superficial premise of the army is a combination of porn tropes. Super hot angry nuns who look like they're dressed in leather out to punish all the naughty boys? Oh , and they also like to cause pain to themselves too. They're scifi bdsm hot nun dominatrixes. I have no righteous indignation issue with the design but the inspiration is obvious to most folks encountering it (despite (GW's chapterhouse claim of all 100% "original" inspiration free content). With GW shying away from all things related to sex (like Slaneesh in AOS), I wouldn't be surprised about extending that to SOB...I don't agree but I'm not surprised.

That's only what they turned into. They were perfectly cool back in 2nd edition, incidently right alongside Genestealer Cults.