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Oighear? Is that a place name?Has quite a retro vibe.

 Alpharius wrote:
The more they sow havoc and reap discord in the name of Chaos, the bigger they get!

Their price goes up too, it seems.

Kislev the next generation t'would seem.

 ImAGeek wrote:

 Kilkrazy wrote:
They actually aren't much larger than the models they replace.

They haven't replaced any models.

They will.

 reds8n wrote:
Kislev the next generation t'would seem.

Now that's very interesting!

GW don't give people a lot of lead time to prepare for these campaign days.

Especially this close to Christmas.

 Kilkrazy wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:

 Kilkrazy wrote:
They actually aren't much larger than the models they replace.

They haven't replaced any models.

They will.

What's your reasoning behind that? The Varanguard in the fluff are protagonists in a short story compilation, mighty Lords of Chaos that have been called individually by Archaon... sort of like Nagash's Mortarchs. why would they replace Chaos Knights?

My reasoning is that GW periodically upgrade kits with a new, more expensive version and retire the older version.

For example, most of the Tau infantry (Fire Warriors, Pathfinders, Stealth Suits and Broadside suits) have been upgraded and replaced over the years.

Those are all still the same units, just with upgraded kits. The Varanguard are entirely new.

 Kilkrazy wrote:
My reasoning is that GW periodically upgrade kits with a new, more expensive version and retire the older version.

For example, most of the Tau infantry (Fire Warriors, Pathfinders, Stealth Suits and Broadside suits) have been upgraded and replaced over the years.

Varanguard are their own unit, not just new chaos Knights. Plus both are up on the webstore now, if they were replacing Knights, they'd be gone by now.

Then these new kits are only slightly larger than the very similar Chaos Knights they don't replace, that have a different set of rules and are much cheaper.

Chaos Knights are part of the new Tzeentch web bundle, as well. I doubt the Chaos Knights get a new model anytime soon, but Varanguard are clearly not a replacement in the literal sense for them right now.

 reds8n wrote:

The Trials of the Oighear Campaign Day

Going to be there myself, if any other Dakkanauts will be present!

Going to be there myself, if any other Dakkanauts will be present!

Gave up on that idea, too many tasks to get out of at short notice this close to xmas. Was looking at the February event, but that is doubles and a full weekend.

MongooseMatt wrote:

 reds8n wrote:

The Trials of the Oighear Campaign Day

Going to be there myself, if any other Dakkanauts will be present!

I have to say, if I lived in Nottingham I'd probably be all over the game and these events. It does look like they run them remarkably well at WHW!

I'd like to as well, but the short notice would make it tough! As an aside, I wonder how many unpainted/unfinished armies get played at WMW? I think the main reason I'd go, however, is to try to get a better sense of what GW is trying to do because in the giant game of telephone we play here on the internet, the message often gets completely garbled. It would be really cool to see how all this stuff looks and works in its "natural habitat" so to speak.

 Manchu wrote:
As an aside, I wonder how many unpainted/unfinished armies get played at WMW?.

In these events, none - it is a requirement to bring painted armies.

MongooseMatt wrote:

 Manchu wrote:
As an aside, I wonder how many unpainted/unfinished armies get played at WMW?.

In these events, none - it is a requirement to bring painted armies.

Then I definitely would not be attending! I'd need a couple months advance notice at least to get my stuff in order.

 Manchu wrote:

MongooseMatt wrote:

 Manchu wrote:
As an aside, I wonder how many unpainted/unfinished armies get played at WMW?.

In these events, none - it is a requirement to bring painted armies.

Then I definitely would not be attending! I'd need a couple months advance notice at least to get my stuff in order.

Actually, it is not a requirement for this event;

Your models do not need to be fully painted for this event, but there will be some
Campaign bonuses available for those players who manage to fully paint and base
their force.

So, bonus if you manage to get all painted but you will not be out because you didn't succeed to paint everything in time. I say, if you can go here but are not sure you will have all the colors on your miniatures in time, you can still go. It's a good opportunity to play a narrative event with like-minded people. And I don't believe they would be mocking you for not having enough time.

Well, maybe just a few jokes about how this white schema is well done for the ice theme.

 Manchu wrote:
Oighear? Is that a place name?

Spoiler:

Has quite a retro vibe.

Totally Tsarina Katarin, the Ice Queen.

K...Kislev?

Seems so...normal and out of place in this new world of re-forgable magic knights!

I like the varanguard but the are bloody expensive Just like the New archaon model, it is a very good model but bit expensive, I wonder when the brink something else instead of chaos or sigmar thingies,

 LeCacty wrote:
K...Kislev?

It's just an old artwork they used for their winter/ice themed campaign.

Kislev is long dead and buried. The Tsarin as well. You can also see in the painted miniatures at the end of the PDF that she's not even here as "show off". So, don't get your hopes too high up.

But it would be totally cool if a player came with the actual miniature for Katarina and her Kislev old guard.

reds8n wrote: Kislev the next generation t'would seem.

Nope. What Sarouan said.

The Oighear (wasn't he on the X-Factor a while back?) aren't Kislev. They're shapeshifters apparently, so they can be anything, and thus they're not anything. They have no culture, no defining traits, other than they have a big fight over a blank snowy wasteland once every thousand years. I assume that in the meantime, they're occupied by having smaller fights over a blank snowy wasteland.

Are you beckoned into the epic, meaningful adventures yet?

It's some thrown together text to justify a campaign weekend, way to take it too seriously...

 Sarouan wrote:

 LeCacty wrote:
K...Kislev?

It's just an old artwork they used for their winter/ice themed campaign.

Kislev is long dead and buried. The Tsarin as well. You can also see in the painted miniatures at the end of the PDF that she's not even here as "show off". So, don't get your hopes too high up.

 Vermis wrote:
The Oighear (wasn't he on the X-Factor a while back?) aren't Kislev. They're shapeshifters apparently, so they can be anything, and thus they're not anything. They have no culture, no defining traits, other than they have a big fight over a blank snowy wasteland once every thousand years. I assume that in the meantime, they're occupied by having smaller fights over a blank snowy wasteland.

Are you beckoned into the epic, meaningful adventures yet?

The only interesting thing to come out of AoS is a lie?

 Albertorius wrote:

 McNinja wrote:
Those chaos varanguard knights are absolutely fething perfect for a death knight in a D&D campaign I'm running. fething GW and their cool models.

Except for the fact that I believe it would probably look absurdly oversized besides most\all minis regularly used for D&D, I suspect.

Unless you're talking about an ogre death knight or something, of course.

They may be large for a normal death knight, but I'd rather have a large awesome model to represent an epic battle than a small gakky model from 2001, which is what every other death knight model looks like.

 Mymearan wrote:
It's some thrown together text to justify a campaign weekend, way to take it too seriously...

My thoughts exactly!

100$ for 3 knights that look chaotic.
or
33$ for 5 Knights that look chaotic.

I have to say no to that purchase.

In my opinion any one with a mere shred of talent can easily convert or greenstuff the old knights and make a completely unique to them knight.