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 Fayric wrote:

 wuestenfux wrote:
Why there are no 40k rules for the Gaunt Summoner?

Because they are described as daemons, It would be nice to see them for 40k as well.
Was the exalted deathbringer a daemon?

Who knows, they made the khorne daemon kin book to ride on the new blood thirster release, perhaps this model could finaly get us that tzeench daemon kin book

Pardon my ignorance but I thought it was specifically Chaos Daemons that could be used in Fantasy and 40k?

Yup.they're the only ones that crossover both systems. Exalted deathbringer is not a daemon. He's a champion with mutations.

You would have thought we'd be seeing a few more Fyre Slayers running around this thread now! Not long left, surely.

Who says there even are any more?

Sad Panda said January would be Fyre Slayers :-)

I think we can atleast expect 3 kits (with the leaked totem bearer being 1 of them), a battletome and a limited edition. Maybe a painting guide and a novel too.

 angelofvengeance wrote:
Yup.they're the only ones that crossover both systems. Exalted deathbringer is not a daemon. He's a champion with mutations.

So if Gaunt Summoner is a daemon then why can't he be used in 40k?

 roddie wrote:


Pardon my ignorance but I thought it was specifically Chaos Daemons that could be used in Fantasy and 40k?

But not everything with a Daemon rule crosses over? There're no CSM Possessed or Eldar Avatars in Fantasy/AoS either. Nor do FW's Heresy-Daemons have Fantasy/AoS-rules, as far as I know.

And AoS also made all the Lizardmen Daemons, did it not (without crossing them over to 40K).

So I think it would only be Daemons specific to the Chaos Daemons Codex/Armybook, not the odd Daemons found in other Codexes (e.g. Avatar in Codex Eldar) or Armybooks (e.g. Gaunt Summoner in the Everchosen-book).

The Gaunt Summoner also has the MORTAL keyword, for what it's worth. Besides, they're described as answering directly to Archaon, and HE doesn't cross over to 40k, either.

If it's a cool model can it cross over as a proxy for some existing unit in 40K?

Can Tzeentch heralds ride disks in 40K?

 Red_Zeke wrote:
Can Tzeentch heralds ride disks in 40K?

Yeah

I love how there's this little debate about whether or not the model can be used in 40k, when it's clearly just a Tzeentch daemon/sorcerer/champion and could easily fit in a CSM or daemons army if you really fething wanted it to. Nothing about this model makes it unique to the AoS universe at all, at least not any more than any of the dozens of other daemon models that have been released.

It's just a sorcerer on a disk at the end of the day, one that's "fancier" than normal and costs twice as much.

 Sidstyler wrote:
I love how there's this little debate about whether or not the model can be used in 40k, when it's clearly just a Tzeentch daemon/sorcerer/champion and could easily fit in a CSM or daemons army if you really fething wanted it to. Nothing about this model makes it unique to the AoS universe at all, at least not any more than any of the dozens of other daemon models that have been released.

It's just a sorcerer on a disk at the end of the day, one that's "fancier" than normal and costs twice as much.

Humm that kind of applies to most miniatures if you think about it... even the mighty glottkin can be just a guo and the other brothers just a lord and sorcerer.
Most miniatures these days can be used/ converted to other games or systems if you wanted too.

 Sidstyler wrote:
I love how there's this little debate about whether or not the model can be used in 40k, when it's clearly just a Tzeentch daemon/sorcerer/champion and could easily fit in a CSM or daemons army if you really fething wanted it to. Nothing about this model makes it unique to the AoS universe at all, at least not any more than any of the dozens of other daemon models that have been released.

It's just a sorcerer on a disk at the end of the day, one that's "fancier" than normal and costs twice as much.

Well, for me personally, I just read the first sentences of description on GWs site when it came out, and saw it was not a single specific character, and that they were described as daemons.
Then I asked if or when it ought to be available as a 40k daemons unit.

Now ofcourse, I have read the full description that there is only 9 of them and all blindly devoted to Archaon, so I consider the debate over and done.
And I have no doubt this model will find a home in many 40k daemon armies.

 NAVARRO wrote:

 Sidstyler wrote:
I love how there's this little debate about whether or not the model can be used in 40k, when it's clearly just a Tzeentch daemon/sorcerer/champion and could easily fit in a CSM or daemons army if you really fething wanted it to. Nothing about this model makes it unique to the AoS universe at all, at least not any more than any of the dozens of other daemon models that have been released.

It's just a sorcerer on a disk at the end of the day, one that's "fancier" than normal and costs twice as much.

Humm that kind of applies to most miniatures if you think about it... even the mighty glottkin can be just a guo and the other brothers just a lord and sorcerer.
Most miniatures these days can be used/ converted to other games or systems if you wanted too.

Whilst true, the Gaunt Summoner already looks the part of a Herald of Tzeenth on Disc, no conversion required at all there. And frankly looks much better than the fine cast version.

 Fayric wrote:
all blindly devoted to Archaon

Are you dismissing them merely because they have no eyes on their faces? Low blow sir, they can see perfectly well with their helm-eyes, thank you very much.

40k and AoS demons are not the same anymore.. ever since the trash that passes as AoS fluff decided to make Slaanesh "overeat on souls.. and be captured by the elven wonder twins
" ...

Slaanesh's Daemons are still around and kicking.

Slaanesh is just not contributing to the shenanigans and tomfoolery afoot.

Gimgamgoo wrote:

Sword Of Caliban wrote:
That's like saying 'why are there no AOS rules for a Land Raider'......

Give it time.... those Sigmarines need something to travel in. Although it would need a repackage and price increase first.

And a name.

A Plane Reaver.

A Stormplane Deathmurderbloodhammerskullsreaver.

455_PWR wrote:Just got my Archaon and assembled him....

Now I know why he costs over $100!! (Got him for 128 on ebay). He is HUGE. He makes an imperial knight look small. Very cool kit, gws paint job doesn't do it justice. I've never owned another gw model with a base of this size, height, or shear magnatude.

He makes the bloodthirster look very small.

Kudos gw!

Did you just give GW kudos for making a model big, and nothing else?

By that metric, the Statue of Liberty kicks all the sand in Archaon's face, in terms of it's quality as a gaming mini.

@Vermis - I saw the model (in the box) at the store. It really is a massive model.

Of course, that's not the only criteria for a model, and personally, I don't like it -- but I can count the Chaos kits that I have liked through the years on the fingers of one hand. But, if you're into the Everchosen and the whole Chaos thing, it's a well-designed model with lots of busy chaos-y detail, and of course, bigger model = more expensive. 455_PWR did mention that he thought it was a very cool kit

*shakes the AoS N&R tree*

Any awesome rumour fruit yet?! :(

 angelofvengeance wrote:
*shakes the AoS N&R tree*

Any awesome rumour fruit yet?! :(

Can't remember where I saw it, but someone mentioned the latest WD's hint is about ur-gold, so sounds like duardin after the starter boxes release.

coldgaming wrote:

Can't remember where I saw it, but someone mentioned the latest WD's hint is about ur-gold, so sounds like duardin after the starter boxes release.

U R gold? Is that what GW thinks about its customers now?

Ur-gold was also mentioned in the Age of Sigmar Book.

http://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Warhammer-Age-of-Sigmar-Book-ENG

Probably that dwarf character sprue that we saw before. That was I recall that was a nice axe.

Sad Panda confirmed Fyre Slayers for January. Leaked photos should hopefully start coming in soon :-)

 Bottle wrote:
Sad Panda confirmed Fyre Slayers for January. Leaked photos should hopefully start coming in soon :-)

Hopefully. The lack of News or Rumors is starting bog this place down.

 NAVARRO wrote:

 Sidstyler wrote:
I love how there's this little debate about whether or not the model can be used in 40k, when it's clearly just a Tzeentch daemon/sorcerer/champion and could easily fit in a CSM or daemons army if you really fething wanted it to. Nothing about this model makes it unique to the AoS universe at all, at least not any more than any of the dozens of other daemon models that have been released.

It's just a sorcerer on a disk at the end of the day, one that's "fancier" than normal and costs twice as much.

Humm that kind of applies to most miniatures if you think about it... even the mighty glottkin can be just a guo and the other brothers just a lord and sorcerer.
Most miniatures these days can be used/ converted to other games or systems if you wanted too.

Good Deity above, Navarro!

Do you mean to say that GW figures are not jewel-like objects of magic and wonder?

That's HERESY!!!!!

 Kilkrazy wrote:

 NAVARRO wrote:

 Sidstyler wrote:
I love how there's this little debate about whether or not the model can be used in 40k, when it's clearly just a Tzeentch daemon/sorcerer/champion and could easily fit in a CSM or daemons army if you really fething wanted it to. Nothing about this model makes it unique to the AoS universe at all, at least not any more than any of the dozens of other daemon models that have been released.

It's just a sorcerer on a disk at the end of the day, one that's "fancier" than normal and costs twice as much.

Humm that kind of applies to most miniatures if you think about it... even the mighty glottkin can be just a guo and the other brothers just a lord and sorcerer.
Most miniatures these days can be used/ converted to other games or systems if you wanted too.

Good Deity above, Navarro!

Do you mean to say that GW figures are not jewel-like objects of magic and wonder?

That's HERESY!!!!!

How does that comment add to the discussion? It's sarcastic and totally unnecessary regarding the topic of rumors or the miniatures discussed. I feel like a mod should delete it... oh wait.....

I think he was kidding with Navarro / not serious (as we all know - Navarro's awesome )

Since there is no news to discuss, probably best to just let this thread lie until the inevitable dwarf spoilers are leaked... can't be long now! But nothing to be gained by discussing with a lack of information till then.