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I know I'm late to the party, but damn some elbows on those dwarves would be nice.

these guys could have been cool, but they are horribly monoposed. Disapointing effort form GW. Not as bad as the statuesque black guard, but not nearly worth the price they are asking for. The character is really cool though, he has a nice chaos dwarf vibe.

They're up on the Australian store now too, $70 for 5 Hearthguard, $100 for 10 Vulkite's and $50 for the Runemaster (which is, just to be clear, a monopose, single small sprue model).

I want metal back, somehow it managed to be cheaper

ya well i bought skarbrand which is 30$ more for the exact same size and detail spru. They price them based on how many will sell. So they expect few sales.

Those heads rock. But $14 is too much to to pay for a 28mm head.

OgreChubbs wrote:
ya well i bought skarbrand which is 30$ more for the exact same size and detail spru. They price them based on how many will sell. So they expect few sales.

Skarbrand? Skarbrand is huge, you must be thinking of something else?

10 (essentially) monopose Dorfs for AUD$100.

One-hundred dollars!

Just wait for the fire sale I mean "start collecting" bundle

On a positive note, looking at the sprues for the kits the heads are fully designed separately from the helmet parts so they are fairly straightforward to use for conversions; a bit of creative use of green stuff or even some of the mohawks from the AoW kit and these can be easily built without the helmets which is a huge plus for me

They look nice to me individually, but the army looks flat, even with the salamander ...

I might have bought a few if they were decently priced, but as it is, not a single item :(

In 2010 i spent like 300€ on GW product, about 100€ in 2015, seems like it will be even less in 2016

Wow If I lived in New Zealand there would be no incentive to buy the new Slayers over some of the Ironbreakers/irondrakes or Hammerers/Longbeards. Double the price in comparison for kits that came out January 2014 is ridiculous!?

I don't think the price discrepancy is going to be as crazy in the UK with the Hearthguard coming in £5 cheaper than the Dwarf kits (£25 vs £30) and the Bezerkers coming in a £5 more expensive right (£35)?

Unless I read the rumoured pricing wrong!

Are these guys a completely new army/faction for AoS unrelated to Dwarfs (Duardin)?
Sort of like Harlequins in 40k? (Sure harlies are eldar as a faction/race but they are a stand alone army).

 Ratius wrote:
Are these guys a completely new army/faction for AoS unrelated to Dwarfs (Duardin)?
Sort of like Harlequins in 40k? (Sure harlies are eldar as a faction/race but they are a stand alone army).

Yes and no.

AoS, since the re-launch, never had a strict 1 book=1 faction split the way 40K used to have (and since abandoned).

AoS has the broad, largely "background" split into Order, Chaos, Destruction, Death serving as umbrella for lots of battletomes, White Dwarf warscrolls, online exclusives and whatever else they want to come up with.

Bloodbound and Archaon are separate Battletomes, but clearly both "Chaos", and frequently shown "as one army".

And even in 40K, things aren't clear-cut anymore. People consider Skitarii and CM as "one army/faction", but "Harlequins" increasingly as separate thing for example.

Looking at the videos these are really good!

My biggest beef with multipart plastics is that usually the junction between the shoulder and the arms is most of the times just a straight cut which is particularly visible on naked torsos/arms, they have changed things on the savage orcs kits were the shoulders and torsos join in a much smoother way but that does compromise somewhat the diversity of the poses available. They have replicated the same on these Duardin and these kits are quite interesting from a modelling/design point of view.

Some may want 1000 possible pose variants with the sprues but lets not forget that its probably going to look bad joint wise... I rather have something in the same style as the savage orc kit and since these are plastic I can easily cut and shave the bits I want to make the extra 900 poses if I'm not totally satisfied with the 100 ones supplied.

A very strong release from GW in therms of multipart plastic for AoS and guess what these actually look FUN to paint.

Now... can you say that these are better than the old metal Slayers? No. For me the old ones have the oldschool charm and fully use the advantages of the single piece metal casting ( which I LOVE). Are these ones inferior? No! they are just different and offer a good option for any dwarf fan. I would be inclined to collect both. One for charisma sake and the other for kitbashing.

I don't think that the problem is limited poses. It's that the ones you get are pretty wonky.

The dudes with doubehanded weapons work IMO even if they would look very similar and quite boring if you use more than one box of 5.

The dudes with two axes have about half of them looking very unnatural in their poses with upper and lowed bodies not really matching.

Decided to go ahead and get the new Lizardman box set. Too good of a savings .. $85 when the carnosaur alone is $100, and I always waned to get some cold one riders too. I have the old metal carnosaur though, so I'm gonna build this one as a troglodon. My army is more skinky anyway.

 Necros wrote:
I always waned to get some cold one riders too.

Really?! Not the dark elf ones?!?! The lizardmen ones?!?one?!

The dark elf cold ones look way better, but there's no sauruses included with them

lol - GW seems well aware that no one would buy the Lizardmen cold one riders on their own - they always stick them in the box sets, devaluing them greatly.

To be fair I'm buying them now and would have without the box. But that's because Kings of war is awesome not because of gw.

 Hulksmash wrote:
To be fair I'm buying them now and would have without the box. But that's because Kings of war is awesome not because of gw.

Ever hear this joke? "A vegan, a crossfitter, and a Kings of War player walk into a bar. I know because they told everybody about it within two minutes."

Yeah, I'm using em all for KOW too. I'm gonna keep the roundy bases though cuz they look better for skirmish games and I can just use movement trays for kow

 Sqorgar wrote:

 Hulksmash wrote:
To be fair I'm buying them now and would have without the box. But that's because Kings of war is awesome not because of gw.

Ever hear this joke? "A vegan, a crossfitter, and a Kings of War player walk into a bar. I know because they told everybody about it within two minutes."

Pfft, I'd buy one and use it for both KoW AND Song of Blades and Heroes, so there.

Never AoS, though.

 Sqorgar wrote:

 Hulksmash wrote:
To be fair I'm buying them now and would have without the box. But that's because Kings of war is awesome not because of gw.

Ever hear this joke? "A vegan, a crossfitter, and a Kings of War player walk into a bar. I know because they told everybody about it within two minutes."

Best say that I'm getting the starter Lizardmen deal.
I have a new KoW army to start. (To fight the Abyssal one I'm getting from Mantic)

Not so sure why the white knights get so upset about this. We're buying GW stuff.

As for the new slayers. As I said... Lifeless. Not the pose - they're quite dynamic - but the emotion they're conveying. They're as lifeless as the Sigmarines. Look at their little faces. Emotionless. Their muscles also seem just too squared off and sharp. Very computer like rather than natural - might be because of the paint style though.

How long is it since GW produced a normal human-like face in full?

I've ordered two of the Lizard Men starters, to start an army to play generic Fantasy. I have the KoW rulebook, and HoTT.

My opinion of the FyreSlayers is they are fine for cheap, rank file models in a large army. But they aren't.

I bought the White Dwarf today and I am enjoying this issue. I think I'm 90% set on the Hearthguard and building them with Flamestrike Poleaxes. I too think the Vulkite Bezerkers can look a little clunky in certain poses. I would want to make mine with shields, as the shields are really nice but I wouldn't want to have the shield-in-the-air pose so would likely have to build the box as 2 five man units.

 Sqorgar wrote:

 Hulksmash wrote:
To be fair I'm buying them now and would have without the box. But that's because Kings of war is awesome not because of gw.

Ever hear this joke? "A vegan, a crossfitter, and a Kings of War player walk into a bar. I know because they told everybody about it within two minutes."

It's almost as if KOW substitutes in for WHFB (a ranked fantasy battle game), whereas AOS does not.

 Accolade wrote:

It's almost as if KOW substitutes in for WHFB (a ranked fantasy battle game), whereas AOS does not.

If you saw a man who was dating a woman who looked similar to his dead wife, saying "she's a great substitute" every thirty seconds, in every conversations, would you think that guy legitimately liked this woman, or do you think he might be overcompensating a little? Me thinks the lady doth protest too much.

 Gimgamgoo wrote:

 Sqorgar wrote:

 Hulksmash wrote:
To be fair I'm buying them now and would have without the box. But that's because Kings of war is awesome not because of gw.

Ever hear this joke? "A vegan, a crossfitter, and a Kings of War player walk into a bar. I know because they told everybody about it within two minutes."

Not so sure why the white knights get so upset about this. We're buying GW stuff.

Well, when they are repping for AOS they aren't white knights, they're whyte knights.

No, it's probably just the part where KoW is a much better use for WHFB miniatures than AoS. So what if people want to name other games new releases would be good for.

Like I said, any of these bundles would be great for all the minis you would ever need for amracially-based Song of Blades and Heroes warband, other than the unimpressive undead one, which should have a unit of skeletons instead of the spirit hosts.

Well, when they are repping for AOS they aren't white knights, they're whyte knights.

Hmm...Not enough y's in the name. I prefer Whyte Knyghts. GW should really branch out into the use of superfluous umlauts, or the joined AE like in Aeon Flux that I don't know how to type, just for variety.