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Size comparison makes them look pretty small:

Relative to AoS models. The point is how large are they relative to existing WHF dwarfs & humans.

Did Nagash et al. get a price increase to go with their new boxes?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Did Nagash et al. get a price increase to go with their new boxes?

Oddly enough, both the square and round based models are still up on the New Zealand web store. Looks like there is no price increase.

 Ghaz wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Did Nagash et al. get a price increase to go with their new boxes?

Oddly enough, both the square and round based models are still up on the New Zealand web store. Looks like there is no price increase.

There haven't been any price increases so far, no reason they would start now really.

Yep all the reboxing is the same price (or cheaper for AoS players as we no longer have to buy seperate circle bases :-p).

If you assemble the Magmadroth with the Runefather or Runeson you can actually make two foot characters too, as the riding legs for the father/son are different to the standing legs (kit comes with two 32mm bases for this too)!

I really hope we'll get some Vampire Counts sourcebooks soon, seems like everything is shaping up for one. Maybe a battletome or maybe the next realm gate war book?

I'm pretty sure Sad Panda said Spacewolves for Feb (although there doesn't seem to be any active rumor mill for it?) so maybe the next big AoS release will come in March? Suits me :-)

85€ for the monster?

Why?

it is notlarger than any other monster, but 50% more expensive?

The runes on the skins are laughably bad.

 Bottle wrote:


I really hope we'll get some Vampire Counts sourcebooks soon, seems like everything is shaping up for one. Maybe a battletome or maybe the next realm gate war book?

I'm pretty sure Sad Panda said Spacewolves for Feb (although there doesn't seem to be any active rumor mill for it?) so maybe the next big AoS release will come in March? Suits me :-)

Undead sounds like a likely next release for AoS.
Some gothic over the top crypts and mausoleum scenery would also be nice for any game system.

I dont expect SW to get a huge update. As a space wolf player, I dont really feel anything is lacking in the model range.
A codex with no new models would not be too dissapointing or unexpected. (A neat Iron Priest on a thunder wolf would be appreciated, but we probably just get the Crom Dragongaze model blistered.)

According to this picture that I found on Twitter, the new lads are not that much bigger than the older models.

https://twitter.com/warhammergc/status/688286291419504641

Those are old OLD models though. The 2013 dwarfs should be as big as the AoS ones judging from that pic.

The size looks perfect sized for a heroic dwarf.

The lizard kits allows you to make lizard plus its rider and extra 2 heroes on foot miniatures?

 Mymearan wrote:
Those are old OLD models though. The 2013 dwarfs should be as big as the AoS ones judging from that pic.

So the scale is fine, as long as you don't mind scale creep?

Joyboozer wrote:

 Mymearan wrote:
Those are old OLD models though. The 2013 dwarfs should be as big as the AoS ones judging from that pic.

So the scale is fine, as long as you don't mind scale creep?

Scale has been changing for at least a decade or so at GW so yeah. Funny thing is the gobbos got smaller!

In the top right corner what is that scenery piece? Looks sort of like a tree on fire but is standing on a base with runes inscribed on it? Custom, old or something in the pipeline?

 NAVARRO wrote:

Joyboozer wrote:

 Mymearan wrote:
Those are old OLD models though. The 2013 dwarfs should be as big as the AoS ones judging from that pic.

So the scale is fine, as long as you don't mind scale creep?

Scale has been changing for at least a decade or so at GW so yeah. Funny thing is the gobbos got smaller!

The problem is which things have been changing - the new slayers look to be about the same height as a lot of human models. Not particularly "dwarf"-like.

Whatever, if GW want to limit the number of people who're interested in their models, that's their business.

Its a style option like any other mate.

I loved rackham bigger miniatures the style was quite different ( for example uraken gobbos were almost chibi headed scale) then you have more accurate scaling on Red box stuff that look like small people in comparison with other ranges and so forth.
There is a market tendency for 32mm or bigger these days and thats quite obvious.

You may say that GW was more of an accident that a deliberated stylistic choice and that is debatable but the market scaling in general is getting bigger?

 NAVARRO wrote:
The size looks perfect sized for a heroic dwarf.

The lizard kits allows you to make lizard plus its rider and extra 2 heroes on foot miniatures?

You get one Runesmiter (the priest) and one riding Runefather/son and one foot Runefather/son. If you put the riding Runefather/son on the Magmadroth it leaves you with two foot heroes, putting the Runesmiter on the Magmadroth leaves you with only one foot hero (and a spare rider).



Regarding scale, these Duardin will look fine alongside Empire humans in my opinion. I'll post some comparison pics when my Bezerkers arrive (Wednesday) :-)

 Ratius wrote:


In the top right corner what is that scenery piece? Looks sort of like a tree on fire but is standing on a base with runes inscribed on it? Custom, old or something in the pipeline?

The lava tree thing is the plasma leaking from the bottom of the Realmgate (though it has been extended a bit), and the base looks like the Dragonfate Dais base - it is also covered in runes and has a little pit in the middle for blood. So it looks like they combined two scenery kits to create it. Just my guess though.

The last two clam packs from the iTunes preview. Not keen on the grim wrath guy, but I think the battle smith is the pick of the cures fyreslayer releases.

As other posters have said before, I would have preferred the Grimwrath Bezerkers to be a unit rather than another Hero. Maybe a unit that was standard size 3 like the Sigmarine retributors.

It seems the Fyreslayers have a massive abundance of Heroes. The range ends up as follows:

- 3 Heroes on a monster
- 6 Heroes on foot
- 3 units

 Bottle wrote:
As other posters have said before, I would have preferred the Grimwrath Bezerkers to be a unit rather than another Hero. Maybe a unit that was standard size 3 like the Sigmarine retributors.

The Stormcast Retributors are the only version of the Paladins that have a minimum unit size of 3.

It seems the Fyreslayers have a massive abundance of Heroes. The range ends up as follows:

- 3 Heroes on a monster
- 6 Heroes on foot

Fyreslayers have as many Heroes as the Stormcast Eternals(or realistically, many of the pre-AOS armies) do.
Lord Celestant, Lord Celestant on Dracoth, Knight-Venator, Knight-Azyros, Knight-Heraldor, Knight-Vexillor, Celestant-Prime, Lord-Castellant, and Lord-Relictor--8 heroes on foot and one mounted.

- 3 units

So?

Of those 3 units, you have 2 of them with fairly dramatic differences in how they can be equipped.
Vulkite Berzerkers with their 2x Fyresteel Handaxes or Fyresteel Handaxe/War-Pick and Bladed Slingshield--additionally the option for Fyresteel Throwing Axes.
Hearthguard Berzerkers with their option for Berzerker Broadxes or Flamestrike Poleaxes.

In ye olden times of WHFB, those would likely have been entirely different unit entries rather than just contained within. There was a LOT of bloat when it came to things like that.

Wow, lighten up and lose some of the salt. I'm saying the Fyreslayers are a little top heavy with heroes and it would have been nice to have an extra unit rather than another hero.

It's similar to the Khorne releases as well. Seems like a heavy emphasis on characters in all of the AoS new armies.

 Bottle wrote:
Wow, lighten up and lose some of the salt.

Sorry, were you standing next to me when I composed my message?

Don't presume to know my state of emotion or anything of that nature when replying to me. You made a post, I replied. Reply to the content rather than your perceived assumptions of attitude.

I'm saying the Fyreslayers are a little top heavy with heroes and it would have been nice to have an extra unit rather than another hero.

And I'm saying that the game has always been "a little top heavy with heroes" and that many of the later armies/often updated armies became bloated with unit options seemingly to fulfill some quota that the developers were being given for books to have an equal-ish number of units.

Dark Elves, for example, went from 13 different unit options to 20 different unit options when the book was updated to include the Sisters of Slaughter, Bloodwrack Shrine and Bloodwrack Medusae(which remember is its own option by itself as well as for the Shrine), the Kharibdyss, Doomfire Warlocks, and the Bleakswords.
And just for fun, they went from 11 total Heroes/Lords options to 15 total Heroes/Lords options--13 if you discount Kouran Darkhand and Tullaris Dreadbringer(both present in the previous book as unit-specific upgrade characters for Black Guard and Executioners respectively).

That's a jump of 7 unit types, two of which(Darkspears and Bleakswords) were quite literally the same profile before(Dark Elf Warriors had Spears, Hand Weapons, and Shields), in the course of a single book.

Did I missed something? There appears to be no limited edition this time.

Yes, no limited Edition.

GW posted a new clip, has the new Fyreslayer soundtrack on it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSUW-Z_Cnc0

I would have been totally pysched for this as a release had it been under the WHFB game would have spent hundreds....under AoS...I have zero interest

 Seneca wrote:
Did I missed something? There appears to be no limited edition this time.

Maybe they extrapolated the trend of other AoS limited editions. Stormcast and Bloodbound sold out only recently while Seraphon still has collector's editions available. GW is only into short-term thinking, so a limited edition that takes more than a month of sell out is probably a no-go for them. Plus such a thing adds cracks in the illusion of their products being absolutely amazing and highly desirable, so can't have that.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Bottle wrote:
Wow, lighten up and lose some of the salt.

Sorry, were you standing next to me when I composed my message?

Don't presume to know my state of emotion or anything of that nature when replying to me. You made a post, I replied. Reply to the content rather than your perceived assumptions of attitude.

Lol, why are you so hostile? I'm sorry if you're going through an emotional state, dude. You just come across so salty and for no reason at all.

I would like another unit in the Fyreslayer army. I guess you don't want another unit for whatever reason?