Switch Theme:

A year with no FAQs or Erratas on 40K or any other system.  [RSS] Share on facebook Share on Twitter Submit to Reddit
»
Author Message
Advert


Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you:
  • No adverts like this in the forums anymore.
  • Times and dates in your local timezone.
  • Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance.
  • Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely.
  • Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net.
If you are already a member then feel free to login now.




Made in gb
Infiltrating Broodlord




The Faye

We're in December now and so by the end of the month we will have gone a year with out a single errata or answer to any questions on anything from Games Workshop.

Doesn't really give off a good impression does it?

Is it possible GW has stopped supporting the game in providing updates that way?

Maybe they think it would be better to release new rulebook with amendments and call it 7.1 edition?

We love what we love. Reason does not enter into it. In many ways, unwise love is the truest love. Anyone can love a thing because. That's as easy as putting a penny in your pocket. But to love something despite. To know the flaws and love them too. That is rare and pure and perfect.

Chaos Knights: 2000 PTS
Thousand Sons: 2000 PTS - In Progress
Tyranids: 2000 PTS
Adeptus Mechanicus: 2000 PTS
Adeptus Custodes: 2000 PTS - In Progress 
   
Made in us
Stealthy Warhound Titan Princeps




Phoenix, AZ, USA

GW has repeatedly stated over the past few years that they are a models company, not a games company (perhaps because they never bother to read their company's name?). As such, they have no vested interest in supporting Errata or FAQs. All we can do as a community is get over it and workout issues on our own. Thankfully, the interwebz exist!

SJ

“For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world.”
- Ephesians 6:12
 
   
Made in nl
Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator






Hamburg

 jeffersonian000 wrote:
GW has repeatedly stated over the past few years that they are a models company, not a games company (perhaps because they never bother to read their company's name?). As such, they have no vested interest in supporting Errata or FAQs. All we can do as a community is get over it and workout issues on our own. Thankfully, the interwebz exist!

SJ

Indeed, they replaced the button ''Gaming'' with ''Modeling and Painting'' at the main home page.
Don't bother with FAQs.

Former moderator 40kOnline

Lanchester's square law - please obey in list building!

Illumini: "And thank you for not finishing your post with a "" I'm sorry, but after 7200 's that has to be the most annoying sign-off ever."

Armies: Eldar, Necrons, Blood Angels, Grey Knights; World Eaters (30k); Bloodbound; Cryx, Circle, Cyriss 
   
Made in us
Pyro Pilot of a Triach Stalker





The Eternity Gate

GW has abdicated, right or wrong, any and all responsibility for rules confusion or dispute beyond dice it off. Sucks, but the way it is for now.

That's part of the reason why the ITC rules are so popular and used because something has to fill the void.

01001000 01100001 01101001 01101100 00100000 01101111 01110101 01110010 00100000 01001110 01100101 01100011 01110010 01101111 01101110 00100000 01101111 01110110 01100101 01110010 01101100 01101111 01110010 01100100 01110011 00100001  
   
Made in us
Khorne Veteran Marine with Chain-Axe




Bodt

 buddha wrote:
GW has abdicated, right or wrong, any and all responsibility for rules confusion or dispute beyond dice it off. Sucks, but the way it is for now.

That's part of the reason why the ITC rules are so popular and used because something has to fill the void.

Gotta forge that narrative, man. The rules are *intentionally* murky so you gotta forge that narrative as hard as you can!

....sigh

4000 pts
4700+ pts
2500 pts Hive Fleet Gungnir

St. Peter don't you call me 'cause I can't go. I owe my soul to GW's store. 
   
Made in in
[MOD]
Otiose in a Niche






Hyderabad, India

Can't improve on perfection amirite?

 
   
Made in us
Blood Angel Terminator with Lightning Claws



Sioux Falls, SD

I did notice they went through sometime in the last day or two and removed the outdated FAQs for codexs that had been updated. The DA was up on Wednesday as was the imperial knight one and they are both gone now on the US site.

Blood for the bloo... wait no, I meant for Sanguinius!  
   
Made in us
Decrepit Dakkanaut






New Orleans, LA

Damn shame.

DA:70S+G+M+B++I++Pw40k08+D++A++/fWD-R+T(M)DM+
 
   
Made in se
Dakka Veteran



Sweden

I believe that once the current pace of getting all the rules and codices updated for 7th edition is done, we will see the codex pace slow down and GW will focus on updating the game with "slot in" formations and models (e.g. Kauyon/Mont'ka) without having to update the codices. When all are updated for 7th edition we might start seeing some FAQ's / Erratas where applicable.

But i could be totally wrong and 8th edition is due for release next year=)

This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2015/12/04 15:01:21


 
   
Made in us
Longtime Dakkanaut




I don't see a new edition any time soon. Several iterviews with GW staff have kinda said this is the edition to stay around for a while. Chances are we'll see more campaign books and splashing in new units. I kinda like that better.
   
Made in us
Abel





Washington State

See my signature about the narrative.

Huge cop out on GW's part for no FAQ's. No reason for them to have stopped doing them.

Kara Sloan shoots through Time and Design Space for a Negative Play Experience  
   
Made in us
Painlord Titan Princeps of Slaanesh





People please stop buying their books. The rules are garbage and when you buy it you are telling them,"Hi i will continue to support your poor writing for this hard cover edition with many highquality pictures and well written fluff that distract from the confusing and often conflicting rules forcing me and my friend to forge the narrative."
   
Made in us
Longtime Dakkanaut




Minneapolis, MN

On the flip side, at least they didn't nuke the entire rule system and universe.
   
Made in gb
Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain





Earth

 DanielBeaver wrote:
On the flip side, at least they didn't nuke the entire rule system and universe.


Yet
   
Made in us
Longtime Dakkanaut




I'm starting to think that is less and less likely. Though the numbers arn't official, AOS doesn't seem to be selling well. Any plans they might have had is probably going to be but on hold if the numbers are bad.
   
Made in gb
Longtime Dakkanaut





UK

Well AoS alienated the fantasy community. We don't have a lot of 40k players looking at it.

In fact my GW is auctioning off their Lizardmen army.

YMDC = nightmare 
   
Made in br
Fireknife Shas'el




Lisbon, Portugal

They're thinking on releasing one for GMC shooting

AI & BFG: / BMG: Mr. Freeze, Deathstroke / Battletech: SR, OWA / Fallout Factions: BoS / HGB: Caprice / Malifaux: Arcanists, Guild, Outcasts / MCP: Mutants / SAGA: Ordensstaat / SW Legion: CIS / WWX: Union

 Unit1126PLL wrote:
"FW is unbalanced and going to ruin tournaments."
"Name one where it did that."
"IT JUST DOES OKAY!"

 Shadenuat wrote:
Voted Astra Militarum for a chance for them to get nerfed instead of my own army.
 
   
Made in gb
Longtime Dakkanaut





UK

Key word being thinking no doubt

YMDC = nightmare 
   
Made in ca
Secretive Dark Angels Veteran




Canada

 jeffersonian000 wrote:
GW has repeatedly stated over the past few years that they are a models company, not a games company (perhaps because they never bother to read their company's name?). As such, they have no vested interest in supporting Errata or FAQs. All we can do as a community is get over it and workout issues on our own. Thankfully, the interwebz exist!

SJ


in fact to up front the only reason we have rules at all anymore is beyond me, i think that if they had their way 40k and sigmar would have no rules at all right now and it would be models and bedtime stories. and if people dont believe me look no further then sigmars release list. everything is models and storybooks. to date weve had 2 count them TWO releases of rules before the advent calendar that were in any way brought in with fanfare or celebration

DA army: 3500pts,
admech army: 600pts
ravenguard: 565 pts

 
   
Made in ca
Rampaging Carnifex





Toronto, Ontario

A lot of people seem very confident 7th edition is going to be around for a while, but those who were around at the time might remember we were hearing that very same thing about 6th edition. I won't be surprised if we get a new rulebook next year, and frankly no amount of hearsay is going to convince me that it's impossible.

As to the FAQs and erratas, yeah it's incredibly sad. Such minimal effort required and they don't do it. Totally inexcusable.
   
Made in ca
Longtime Dakkanaut





Canada

If it ain't broke don't fix it. Or rather, just fix it later down the road with a new codex, or campaign supplement that the customer has to shell out for.

Honestly I am not complaining, the last few campaign books have been excellent and coming from a Skaven player the 8th edition FAQ and Errata was bigger than my army book. I'd rather just live with the odd rules quibble than sort through 20+ pages of an FAQ.

Yes, that's an extreme example, but for the most part you can get your opponent to agree on an questionable rule one way or another, and for competitive play your TO should have their own FAQ and/or be able to make a decision on a ruling in advance of the tournament date.

 
   
Made in nl
Confessor Of Sins






 Vector Strike wrote:
They're thinking on releasing one for GMC shooting


It's the same as FW promising updates for the old books... you usually just wait for the next 'second edition' release that doesn't fix it!

Cratfworld Alaitoc (Gallery)
Order of the Red Mantle (Gallery)
Grand (little) Army of Chaos, now painting! (Blog
   
Made in us
Nasty Nob






Underling: "Sir, our models aren't selling well!"
Big Wig: "Increase the price of the models to compensate!"
Underling: "But sir..."
Big Wig: "Do you want to go in the box?"
Underling: "No! No box!"
Big Wig: "Good underling. Now, tell me what's this ruckus about "rules"? Do we sell "rules" for a "game"?"
Underling: "Yes sir, we do."
Big Wig: *points at box*
Underling: "I mean, uh, game, what game? What would a miniatures company be doing selling rules for a game? We make miniatures!"
Big Wig: "Correct. Now, go print some more of those book thingies, you know the sales catalogs."
Underling: "You mean codexes, sir?"
Big Wig: "You know, we still haven't let that guy who writes FAQ's out of his box. Perhaps he would like some company?"
Underling: "Right away, sir! Printing more sales catalogs!"
Big Wig: "Excellent." *tents fingers*


My P&M blog: Cleatus, the Scratch-building Mekboy
Successful Swap Trades: 6 
   
Made in gb
Longtime Dakkanaut





UK

It seems like Big Wig doesn't understand the rules is what sells his product.

I much prefer the Infinity range and if both games stopped producing rules, I'd be more willing to by from Corvus Belli

YMDC = nightmare 
   
Made in jp
[MOD]
Anti-piracy Officer






Somewhere in south-central England.

I think GW should be congratulated for not having made a single error of typo or clarity in all their rules published this year.

I'm writing a load of fiction. My latest story starts here... This is the index of all the stories...

We're not very big on official rules. Rules lead to people looking for loopholes. What's here is about it. 
   
Made in gb
Killer Klaivex




The dark behind the eyes.

 Cleatus wrote:
Underling: "Sir, our models aren't selling well!"
Big Wig: "Increase the price of the models to compensate!"
Underling: "But sir..."
Big Wig: "Do you want to go in the box?"
Underling: "No! No box!"
Big Wig: "Good underling. Now, tell me what's this ruckus about "rules"? Do we sell "rules" for a "game"?"
Underling: "Yes sir, we do."
Big Wig: *points at box*
Underling: "I mean, uh, game, what game? What would a miniatures company be doing selling rules for a game? We make miniatures!"
Big Wig: "Correct. Now, go print some more of those book thingies, you know the sales catalogs."
Underling: "You mean codexes, sir?"
Big Wig: "You know, we still haven't let that guy who writes FAQ's out of his box. Perhaps he would like some company?"
Underling: "Right away, sir! Printing more sales catalogs!"
Big Wig: "Excellent." *tents fingers*


The sad thing is, I suspect this is pretty close to the mark.

 blood reaper wrote:
I will respect human rights and trans people but I will never under any circumstances use the phrase 'folks' or 'ya'll'. I would rather be killed by firing squad.



 the_scotsman wrote:
Yeah, when i read the small novel that is the Death Guard unit options and think about resolving the attacks from a melee-oriented min size death guard squad, the thing that springs to mind is "Accessible!"

 Argive wrote:
GW seems to have a crystal ball and just pulls hairbrained ideas out of their backside for the most part.


 Andilus Greatsword wrote:

"Prepare to open fire at that towering Wraithknight!"
"ARE YOU DAFT MAN!?! YOU MIGHT HIT THE MEN WHO COME UP TO ITS ANKLES!!!"


Akiasura wrote:
I hate to sound like a serial killer, but I'll be reaching for my friend occam's razor yet again.


 insaniak wrote:

You're not. If you're worried about your opponent using 'fake' rules, you're having fun the wrong way. This hobby isn't about rules. It's about buying Citadel miniatures.

Please report to your nearest GW store for attitude readjustment. Take your wallet.
 
   
Made in us
Regular Dakkanaut




I really just want them to come out and fix the Ravenwing Detachment with 3 HQ's and only one option to field. I can understand them wanting players to coin flip grey areas, but when you make a codex with a glaring rules flaw, it needs to be fixed.
   
Made in us
Battlefortress Driver with Krusha Wheel






 buddha wrote:
GW has abdicated, right or wrong, any and all responsibility for rules confusion or dispute beyond dice it off. Sucks, but the way it is for now.

That's part of the reason why the ITC rules are so popular and used because something has to fill the void.


And thank goodness we have them. Now we can Nerf minority faction players of their good things while maintaining things like super friends on a simple majority mob vote. Who needs rule clarifications when you can just ask the mob if the new powerful rule set they don't use and would have to struggle against should be allowed!

warhammer 40k mmo. If I can drive an ork trukk into the back of a space marine dread and explode in a fireball of epic, I can die happy!

8k points
3k points
3k points
Admech 2.5k points
 
   
Made in us
Longtime Dakkanaut




Other things perceived as OP have been put to votes and Tau are hardly destroyed because one piece of there formation was changed.
   
Made in es
Pulsating Possessed Chaos Marine





 Kilkrazy wrote:
I think GW should be congratulated for not having made a single error of typo or clarity in all their rules published this year.




The spanish version of the Dark Angels codex is absolute king of the hill btw. Sentences, even entire paragraphs left in English. No quality control, not an ounce of care, still premium prices. And this is no crazy internet gossip, one of the guys in my gaming group bought it.

I have seen other companies (from several fields) treating their customers poorly, but GW is simply a step beyond.

Progress is like a herd of pigs: everybody is interested in the produced benefits, but nobody wants to deal with all the resulting gak.

GW customers deserve every bit of outrageous princing they get. 
   
 
Forum Index » 40K General Discussion
Go to: