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According to the rules of both the Storm Raven and the Leviathan Dreadnaught, the Dread can be hauled around. Does this make the Leviathan an even bigger threat? Could it be really annoying when you now have one in your backfield Turn 2?

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It makes it terrifying. This thing is scary enough as is, now imagine it dropping down behind you.....

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 War Kitten wrote:
It makes it terrifying. This thing is scary enough as is, now imagine it dropping down behind you.....


Now Imagine if it could shoot from the storm raven... Flying Landraider away!

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I would love it if I saw one across from me in a Raven. Cause it to crash and that big vassal dread goes down too.

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In a Stormraven in a Ravenhawk Assault Group that deepstrikes and hovers the turn it comes in....

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It also fits in a Drop Pod too, and that is a lot more scary.

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 Orock wrote:
I would love it if I saw one across from me in a Raven. Cause it to crash and that big vassal dread goes down too.


4+ invuln and 4 hp begs to differ. A flying landraider, carrying a land raider, is very dangerous

H.B.M.C.- The end hath come! From now on armies will only consist of Astorath, Land Speeder Storms and Soul Grinders!
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 casvalremdeikun wrote:
It also fits in a Drop Pod too, and that is a lot more scary.


Agreed, turn one is always preferable.

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 Crablezworth wrote:
 casvalremdeikun wrote:
It also fits in a Drop Pod too, and that is a lot more scary.


Agreed, turn one is always preferable.


I think someone above posted about a Stormraven being able to come on turn one with a Ravenguard formation

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 Tactical_Spam wrote:
 Crablezworth wrote:
 casvalremdeikun wrote:
It also fits in a Drop Pod too, and that is a lot more scary.


Agreed, turn one is always preferable.


I think someone above posted about a Stormraven being able to come on turn one with a Ravenguard formation


Yeah but formations are apoc, I was talkin 40k. (being glib here)

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 Crablezworth wrote:
 Tactical_Spam wrote:
 Crablezworth wrote:
 casvalremdeikun wrote:
It also fits in a Drop Pod too, and that is a lot more scary.


Agreed, turn one is always preferable.


I think someone above posted about a Stormraven being able to come on turn one with a Ravenguard formation


Yeah but formations are apoc, I was talkin 40k. (being glib here)


Or buy a Sky shield landing pad. Storm Raven beats a pod anyday

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 Tactical_Spam wrote:
 Crablezworth wrote:
 casvalremdeikun wrote:
It also fits in a Drop Pod too, and that is a lot more scary.


Agreed, turn one is always preferable.


I think someone above posted about a Stormraven being able to come on turn one with a Ravenguard formation
Only on a 4+. Drop Pod comes in automatically. Also consider that the Drop Pod costs a sixth of the points.

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 casvalremdeikun wrote:
 Tactical_Spam wrote:
 Crablezworth wrote:
 casvalremdeikun wrote:
It also fits in a Drop Pod too, and that is a lot more scary.


Agreed, turn one is always preferable.


I think someone above posted about a Stormraven being able to come on turn one with a Ravenguard formation
Only on a 4+. Drop Pod comes in automatically. Also consider that the Drop Pod costs a sixth of the points.


I think a dreadnaught drop pod is 60 or more points which would make it 1/4 to half the cost and can't carry 10 extra dudes (say a tech marine with servo buddies) and doesn't have guns out the wazzoo.

Edit: Also, a Storm Raven with a Leviathan is a scary, scary Turn 2 counter. Bad placement from the enemy and he loses much of his force to the insane dakka those two units put out

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H.B.M.C.- The end hath come! From now on armies will only consist of Astorath, Land Speeder Storms and Soul Grinders!
War Kitten- Vanden, you just taunted the Dank Lord Ezra. Prepare for seven years of fighting reality...
koooaei- Emperor: I envy your nipplehorns. <Magnus goes red. Permanently>
Neronoxx- If our Dreadnought doesn't have sick scuplted abs, we riot.
Frazzled- I don't generally call anyone by a term other than "sir" "maam" "youn g lady" "young man" or " HEY bag!"
Ruin- It's official, we've ran out of things to talk about on Dakka. Close the site. We're done.
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 Tactical_Spam wrote:
 casvalremdeikun wrote:
 Tactical_Spam wrote:
 Crablezworth wrote:
 casvalremdeikun wrote:
It also fits in a Drop Pod too, and that is a lot more scary.


Agreed, turn one is always preferable.


I think someone above posted about a Stormraven being able to come on turn one with a Ravenguard formation
Only on a 4+. Drop Pod comes in automatically. Also consider that the Drop Pod costs a sixth of the points.


I think a dreadnaught drop pod is 60 or more points which would make it 1/4 to half the cost and can't carry 10 extra dudes (say a tech marine with servo buddies) and doesn't have guns out the wazzoo.

Edit: Also, a Storm Raven with a Leviathan is a scary, scary Turn 2 counter. Bad placement from the enemy and he loses much of his force to the insane dakka those two units put out


Yes it could be quite nasty. I keep thinking of something like "fly me closer, I want to hit him with my fist!"

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The Dog-house

 War Kitten wrote:
 Tactical_Spam wrote:
 casvalremdeikun wrote:
 Tactical_Spam wrote:
 Crablezworth wrote:
 casvalremdeikun wrote:
It also fits in a Drop Pod too, and that is a lot more scary.


Agreed, turn one is always preferable.


I think someone above posted about a Stormraven being able to come on turn one with a Ravenguard formation
Only on a 4+. Drop Pod comes in automatically. Also consider that the Drop Pod costs a sixth of the points.


I think a dreadnaught drop pod is 60 or more points which would make it 1/4 to half the cost and can't carry 10 extra dudes (say a tech marine with servo buddies) and doesn't have guns out the wazzoo.

Edit: Also, a Storm Raven with a Leviathan is a scary, scary Turn 2 counter. Bad placement from the enemy and he loses much of his force to the insane dakka those two units put out


Yes it could be quite nasty. I keep thinking of something like "fly me closer, I want to hit him with my fist!"


Well... its a 500+ point super unit, I would hope its nasty

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War Kitten- Vanden, you just taunted the Dank Lord Ezra. Prepare for seven years of fighting reality...
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 Tactical_Spam wrote:
 casvalremdeikun wrote:
 Tactical_Spam wrote:
 Crablezworth wrote:
 casvalremdeikun wrote:
It also fits in a Drop Pod too, and that is a lot more scary.


Agreed, turn one is always preferable.


I think someone above posted about a Stormraven being able to come on turn one with a Ravenguard formation
Only on a 4+. Drop Pod comes in automatically. Also consider that the Drop Pod costs a sixth of the points.


I think a dreadnaught drop pod is 60 or more points which would make it 1/4 to half the cost and can't carry 10 extra dudes (say a tech marine with servo buddies) and doesn't have guns out the wazzoo.

Edit: Also, a Storm Raven with a Leviathan is a scary, scary Turn 2 counter. Bad placement from the enemy and he loses much of his force to the insane dakka those two units put out
It's a good thing you don't need to get the Dreadnought Drop Pod. The 35 pt Drop Pod can carry a Dreadnought of any type. This would include the Leviathan.

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 Crablezworth wrote:

Yeah but formations are apoc, I was talkin 40k. (being glib here)

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 casvalremdeikun wrote:
 Tactical_Spam wrote:
 casvalremdeikun wrote:
 Tactical_Spam wrote:
 Crablezworth wrote:
 casvalremdeikun wrote:
It also fits in a Drop Pod too, and that is a lot more scary.


Agreed, turn one is always preferable.


I think someone above posted about a Stormraven being able to come on turn one with a Ravenguard formation
Only on a 4+. Drop Pod comes in automatically. Also consider that the Drop Pod costs a sixth of the points.


I think a dreadnaught drop pod is 60 or more points which would make it 1/4 to half the cost and can't carry 10 extra dudes (say a tech marine with servo buddies) and doesn't have guns out the wazzoo.

Edit: Also, a Storm Raven with a Leviathan is a scary, scary Turn 2 counter. Bad placement from the enemy and he loses much of his force to the insane dakka those two units put out
It's a good thing you don't need to get the Dreadnought Drop Pod. The 35 pt Drop Pod can carry a Dreadnought of any type. This would include the Leviathan.


The leviathan's profile says its too bid to take a regular drop pod

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Neronoxx- If our Dreadnought doesn't have sick scuplted abs, we riot.
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It's a big expensive unit and the flyer isn't cheap. Not the strongest combo.
   
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 Tactical_Spam wrote:
 Orock wrote:
I would love it if I saw one across from me in a Raven. Cause it to crash and that big vassal dread goes down too.


4+ invuln and 4 hp begs to differ. A flying landraider, carrying a land raider, is very dangerous
twin linked anvilus autocannon batteries and aiolos missiles beg to differ.

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 Tactical_Spam wrote:
 casvalremdeikun wrote:
 Tactical_Spam wrote:
 casvalremdeikun wrote:
 Tactical_Spam wrote:
 Crablezworth wrote:
 casvalremdeikun wrote:
It also fits in a Drop Pod too, and that is a lot more scary.


Agreed, turn one is always preferable.


I think someone above posted about a Stormraven being able to come on turn one with a Ravenguard formation
Only on a 4+. Drop Pod comes in automatically. Also consider that the Drop Pod costs a sixth of the points.


I think a dreadnaught drop pod is 60 or more points which would make it 1/4 to half the cost and can't carry 10 extra dudes (say a tech marine with servo buddies) and doesn't have guns out the wazzoo.

Edit: Also, a Storm Raven with a Leviathan is a scary, scary Turn 2 counter. Bad placement from the enemy and he loses much of his force to the insane dakka those two units put out
It's a good thing you don't need to get the Dreadnought Drop Pod. The 35 pt Drop Pod can carry a Dreadnought of any type. This would include the Leviathan.


The leviathan's profile says its too bid to take a regular drop pod
Just the 30K version can't. The 40K version says no such thing. Drop Pods must have been improved in the 10K years.

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The leviathan is physically as big as a standard drop pod... How does that even work?

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War Kitten- Vanden, you just taunted the Dank Lord Ezra. Prepare for seven years of fighting reality...
koooaei- Emperor: I envy your nipplehorns. <Magnus goes red. Permanently>
Neronoxx- If our Dreadnought doesn't have sick scuplted abs, we riot.
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 Tactical_Spam wrote:
The leviathan is physically as big as a standard drop pod... How does that even work?
the same way a squad of tactical marines fit in a Rhino.

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 casvalremdeikun wrote:
 Tactical_Spam wrote:
The leviathan is physically as big as a standard drop pod... How does that even work?
the same way a squad of tactical marines fit in a Rhino.


Its possible, I saw a very detailed diagram on how that actually works

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The 40k version of the rules say it can take a dreadnought drop pod, not the regular drop pod. 50 pts, not 35.
   
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DarthDiggler wrote:
The 40k version of the rules say it can take a dreadnought drop pod, not the regular drop pod. 50 pts, not 35.
it says it can purchase a Dreadnought Drop Pod as a dedicated transport. The regular Drop Pod says it can fit a Dreadnought of any type. The Leviathan Dreadnought is a Dreadnought of any type.

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 casvalremdeikun wrote:
DarthDiggler wrote:
The 40k version of the rules say it can take a dreadnought drop pod, not the regular drop pod. 50 pts, not 35.
it says it can purchase a Dreadnought Drop Pod as a dedicated transport. The regular Drop Pod says it can fit a Dreadnought of any type. The Leviathan Dreadnought is a Dreadnought of any type.


Not to be that guy, but RAW you're right.

What you're missing is that, RAW, it lacks the ability to purchase a regular drop pod. So sort of like how a tactical squad can fit into a land raider, but can't purchase one as a dedicate transport.

   
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So, I'm supposed to be afraid of you spending half your points on a dread + transport that can kill one cheap MSU unit a turn, and get tarpitted by anything with more than 4-5 wounds? Please, bring this spectacular waste of points every game.

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 morganfreeman wrote:
 casvalremdeikun wrote:
DarthDiggler wrote:
The 40k version of the rules say it can take a dreadnought drop pod, not the regular drop pod. 50 pts, not 35.
it says it can purchase a Dreadnought Drop Pod as a dedicated transport. The regular Drop Pod says it can fit a Dreadnought of any type. The Leviathan Dreadnought is a Dreadnought of any type.


Not to be that guy, but RAW you're right.

What you're missing is that, RAW, it lacks the ability to purchase a regular drop pod. So sort of like how a tactical squad can fit into a land raider, but can't purchase one as a dedicate transport.
Just buy a Drop Pod in a Fast Attack slot. It is no different than a Dev Cent squad that way.

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