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Ok, for the Faeit allergic.

Doesn't tie up, time wise, with the original rumour though.

I love the way they've put the approx. discount in the description for the maths adverse,

I wonder if they're just set up to hit the price point, or if the more heavily discounted stuff is the slowest selling normally and they've priced it to move

A couple boxes there are quite tempting.

Interesting to see that Orc Boys are still in.

Really glad they are bringing back more affordable entry armies. Sure dark vengeance is value for money but it's not balanced and its it's incredibly vanilla. With sets like these you may encourage more players who aren't interested in any type of marine.

Hm, 12 space marines is a "deal" at 85$? I guess I haven't bought models in a while..

These deals are a great starting point, but they continue to highlight GWs lack of knowledge about their own products and customer base. Start collecting Orks by paying $85 for 17 models? K.

 Kirasu wrote:
Hm, 12 space marines is a "deal" at 85$? I guess I haven't bought models in a while..

Tac squad $40
Ven Dread $46.25
Mono-pose plastic HQ ~$30 <-- this is the horrible thing.

It’s interesting that the current SM battleforce (Tac squad, reg. dread, mono-pose captain) Sells for $100. The one listed here has the venerable dread, rather then the basic one (wash, price wise, but a better kit), and a terminator character, rather then the lame c-grav captain. For $15 less

 Dendarien wrote:
These deals are a great starting point, but they continue to highlight GWs lack of knowledge about their own products and customer base. Start collecting Orks by paying $85 for 17 models? K.

Well, that'd be Orcs, and pretty in line with starting AoS. The force wouldn't be too bad to play a couple games with, and then if you like it you buy trolls or an arachnarok spider or some other big, fierce unit.

And then you're basically done.

That Tau set is crazy good value. The new Crisis are $75 so for 10 more you get an Ethereal and a unit of Fire Warriors. I was going to put my purchasing on hold but looks like there is going to be more Tau waiting to be assembled and painted in the near future. Seems odd to release starter sets AFTER the holidays but maybe they wanted Betrayal at Calth to be the big ticket item for December. The Necron starter seems somewhat lackluster when they already have a fairly good battleforce still in production.

Shame they didn't have an Ork starter box. The mekmob was a dumpster fire of a bundle and the old Ork battleforce didn't really offer much in terms of savings. Would really love to see what kind of a formation the Orks would of gotten in such a box.

Something big and nasty for 40k?
Well, they need to get rid of Slaanesh in 40k as well...
Perhaps those nifty Harlequins actually pull of their plot to get slaanesh out of the way.

So these are orderable from normal retailers or direct only?

As it is the Skitarri and Lizardmen sets are amazing deals. I mean you basically buy a Carnosaur and get cold one calvary and a box of warriors for free.

 Hulksmash wrote:
So these are orderable from normal retailers or direct only?

This is the same retailers list that gets posted whenever new stuff is coming out, and a lot of it is not stuff that I could ever see them actually selling(6-packs of spray cans) to customers...but y'never know.

As it is the Skitarri and Lizardmen sets are amazing deals. I mean you basically buy a Carnosaur and get cold one calvary and a box of warriors for free.

I cannot think of a single one of these boxes that isn't an amazing deal.

 Hulksmash wrote:
So these are orderable from normal retailers or direct only?

As it is the Skitarri and Lizardmen sets are amazing deals. I mean you basically buy a Carnosaur and get cold one calvary and a box of warriors for free.

If you can get them from a retailer, that would be amazing. 25% off an already good deal is a super deal.

 pretre wrote:
If you can get them from a retailer, that would be amazing. 25% off an already good deal is a super deal.

Yes, it certainly is. Look at that Tau Battalion and think of only paying $63.75 + tax for it. Yea, I'm pretty sure I'll be grabbing one as soon as they hit the street.

 pretre wrote:

 Hulksmash wrote:
So these are orderable from normal retailers or direct only?

As it is the Skitarri and Lizardmen sets are amazing deals. I mean you basically buy a Carnosaur and get cold one calvary and a box of warriors for free.

If you can get them from a retailer, that would be amazing. 25% off an already good deal is a super deal.

Yes, you can get it from a retailer. It's RTD (the Route to Market column). The items that are web-only are marked D.

Wow. $20 for a can of spray paint. *cough*

 Talys wrote:

 pretre wrote:

 Hulksmash wrote:
So these are orderable from normal retailers or direct only?

As it is the Skitarri and Lizardmen sets are amazing deals. I mean you basically buy a Carnosaur and get cold one calvary and a box of warriors for free.

If you can get them from a retailer, that would be amazing. 25% off an already good deal is a super deal.

Yes, you can get it from a retailer. It's RTD (the Route to Market column). The items that are web-only are marked D.

That puts the Skitarii deal at 45% of Retail before shipping. Nice.

What are the contents of the Guard deal?

Thanks!

Not an interesting set though, pity.

Still a hell of a good deal for $85 though.

It's good money, sure, but not exactly an interesting deal. The Skitarii one is better looking, if a bit odd, containing models from two different armies.

 BrookM wrote:
It's good money, sure, but not exactly an interesting deal. The Skitarii one is better looking, if a bit odd, containing models from two different armies.

I did think that was odd.

That's why I'm sincerely thinking that there is going to be Formation rules contained within the sets, much like the recent Burning Dawn and Shadow Force Solaq sets.

Its kinda bad when even GW is struggling to justify the split between the Skitarii and Cult Mech codex when they can't even keep the starter bundle contained to models from one codex.

 Vankraken wrote:
Its kinda bad when even GW is struggling to justify the split between the Skitarii and Cult Mech codex when they can't even keep the starter bundle contained to models from one codex.

Actually it is great marketing, and excellent deal towards a great formation that requires 3 books to play, which goes full circle to marketing.

Personally - I'd reckon the 'something big' will be 30k range in stores and broadened out. Or the fabled return of Specialist games?

I say this because remembering from posts here and there of what supposedly is and isn't confirmed as fact (and please correct me if I've miss quoted / remembered here)

#1 - There is defiantly no 40k 'end times' coming. quoting what's been banded about for a while.
#2 - 30k range was planned to come dependent on the sales of the calth box - good sales meant sooner.
#3 - Don't think the Deathwatch game counts as that big??? What anyone else reckon?
- Further on from that If they do do a Genestealer cult army - is that big? I hope they do it but 'big'?
#5 - On the specialist games front - If the talk of Blood Bowl coming back is true, why would they just do Blood Bowl and not some of the other specialist games? Surely 'Big' would be doing the lot or some others too
- And thinking about that - as Age of Sigmar has gone kind of small war band style, Why not bring back Necromunda as a 40k skirmish game? - there's no rumor or facts attached to me saying that, just going on a tangent of marketing strategy.
#4 - Lets face it, it ain't gonna be Slann or Zoats! and probably even less chance of Sisters of Battle!

Tsilber wrote:

 Vankraken wrote:
Its kinda bad when even GW is struggling to justify the split between the Skitarii and Cult Mech codex when they can't even keep the starter bundle contained to models from one codex.

Actually it is great marketing, and excellent deal towards a great formation that requires 3 books to play, which goes full circle to marketing.

And that formation requires a White Dwarf long since unavailable, so until it makes an appearance in an actual book?

It's not marketing. It's them finding the one and only Mechanicus blister to add in.

They might just include the formation in the box.

 ImAGeek wrote:
They might just include the formation in the box.

They're not including the War Convocation(which requires a hell of a lot more than that set includes) in some random "starter" box. I can basically guarantee that.