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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/07 07:08:07
Subject: Someone's concept of generations, by graph
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So this is a thing. Trigger warning: Business Insider
http://www.businessinsider.com/goldman-sachs-chart-of-the-generations-and-gen-z-2015-12
The generation that will succeed the millennials is already on the cusp of becoming more important and influential than the millennials, according to Goldman Sachs:
The oldest members of " Gen Z" are already 17, and entering college and the workforce in the US. They are going to be greater in number than the millennials were, better at using the internet, and more entrepreneurial and pragmatic about money, according to Goldman analysts Robert Boroujerdi and Christopher Wolf.
"Raised by Gen-X parents during a time marred by economic stress, rising student debt burdens, socio-economic tensions and war overseas, these youths carry a less idealistic, more pragmatic perspective on the world," the pair write.
A member of Gen-Z is anyone born after 1998. Here's what they look like, according to Goldman Sachs:
Even though none of them have yet reached adulthood they are already greater in number than Generation X and their grandparents' generations, and will soon overtake the millennials in number, too.
There are nearly 70 million of them in the US.
Every single Gen-Z member was born after the advent of the internet. They are the first generation to have no pre-internet knowledge. "However, unlike their Millennial predecessors, Gen-Z appears more conscious of protecting their reputations online. More than half (57%) have abstained from posting something because they felt it would “reflect badly on them in the future” (Pew Research)."
They will be America’s most diverse generation to date, and a majority of them will be nonwhite by 2020.
Gen-Z is more conservative, more money-oriented, and more entrepreneurial than the millennials were. "A recent Harvard Business Review article suggested that nearly 70% of Gen-Z teens were 'self-employed' (e.g., teaching piano lessons, selling goods on eBay) vs. just 12% that held a 'traditional' teen job (e.g., waiting tables)," Goldman says.
First thoughts:
Frankly I think that anything that fails to try to establish any sort of meaningful generational difference between pre-internet human beings and post-internet human beings is suspect at best.
I mean, yeah, I suppose they MAY be the same "generation" (nevermind that the gap is so large now that you could easily have parents AND their children in the same generation-- wtf?) but I think if you're actually going to try to extrapolate anything even BORDERLINE intelligent out of the divides, you really should take a look at the difference between people who have used the melon-fething Dewey Decimal System and cracked open a goddamned encyclopedia at least once in their lives and those who haven't.
Further, the millennials keep appearing to be dated as starting further and further back with each new graph I see. I used to be about a year older than the millennials. Now I'm about three years within the millennials.
But I'm drunk and this is junk that I can't even call "science".
Speaking of science. I remember how in sixth grade, I had colored folders with the class topic written on them, in cursive. One of my classmates came along and demanded, borderline accusingly, "Is that the name of your GIRLFRIEND?!" I stammered back, stunned for a second, something about how it was the class we were in currently. He was clearly fething with me, but it wasn't until years later that it occurred to me out of the blue that he possibly couldn't read cursive in spite of it being taught for years prior. Based upon the terrible things people say about my seemingly arbitrarily decided age group, maybe... maybe my people ARE the "boogyman" millennials. I don't know though. I appreciate music that involves playing real fething instruments. I am a pretty damn good cook. I've lived by myself since I was 18. Maybe I'm just a man out of time.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/07 08:38:26
Subject: Someone's concept of generations, by graph
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Fixture of Dakka
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daedalus wrote:I appreciate music that involves playing real fething instruments.
Well, that's a pretentious statement.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/07 11:01:11
Subject: Someone's concept of generations, by graph
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Proud Triarch Praetorian
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I am a millenial and I have lived on my own since I was 18, I am a good cook. You are not some sort of special snowflake buddy.
Also, define "real fething instrument" for me please.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/07 11:20:25
Subject: Someone's concept of generations, by graph
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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This is quite possibly the single most pretentious post I've ever seen.
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Peregrine - If you like the army buy it, and don't worry about what one random person on the internet thinks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/07 11:37:08
Subject: Someone's concept of generations, by graph
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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Speaking of science. I remember how in sixth grade, I had colored folders with the class topic written on them, in cursive. One of my classmates came along and demanded, borderline accusingly, "Is that the name of your GIRLFRIEND?!" I stammered back, stunned for a second, something about how it was the class we were in currently. He was clearly fething with me, but it wasn't until years later that it occurred to me out of the blue that he possibly couldn't read cursive in spite of it being taught for years prior. Based upon the terrible things people say about my seemingly arbitrarily decided age group, maybe... maybe my people ARE the "boogyman" millennials. I don't know though. I appreciate music that involves playing real fething instruments. I am a pretty damn good cook. I've lived by myself since I was 18. Maybe I'm just a man out of time.
I am confused. did I miss something? All I see is a graph of populations by generations. And?
As to cursive. Agreed. They don't even teach cursive in many schools now. Its purely optional in my kids schools. Daughter writes in cursive, not The Boy.
As to real instruments-we've had synthesizers since the 60s.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/07 12:40:44
Subject: Someone's concept of generations, by graph
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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daedalus wrote:
But I'm drunk and this is junk that I can't even call "science".
Yeah, don't post drunk.
Generation X is best X.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/07 12:57:59
Subject: Someone's concept of generations, by graph
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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Neanderthals drool humans rule! er wait...crap...
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/07 13:38:56
Subject: Someone's concept of generations, by graph
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Calculating Commissar
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I'm a millenial? Feth.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/07 13:57:02
Subject: Someone's concept of generations, by graph
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Never quite understood what was bad about being a millenial.
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Peregrine - If you like the army buy it, and don't worry about what one random person on the internet thinks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/07 14:08:55
Subject: Someone's concept of generations, by graph
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I don't know what this is supposed to tell us. Anyone care to enlighten me?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/07 14:09:46
Subject: Someone's concept of generations, by graph
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Verviedi wrote:Never quite understood what was bad about being a millenial.
Something about being lazy, not having jobs and complaining all the time. Also entitled, and feeling that participation is important.
All things that they developed entirely on their own with absolutely zero influence from the generations that raised them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/07 14:14:03
Subject: Someone's concept of generations, by graph
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Sigvatr wrote:I don't know what this is supposed to tell us. Anyone care to enlighten me?
Nothing, really. Except maybe that people are living a long time. This age split is more balanced than I thought. With all of the doom and gloom about how many baby boomers there are, I expected a bigger dip with the Generation X crowd.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/07 14:55:20
Subject: Someone's concept of generations, by graph
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Pragmatic Primus Commanding Cult Forces
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Sigvatr wrote:I don't know what this is supposed to tell us. Anyone care to enlighten me?
Well, if it's a critique of research companies and consultants inventing a bunch of stuff about generational personality attributes and differences so they can charge exorbitant prices for "How to market to XXXX" BS presenations/seminars/consulting/whatever...then yes, I agree with that.
Gen X was a whole generation of "slackers" until we got jobs and suddenly weren't anymore. Now we run a lot of stuff. Boomers were a bunch of anti-establishment hippies until they became The Man. The Greatest Generation was an extraordinary bunch, but they also lived at an extraordinary time. Other generations would have stepped up also, if that was what they were required to do.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/07 15:04:16
Subject: Someone's concept of generations, by graph
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Last Remaining Whole C'Tan
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Sigvatr wrote:I don't know what this is supposed to tell us. Anyone care to enlighten me?
You're not missing anything, trust me. Every generation likes to complain about the generation that succeeds them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/07 15:14:12
Subject: Someone's concept of generations, by graph
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Proud Triarch Praetorian
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Frazzled wrote:Speaking of science. I remember how in sixth grade, I had colored folders with the class topic written on them, in cursive. One of my classmates came along and demanded, borderline accusingly, "Is that the name of your GIRLFRIEND?!" I stammered back, stunned for a second, something about how it was the class we were in currently. He was clearly fething with me, but it wasn't until years later that it occurred to me out of the blue that he possibly couldn't read cursive in spite of it being taught for years prior. Based upon the terrible things people say about my seemingly arbitrarily decided age group, maybe... maybe my people ARE the "boogyman" millennials. I don't know though. I appreciate music that involves playing real fething instruments. I am a pretty damn good cook. I've lived by myself since I was 18. Maybe I'm just a man out of time.
I am confused. did I miss something? All I see is a graph of populations by generations. And?
As to cursive. Agreed. They don't even teach cursive in many schools now. Its purely optional in my kids schools. Daughter writes in cursive, not The Boy.
As to real instruments-we've had synthesizers since the 60s.
I learned cursive in school and it is pretty much useless to me right now. I use it to sign my name, but lets be honest here, I don't actually spell my entire name with it. I write the first 2-3 letters and then squiggles. People look at it and they are like "Yeah, that says your name alright." Yeah, sure man. Sure.
I assume his feelings towards "fake instruments" are how you felt when Dylan went electric, Fraz. That must have been so upsetting! Get it, I said you were old!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/07 15:19:00
Subject: Someone's concept of generations, by graph
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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I think you mean the Silver Beatles...
"If you aint Elvis you aint gak"
-Frazzled.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/07 15:20:14
Subject: Re:Someone's concept of generations, by graph
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Rotting Sorcerer of Nurgle
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Gen-Z? More like Gen-Y considering every question I hear is answered with a "Why?"
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H.B.M.C.- The end hath come! From now on armies will only consist of Astorath, Land Speeder Storms and Soul Grinders!
War Kitten- Vanden, you just taunted the Dank Lord Ezra. Prepare for seven years of fighting reality...
koooaei- Emperor: I envy your nipplehorns. <Magnus goes red. Permanently>
Neronoxx- If our Dreadnought doesn't have sick scuplted abs, we riot.
Frazzled- I don't generally call anyone by a term other than "sir" "maam" "youn g lady" "young man" or " HEY bag!"
Ruin- It's official, we've ran out of things to talk about on Dakka. Close the site. We're done.
mrhappyface- "They're more what you'd call guidlines than actual rules" - Captain Roboute Barbosa
Steve steveson- To be clear, I'd sell you all out for a bottle of scotch and a mid priced hooker.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/07 16:58:14
Subject: Someone's concept of generations, by graph
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Battlefield Tourist
MN (Currently in WY)
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Generational Difference in the Twenty-Teens, is like the Eugenics of the 1920s!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/07 17:03:59
Subject: Someone's concept of generations, by graph
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Ouze wrote: Sigvatr wrote:I don't know what this is supposed to tell us. Anyone care to enlighten me?
You're not missing anything, trust me. Every generation likes to complain about the generation that succeeds them.
...or preceeds them. "You don't understand me, you're too old".
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/07 17:41:34
Subject: Re:Someone's concept of generations, by graph
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Guarded Grey Knight Terminator
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"Kids today are so spoilt. In my day...."
I seem to recall someone actually dug through every copy of Time magazine, and bsaically every decade there's an issue dedicated to talking about how lazy the next generation is. They're all basically the same article, just swap out the internet for whatever relevant technology for that decade.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/07 17:54:51
Subject: Someone's concept of generations, by graph
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Goliath wrote: Verviedi wrote:Never quite understood what was bad about being a millenial.
Something about being lazy, not having jobs and complaining all the time. Also entitled, and feeling that participation is important.
All things that they developed entirely on their own with absolutely zero influence from the generations that raised them.
Well, of course they don't have jobs. Baby boomers made it unsustainable to leave jobs, so they refuse to retire at the proper age. All that entitlement is simply for things that boomers took for granted.
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Peregrine - If you like the army buy it, and don't worry about what one random person on the internet thinks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/07 17:57:45
Subject: Someone's concept of generations, by graph
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Member of the Ethereal Council
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Idk, genz seems lazy to me, they cant feed themselves, cant go to the bathroom by themselves, cant even get to school without their parents
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/07 18:00:25
Subject: Someone's concept of generations, by graph
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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hotsauceman1 wrote:Idk, genz seems lazy to me, they cant feed themselves, cant go to the bathroom by themselves, cant even get to school without their parents
Am I missing the humor here?
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Peregrine - If you like the army buy it, and don't worry about what one random person on the internet thinks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/07 18:01:19
Subject: Re:Someone's concept of generations, by graph
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[MOD]
Anti-piracy Officer
Somewhere in south-central England.
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Soon Google and Apple will invent a reliable text to speech algorithm, and kids won't even have to learn how to read.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/07 18:34:37
Subject: Someone's concept of generations, by graph
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Millenials refuse to use apostrophes!
They're cray-cray!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/07 18:36:13
Subject: Re:Someone's concept of generations, by graph
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Rotting Sorcerer of Nurgle
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Kilkrazy wrote:Soon Google and Apple will invent a reliable text to speech algorithm, and kids won't even have to learn how to read.
And a speech to text algorithm?
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H.B.M.C.- The end hath come! From now on armies will only consist of Astorath, Land Speeder Storms and Soul Grinders!
War Kitten- Vanden, you just taunted the Dank Lord Ezra. Prepare for seven years of fighting reality...
koooaei- Emperor: I envy your nipplehorns. <Magnus goes red. Permanently>
Neronoxx- If our Dreadnought doesn't have sick scuplted abs, we riot.
Frazzled- I don't generally call anyone by a term other than "sir" "maam" "youn g lady" "young man" or " HEY bag!"
Ruin- It's official, we've ran out of things to talk about on Dakka. Close the site. We're done.
mrhappyface- "They're more what you'd call guidlines than actual rules" - Captain Roboute Barbosa
Steve steveson- To be clear, I'd sell you all out for a bottle of scotch and a mid priced hooker.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/07 19:37:01
Subject: Re:Someone's concept of generations, by graph
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Tactical_Spam wrote: Kilkrazy wrote:Soon Google and Apple will invent a reliable text to speech algorithm, and kids won't even have to learn how to read.
And a speech to text algorithm?
They don't read books anymore, anyway.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/07 19:39:08
Subject: Re:Someone's concept of generations, by graph
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Then make your kids do it. My oldest hates to read. Doesn't mean we don't make him do it for 30 minutes a night anyways.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/07 19:56:19
Subject: Re:Someone's concept of generations, by graph
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[MOD]
Anti-piracy Officer
Somewhere in south-central England.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/07 19:58:39
Subject: Re:Someone's concept of generations, by graph
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Fate-Controlling Farseer
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