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**Tactical_Spam**

Kharne the Befriender wrote:
Ok, here's the original background:

The Crion system contains 1 planet, 2 moons, and an asteroid belt.

There are 3 (or 4) Hive cities in the system as well as industrial areas, mining stations, research stations, military outposts, abandoned bases, and every type of terrain.

Recently, 1 of the Hive cities has broken ties with the Imperium and is currently renegade and is falling to Chaos.

1 Hive city is requesting assistance from the Imperium to bring itself under control.

The other 2 cities are susceptible to fall to chaos or side with the Imperium.

Every faction can choose to show up on their own accord. Your Intros are still valid. And if an Imperium or Chaos player wants to show up to help or fight the Hive cities they can.

So where will your goals be in a warring system falling into itself?

That;s what I have, any suggestions? Anything not working? Anything I should add/remove?

If you are going to just come up with the story for your map, why the feth am I here, Kharne?

**jhe90**

Let's give chazz a chance. He,s obviously been working hard. Maybe even if its only a cliff notes version to bvase any future pre crusade chunks.

**Irishpeacockz**

jhe90 wrote:
Let's give chazz a chance. He,s obviously been working hard. Maybe even if its only a cliff notes version to bvase any future pre crusade chunks.

im up for giving him a chance but we haven't heard from him in aw while. It seems to me that TS is trying to do his part of the process to create this campaign yet we do stuff that may conflict with some of chazz's stuff that he is doing. When that happens we ask TS questions that in my opinion i dont think he can answer, its chazz's territory and he aint around to answer them which leaves us all a bit either frustrated or confused. Again just adding my two cents.

**War Kitten**

I think the problem is lack of communication. TS and Chazz apparently aren't talking to each other at the moment, leaving TS to forge on alone, lacking half of the information he needs. That leads to us (the players) getting irritated because we don't know what's going on.

**Irishpeacockz**

War Kitten wrote:
I think the problem is lack of communication. TS and Chazz apparently aren't talking to each other at the moment, leaving TS to forge on alone, lacking half of the information he needs. That leads to us (the players) getting irritated because we don't know what's going on.

agreed communication seems to be the recurring issue here.

**Kharne the Befriender**

Tactical_Spam wrote:
Kharne the Befriender wrote:
Ok, here's the original background:

The Crion system contains 1 planet, 2 moons, and an asteroid belt.

There are 3 (or 4) Hive cities in the system as well as industrial areas, mining stations, research stations, military outposts, abandoned bases, and every type of terrain.

Recently, 1 of the Hive cities has broken ties with the Imperium and is currently renegade and is falling to Chaos.

1 Hive city is requesting assistance from the Imperium to bring itself under control.

The other 2 cities are susceptible to fall to chaos or side with the Imperium.

Every faction can choose to show up on their own accord. Your Intros are still valid. And if an Imperium or Chaos player wants to show up to help or fight the Hive cities they can.

So where will your goals be in a warring system falling into itself?

That;s what I have, any suggestions? Anything not working? Anything I should add/remove?

If you are going to just come up with the story for your map, why the feth am I here, Kharne?

Ok, let's get something straight. I talked to Smudge about setting up CoF:2 when I wasn't active in CoF:1. He said I could so I made the map and a background. I released the map but not the background because I didn't want to kill the Crusade. Next thing I know, you and Chazz are redoing my map, and writing a whole other story without even asking how I felt about that. I turned down the GM job to let you and Chazz do that, but the Story and map were my task, not yours.

jhe90 wrote:Let's give chazz a chance. He,s obviously been working hard. Maybe even if its only a cliff notes version to bvase any future pre crusade chunks.

I agree, I really want to see what Chazz has done

**Tactical_Spam**

Kharne the Befriender wrote:
Tactical_Spam wrote:
Kharne the Befriender wrote:
Ok, here's the original background:

The Crion system contains 1 planet, 2 moons, and an asteroid belt.

There are 3 (or 4) Hive cities in the system as well as industrial areas, mining stations, research stations, military outposts, abandoned bases, and every type of terrain.

Recently, 1 of the Hive cities has broken ties with the Imperium and is currently renegade and is falling to Chaos.

1 Hive city is requesting assistance from the Imperium to bring itself under control.

The other 2 cities are susceptible to fall to chaos or side with the Imperium.

Every faction can choose to show up on their own accord. Your Intros are still valid. And if an Imperium or Chaos player wants to show up to help or fight the Hive cities they can.

So where will your goals be in a warring system falling into itself?

That;s what I have, any suggestions? Anything not working? Anything I should add/remove?

If you are going to just come up with the story for your map, why the feth am I here, Kharne?

Ok, let's get something straight. I talked to Smudge about setting up CoF:2 when I wasn't active in CoF:1. He said I could so I made the map and a background. I released the map but not the background because I didn't want to kill the Crusade. Next thing I know, you and Chazz are redoing my map, and writing a whole other story without even asking how I felt about that. I turned down the GM job to let you and Chazz do that, but the Story and map were my task, not yours.

"Hey TS, I know you and Chazz are GM, but I really want to be in charge of fun stuff like map design and background fluff. You can do the boring stuff like go onto to a random number generator and click a button a few times. I don't see why you guys want to do the background fluff when I already did it because the GM of a different Narrative said I could."

This is what you sound like to me.

**Kharne the Befriender**

Wow, you really don't know how to GM this do you?

Yeah sure, you have to generate numbers and tell people how they did. But you're also in charge of all NPC factions, like the Hive Governors, the ships in space, any event that might occur (Like the Hybrids), you also get to help drive the plot with combined actions like the Gallor Prime battle and the Hybrid attack.

It is much much more than random numbers and if you don't realize that and think that all that is worse than making a map and a simple story then I have no faith in you as a GM.

**Irishpeacockz**

I think both kharne and TS need to calm down. There is always a bit of friction between you guys and you need to sort this out before this crusade moves on. If this kind of tension goes on only the crusade will suffer.

**Kharne the Befriender**

Irishpeacockz wrote:
I think both kharne and TS need to calm down. There is always a bit of friction between you guys and you need to sort this out before this crusade moves on. If this kind of tension goes on on,y the crusade will suffer.

I'm calm. I'm just stating what I believe, and the state between the writers and the GM's is already causing the Crusade to suffer. I appreciate what you're saying though

**Irishpeacockz**

Kharne the Befriender wrote:
Irishpeacockz wrote:
I think both kharne and TS need to calm down. There is always a bit of friction between you guys and you need to sort this out before this crusade moves on. If this kind of tension goes on on,y the crusade will suffer.

I'm calm. I'm just stating what I believe, and the state between the writers and the GM's is already causing the Crusade to suffer. I appreciate what you're saying though

you mean GM, TS is pretty much on his own here, so cut him some slack. Yes there needs to be more communication between the writers the GM and hopefully when chazz returns we can shine some light on certain issues that have arisen.

**Irishpeacockz**

Irishpeacockz wrote:
Kharne the Befriender wrote:
Irishpeacockz wrote:
I think both kharne and TS need to calm down. There is always a bit of friction between you guys and you need to sort this out before this crusade moves on. If this kind of tension goes on on,y the crusade will suffer.

I'm calm. I'm just stating what I believe, and the state between the writers and the GM's is already causing the Crusade to suffer. I appreciate what you're saying though
you mean GM, TS is pretty much on his own here, so cut him some slack. Yes there needs to be more communication between the writers and the GMs and hopefully when chazz returns we can shine some light on certain issues that have arisen.

**War Kitten**

Since TS seems to be ignoring the PM I sent him about adding some Harlies to my Eldar, here's the general layout of the Troupe I wanted to have alongside my Warhost.

Shadowseer *insert name here*
Death Jester *insert name here*
Solitaire

10-15 Harlie Troupes (of about 6-7 players each)(plus transports)

5 Squadrons of Skyweavers

**2BlackJack1**

Looks good WK. I for one will look forward to the Death Jester's acting skills. They are one of my favorite units from the fluff.

**Kharne the Befriender**

Irishpeacockz wrote:
Kharne the Befriender wrote:
Irishpeacockz wrote:
I think both kharne and TS need to calm down. There is always a bit of friction between you guys and you need to sort this out before this crusade moves on. If this kind of tension goes on on,y the crusade will suffer.

I'm calm. I'm just stating what I believe, and the state between the writers and the GM's is already causing the Crusade to suffer. I appreciate what you're saying though
you mean GM, TS is pretty much on his own here, so cut him some slack. Yes there needs to be more communication between the writers the GM and hopefully when chazz returns we can shine some light on certain issues that have arisen.

He shouldn't be, the fact that one of our GM's (the one apparently doing all the work) is missing 95% of the time is terrible, Smudge was on at least every other day and giving constant updates. I understand he's doing a lot of this on his own and I respect that, but he's going about it the wrong way. This Crusade is already vastly different from the last one and not in a good way.

**Irishpeacockz**

Kharne the Befriender wrote:
Irishpeacockz wrote:
Kharne the Befriender wrote:
Irishpeacockz wrote:
I think both kharne and TS need to calm down. There is always a bit of friction between you guys and you need to sort this out before this crusade moves on. If this kind of tension goes on on,y the crusade will suffer.

I'm calm. I'm just stating what I believe, and the state between the writers and the GM's is already causing the Crusade to suffer. I appreciate what you're saying though
you mean GM, TS is pretty much on his own here, so cut him some slack. Yes there needs to be more communication between the writers the GM and hopefully when chazz returns we can shine some light on certain issues that have arisen.

He shouldn't be, the fact that one of our GM's (the one apparently doing all the work) is missing 95% of the time is terrible, Smudge was on at least every other day and giving constant updates. I understand he's doing a lot of this on his own and I respect that, but he's going about it the wrong way. This Crusade is already vastly different from the last one and not in a good way.

i agree wholeheartedly kharne

**Kharne the Befriender**

I think this thread has seen enough arguing. What we need to do now is discuss how we are going to fix it to make this fun for everyone now.

And WK, why do I feel like your guys are going to dance around my sharks and make Neck jokes?

**War Kitten**

2BlackJack1 wrote:
Looks good WK. I for one will look forward to the Death Jester's acting skills. They are one of my favorite units from the fluff.

I just hope I can do them justice. Whenever this Crusade actually gets going I'll probably poke around on the wiki

**War Kitten**

Kharne the Befriender wrote:I think this thread has seen enough arguing. What we need to do now is discuss how we are going to fix it to make this fun for everyone now.

And WK, why do I feel like your guys are going to dance around my sharks and make Neck jokes?

Because that was my plan?

**Kharne the Befriender**

War Kitten wrote:
Kharne the Befriender wrote:I think this thread has seen enough arguing. What we need to do now is discuss how we are going to fix it to make this fun for everyone now.

And WK, why do I feel like your guys are going to dance around my sharks and make Neck jokes?

Because that was my plan?

I feel like they would just get really tired, fall down, and die because they have to move to breathe

**Tainted**

Things are getting a little bit tense in here. I appreciate how frustrating it is not knowing what's going on at any given moment, but I think we should wait a day or two for Chazz to respond before we tear eachother to pieces over this.

**War Kitten**

I'm going to have my Harlies have their own reasons for being in this Crusade. Reasons that may or may not revolve around BC's EC

**Kharne the Befriender**

Tainted wrote:Things are getting a little bit tense in here. I appreciate how frustrating it is not knowing what's going on at any given moment, but I think we should wait a day or two for Chazz to respond before we tear eachother to pieces over this.

Agreed

War Kitten wrote:I'm going to have my Harlies have their own reasons for being in this Crusade. Reasons that may or may not revolve around BC's EC

Why does that scare me

**War Kitten**

Because it's supposed to

**2BlackJack1**

I won't call you fish man if you don't call me bird man. Also, I've been poking at my part two intro for the Kroot, but it had some setbacks when I decided to rewrite it from the start with a better idea in mind, and have it retain some chronological order. The second part focuses on the rest of the Kroot characters, while the first answered why they're coming/how they are. (I'm also looking forward to the insult competition between the Kroot and Garth)

**Kharne the Befriender**

2BlackJack1 wrote:
I won't call you fish man if you don't call me bird man. Also, I've been poking at my part two intro for the Kroot, but it had some setbacks when I decided to rewrite it from the start with a better idea in mind, and have it retain some chronological order. The second part focuses on the rest of the Kroot characters, while the first answered why they're coming/how they are. (I'm also looking forward to the insult competition between the Kroot and Garth)

That sounds hilarious

**EvergreenArcher**

2BlackJack1 wrote:
I won't call you fish man if you don't call me bird man. Also, I've been poking at my part two intro for the Kroot, but it had some setbacks when I decided to rewrite it from the start with a better idea in mind, and have it retain some chronological order. The second part focuses on the rest of the Kroot characters, while the first answered why they're coming/how they are. (I'm also looking forward to the insult competition between the Kroot and Garth)

Fish man and bird man sound like they could be superheroes. Its a bird! Its a plane! No, its Birdman! Along with his sidekick Fishman! Here to save the day from [Insert Name Here]!

**2BlackJack1**

By save the day, I'm sure you mean Fishman unloads a storm bolter into one enemy while Birdman gets into a knife fight and brings home the villain in a doggy bag.

**Buttery Commissar**

I'm gonna say we all need to be a little more patient.

I'm a little concerned that chazz is gonna be this distant throughout. Some reassurance either way would go a long way.
But giving time to respond is also necessary.

**Kharne the Befriender**

2BlackJack1 wrote:By save the day, I'm sure you mean Fishman unloads a storm bolter into one enemy while Birdman gets into a knife fight and brings home the villain in a doggy bag.

Fishman will probably make a Khorne Berzerker blush... and Bird man can take home the leftovers after fishman gorges himself

Buttery Commissar wrote:I'm gonna say we all need to be a little more patient.

I'm a little concerned that chazz is gonna be this distant throughout. Some reassurance either way would go a long way.
But giving time to respond is also necessary.

I agree, I'm willing to give him until monday