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 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Sgt_Smudge wrote:
Not heard of, but it's just as feasible as an Inquisitor having a menagerie of xeno specimens in their employ.

I see what you did there.

It is true though. Kharne should be allowed all of the same opportunities as anyone else was, and I think it would be unfair if he weren't allowed the same liberties.

Of course, new GMs, new rules, but I still think it's fair.

 Sgt_Smudge wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Sgt_Smudge wrote:
Not heard of, but it's just as feasible as an Inquisitor having a menagerie of xeno specimens in their employ.

I see what you did there.

It is true though. Kharne should be allowed all of the same opportunities as anyone else was, and I think it would be unfair if he weren't allowed the same liberties.

Of course, new GMs, new rules, but I still think it's fair.

This. I mean if Kharne thinks he can pull it off let him, technically he did in CoF so i dont see why it is a problem.

 Sgt_Smudge wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Sgt_Smudge wrote:
Not heard of, but it's just as feasible as an Inquisitor having a menagerie of xeno specimens in their employ.

I see what you did there.

It is true though. Kharne should be allowed all of the same opportunities as anyone else was, and I think it would be unfair if he weren't allowed the same liberties.

Of course, new GMs, new rules, but I still think it's fair.

Are we still talking about the Tau/Necron thing?

 Sgt_Smudge wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Sgt_Smudge wrote:
Not heard of, but it's just as feasible as an Inquisitor having a menagerie of xeno specimens in their employ.

I see what you did there.

It is true though. Kharne should be allowed all of the same opportunities as anyone else was, and I think it would be unfair if he weren't allowed the same liberties.

Of course, new GMs, new rules, but I still think it's fair.

I just said it had to make sense.

Truth to be told, Inquisitors (especially the Radical kind) are known for that kind of stuff, with their "We'll defeat the enemy by working WITH the enemy! Brilliant!" strategy and all that jazz

I do like the suggestion of captured Tau vessels forced to work with the Necrons, I can imagine Kageros figuratively walking all over the confused Tau with a hearty speech about how they'll make great additions to his fleet

I'm guessing the comments above are referring to Kharne's Necron/Tau alliance?

The thing is, it IS feasible, there's no question of whether or not it fits with the established canon. The Necron fluff specifically states that some Necron Lords are open to diplomacy. I get that some people might not like how they changed the Necron fluff, but that's the way it is. As Ezra said;

"It is the foundation of everything we write for this Crusade, whether we agree with parts of it or not."

Diplomatic Necrons are canon, regardless of whether people like it or not.

The Tau are a pretty good race to get duped into serving another race as well. Rather ironic for the faction that killed Slaanesh, but whatever.

Ok, theres a nuch of writing so I'm going to put things in really simplified form

----War in Heaven
--Kageros and his buddies are getting blasted by Old One forces and call for support. No one answers their call, they are abandoned and the dynasty is doomed.
Less than a total of 1500 people survive
----It's M40 or around there
--Kageros decides to get off his ass and do something lol, he starts to rebuild Voor'Han which is a creation world (Like a Forgeworld), but needs an extreme amount of power to jump start it.
Like, more than they can produce alone
----The Tau and the Freeboota
--The Tau of soon-to-be Rix'Lan are sent to a planet called Prin'shek(Same solar system as Voor'Han) which is mineral dense, to establish a colony. The Tau are attacked by quite the fleet of Freeboota Orks (These Tau come from Lubogra or something like that, it's a Farsight world) they are getting hammered and send a distress signal on all channels
Kageros decides to help thinking they are being abandoned (Plus, they can help with power)
----Diplomacy
--What remains of the Kageros fleet helps kill the Orks, they then make contact with Tau leadership. Most of the military part of the Tau is destroyed.
Kageros says "Hey, if you help us acquire a necessary level of power, we won't kill you! In fact, we'll help protect you.)

Thus, My Necrons help my Tau while they rebuild, and the Tau are helping the Necrons rebuild.

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:
Ok, theres a nuch of writing so I'm going to put things in really simplified form

----War in Heaven
--Kageros and his buddies are getting blasted by Old One forces and call for support. No one answers their call, they are abandoned and the dynasty is doomed.
Less than a total of 1500 people survive
----It's M40 or around there
--Kageros decides to get off his ass and do something lol, he starts to rebuild Voor'Han which is a creation world (Like a Forgeworld), but needs an extreme amount of power to jump start it.
Like, more than they can produce alone
----The Tau and the Freeboota
--The Tau of soon-to-be Rix'Lan are sent to a planet called Prin'shek(Same solar system as Voor'Han) which is mineral dense, to establish a colony. The Tau are attacked by quite the fleet of Freeboota Orks (These Tau come from Lubogra or something like that, it's a Farsight world) they are getting hammered and send a distress signal on all channels
Kageros decides to help thinking they are being abandoned (Plus, they can help with power)
----Diplomacy
--What remains of the Kageros fleet helps kill the Orks, they then make contact with Tau leadership. Most of the military part of the Tau is destroyed.
Kageros says "Hey, if you help us acquire a necessary level of power, we won't kill you! In fact, we'll help protect you.)

Thus, My Necrons help my Tau while they rebuild, and the Tau are helping the Necrons rebuild.

Now this is something we can work with.

The explanation for their alliance is okay, although it's a bit odd the Tau would keep working with the Necrons instead of, y'know, going back home; or is the thing they're rebuilding their ship?

Also, minor addendum; I'm fully aware that Necrons do diplomacy now, I was just wondering why the Tau would agree to work with them in the first place

Just a suggestion here, take it or leave it, perhaps the Tau, already having abandoned the Greater Good (thus being more influenced by the local power, not some distant one) have lost hope with how many Tau died by the greenskins, and see the necrons as their only savior. Did Farsight save them? No. Did the Greater Good save them? No. The necrons did.

Well, the Tau are there to set up a colony.

And think about it, they're negotiating with Necrons, if they refuse, who knows what they'll do.

Eventually mutual trust develops

 2BlackJack1 wrote:
Just a suggestion here, take it or leave it, perhaps the Tau, already having abandoned the Greater Good (thus being more influenced by the local power, not some distant one) have lost hope with how many Tau died by the greenskins, and see the necrons as their only savior. Did Farsight save them? No. Did the Greater Good save them? No. The necrons did.

This kind of as well.

Well, that's perfectly reasonable in my opinion

I actually like the combination of fear and appreciation for the Necron's actions - could be a nice angle to write some stories from, too

 Ezra Tyrius wrote:
Well, that's perfectly reasonable in my opinion

I actually like the combination of fear and appreciation for the Necron's actions - could be a nice angle to write some stories from, too

It's very interesting, they have to trust each other but still co-operate and look out for their own factions.

It's all a part of Warzone: Pulotu. The Next faction I'm incorporating (After I fully develop the sector) will probably be Eldar, then the Imperium, then the other Xenos, then the Chaos shuffle.

So, if I understand correctly, both the Necrons and the Tau have been depleted from combat, and are siding together for security. In that case you might get away with counting them as a single faction.

 Tainted wrote:
So, if I understand correctly, both the Necrons and the Tau have been depleted from combat, and are siding together for security. In that case you might get away with counting them as a single faction.

That makes a lot more sense than "These guys are BFFs for the Lulz"

I never said anything similar to that TS, this was established before I joined the first Crusade

They make sense.
Alot more than I thought it would.

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:
I never said anything similar to that TS, this was established before I joined the first Crusade

It wasn't explicitly explained the last time I read your fluff either.

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:
I never said anything similar to that TS, this was established before I joined the first Crusade

It wasn't explicitly explained the last time I read your fluff either.

It was under "history". When I get home I can quote it if you want

So who's ready for the new thread or should I hold off for a couple of days

 chazz huggins wrote:
So who's ready for the new thread or should I hold off for a couple of days

Please Chazz, do it, end my suffering.

I have no qualms with it. Not sure about everyone else though

 chazz huggins wrote:
So who's ready for the new thread or should I hold off for a couple of days

I don't object to it being up. But I don't feel too strongly either way. I don't mind when it goes up.

I have no strong feelings either way.

BC said that he would have his outro out by tomorrow, so perhaps wait until at least then? Starting it before he gets that outro out hurts his intro, since they're tied together.

 War Kitten wrote:
I have no strong feelings either way.

Wk obviously comes from the nutural planet.
Zack branigan is upset now.

Should he be upset? I mean, he's a 20 star Guard General and I play Guard. We should have an understanding

 2BlackJack1 wrote:
BC said that he would have his outro out by tomorrow, so perhaps wait until at least then? Starting it before he gets that outro out hurts his intro, since they're tied together.

Agreed

So when this new thread goes live will i just put all the stuff i have written so far about my marines into one big spoiler post ?

 Irishpeacockz wrote:
So when this new thread goes live will i just put all the stuff i have written so far about my marines into one big spoiler post ?

What do you mean by all you have written