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2016/06/30 21:06:16
Subject: Re:Crusade of Fury (Chat room/OOC)
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Adopted Son of the Emperor
Flailing on the beach like a beached whale. While also wearing fashionable panties.
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 Gore Grandpa wrote:Thanks for the advice, I'll grow another 3 pairs of eyes 
I was going to ask how dark would be too dark for writing, but after reading some of the stuff you guys have already written I don't think it will be a problem
Long as your Khornates don't rape sheep, we should be fine.
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I'm getting the bleach aren't I?
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TheEyeOfNight I swear, this thread is 70% smack talk, 20% RP organization, and 10% butt jokes.
Tactical_Spam Vanden clearly loves making sweet sweet love to his school. He is the most passionate, learning oriented individual you will ever meet.
War Kitten You should ask nicely before hitting people with your stick Vanden. We're a polite society after all.
2BlackJack1 Snow is great though. Snowmen, snowball fights, frostbite, snow forts, what's not to love?
Kharne the Befriender It's just the smug look of eternal irony while you wait for Creed to pull out his Baneblade so you can steal it.
War Kitten I love how this has gone from a deathly serious war to a discussion about how Vanden is secretly a whale wearing panties. Welcome to the Crusade of Fury.
Irishpeacockz Well this crusade will be endless then as I imagine Vandan has a large collection of inflatables lying around
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2016/06/30 21:07:12
Subject: Re:Crusade of Fury (Chat room/OOC)
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Ultramarine Master with Gauntlets of Macragge
What's left of Cadia
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Gore Grandpa wrote:Thanks for the advice, I'll grow another 3 pairs of eyes
I was going to ask how dark would be too dark for writing, but after reading some of the stuff you guys have already written I don't think it will be a problem
Not really, your stuff will probably be pretty tame in comparison to some of the things we see in the CoF
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TheEyeOfNight- I swear, this thread is 70% smack talk, 20% RP organization, and 10% butt jokes
TheEyeOfNight- "Ordo Xenos reports that the Necrons have attained democracy, kamikaze tendencies, and nuclear fission. It's all tits up, sir."
Space Marine flyers are shaped for the greatest possible air resistance so that the air may never defeat the SPACE MARINES!
Sternguard though, those guys are all about kicking ass. They'd chew bubble gum as well, but bubble gum is heretical. Only tau chew gum
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2016/06/30 21:09:28
Subject: Re:Crusade of Fury (Chat room/OOC)
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Violent Space Marine Dedicated to Khorne
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Vanden, I think you need Draino
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War Kitten You haven't seen anything yet. Stick around for a few weeks and you'll see some things that'll make you question all you know about life, love, and 40k. Such as a Gargant being beheaded by a flying Battle Barge |
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2016/06/30 21:10:03
Subject: Crusade of Fury (Chat room/OOC)
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Adopted Son of the Emperor
Flailing on the beach like a beached whale. While also wearing fashionable panties.
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I can now see WK point to my post and say "Exhibit A".
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TheEyeOfNight I swear, this thread is 70% smack talk, 20% RP organization, and 10% butt jokes.
Tactical_Spam Vanden clearly loves making sweet sweet love to his school. He is the most passionate, learning oriented individual you will ever meet.
War Kitten You should ask nicely before hitting people with your stick Vanden. We're a polite society after all.
2BlackJack1 Snow is great though. Snowmen, snowball fights, frostbite, snow forts, what's not to love?
Kharne the Befriender It's just the smug look of eternal irony while you wait for Creed to pull out his Baneblade so you can steal it.
War Kitten I love how this has gone from a deathly serious war to a discussion about how Vanden is secretly a whale wearing panties. Welcome to the Crusade of Fury.
Irishpeacockz Well this crusade will be endless then as I imagine Vandan has a large collection of inflatables lying around
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2016/06/30 21:10:49
Subject: Crusade of Fury (Chat room/OOC)
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Ultramarine Master with Gauntlets of Macragge
What's left of Cadia
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Vanden, I can point to half of your posts and use them as examples.
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TheEyeOfNight- I swear, this thread is 70% smack talk, 20% RP organization, and 10% butt jokes
TheEyeOfNight- "Ordo Xenos reports that the Necrons have attained democracy, kamikaze tendencies, and nuclear fission. It's all tits up, sir."
Space Marine flyers are shaped for the greatest possible air resistance so that the air may never defeat the SPACE MARINES!
Sternguard though, those guys are all about kicking ass. They'd chew bubble gum as well, but bubble gum is heretical. Only tau chew gum
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2016/06/30 21:13:53
Subject: Crusade of Fury (Chat room/OOC)
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Adopted Son of the Emperor
Flailing on the beach like a beached whale. While also wearing fashionable panties.
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As much as I want to sig that...Your name already takes up half of my quote pool...
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TheEyeOfNight I swear, this thread is 70% smack talk, 20% RP organization, and 10% butt jokes.
Tactical_Spam Vanden clearly loves making sweet sweet love to his school. He is the most passionate, learning oriented individual you will ever meet.
War Kitten You should ask nicely before hitting people with your stick Vanden. We're a polite society after all.
2BlackJack1 Snow is great though. Snowmen, snowball fights, frostbite, snow forts, what's not to love?
Kharne the Befriender It's just the smug look of eternal irony while you wait for Creed to pull out his Baneblade so you can steal it.
War Kitten I love how this has gone from a deathly serious war to a discussion about how Vanden is secretly a whale wearing panties. Welcome to the Crusade of Fury.
Irishpeacockz Well this crusade will be endless then as I imagine Vandan has a large collection of inflatables lying around
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2016/06/30 21:15:40
Subject: Crusade of Fury (Chat room/OOC)
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Ultramarine Master with Gauntlets of Macragge
What's left of Cadia
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I'm just that amazing apparently.
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TheEyeOfNight- I swear, this thread is 70% smack talk, 20% RP organization, and 10% butt jokes
TheEyeOfNight- "Ordo Xenos reports that the Necrons have attained democracy, kamikaze tendencies, and nuclear fission. It's all tits up, sir."
Space Marine flyers are shaped for the greatest possible air resistance so that the air may never defeat the SPACE MARINES!
Sternguard though, those guys are all about kicking ass. They'd chew bubble gum as well, but bubble gum is heretical. Only tau chew gum
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2016/06/30 21:16:46
Subject: Crusade of Fury (Chat room/OOC)
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Adopted Son of the Emperor
Flailing on the beach like a beached whale. While also wearing fashionable panties.
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No, I'm just that easy to insult.
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TheEyeOfNight I swear, this thread is 70% smack talk, 20% RP organization, and 10% butt jokes.
Tactical_Spam Vanden clearly loves making sweet sweet love to his school. He is the most passionate, learning oriented individual you will ever meet.
War Kitten You should ask nicely before hitting people with your stick Vanden. We're a polite society after all.
2BlackJack1 Snow is great though. Snowmen, snowball fights, frostbite, snow forts, what's not to love?
Kharne the Befriender It's just the smug look of eternal irony while you wait for Creed to pull out his Baneblade so you can steal it.
War Kitten I love how this has gone from a deathly serious war to a discussion about how Vanden is secretly a whale wearing panties. Welcome to the Crusade of Fury.
Irishpeacockz Well this crusade will be endless then as I imagine Vandan has a large collection of inflatables lying around
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2016/06/30 21:16:56
Subject: Re:Crusade of Fury (Chat room/OOC)
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Violent Space Marine Dedicated to Khorne
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When a ship is travelling through the warp... what's that called? Hyperspace? Inter-space? Warp Space?
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War Kitten You haven't seen anything yet. Stick around for a few weeks and you'll see some things that'll make you question all you know about life, love, and 40k. Such as a Gargant being beheaded by a flying Battle Barge |
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2016/06/30 21:18:20
Subject: Crusade of Fury (Chat room/OOC)
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Ultramarine Master with Gauntlets of Macragge
What's left of Cadia
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Sgt. Vanden wrote:No, I'm just that easy to insult.
Tomato, Tomahto.
Gore Grandpa wrote:When a ship is travelling through the warp... what's that called? Hyperspace? Inter-space? Warp Space?
Warp-Space probably. Or just traveling through the Warp.
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TheEyeOfNight- I swear, this thread is 70% smack talk, 20% RP organization, and 10% butt jokes
TheEyeOfNight- "Ordo Xenos reports that the Necrons have attained democracy, kamikaze tendencies, and nuclear fission. It's all tits up, sir."
Space Marine flyers are shaped for the greatest possible air resistance so that the air may never defeat the SPACE MARINES!
Sternguard though, those guys are all about kicking ass. They'd chew bubble gum as well, but bubble gum is heretical. Only tau chew gum
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2016/06/30 21:18:37
Subject: Crusade of Fury (Chat room/OOC)
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Adopted Son of the Emperor
Flailing on the beach like a beached whale. While also wearing fashionable panties.
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Traveling the Immaterium?
Warp Jump?
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TheEyeOfNight I swear, this thread is 70% smack talk, 20% RP organization, and 10% butt jokes.
Tactical_Spam Vanden clearly loves making sweet sweet love to his school. He is the most passionate, learning oriented individual you will ever meet.
War Kitten You should ask nicely before hitting people with your stick Vanden. We're a polite society after all.
2BlackJack1 Snow is great though. Snowmen, snowball fights, frostbite, snow forts, what's not to love?
Kharne the Befriender It's just the smug look of eternal irony while you wait for Creed to pull out his Baneblade so you can steal it.
War Kitten I love how this has gone from a deathly serious war to a discussion about how Vanden is secretly a whale wearing panties. Welcome to the Crusade of Fury.
Irishpeacockz Well this crusade will be endless then as I imagine Vandan has a large collection of inflatables lying around
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2016/06/30 21:19:31
Subject: Re:Crusade of Fury (Chat room/OOC)
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Violent Space Marine Dedicated to Khorne
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Warp-space sounds good, thanks, Almost done
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War Kitten You haven't seen anything yet. Stick around for a few weeks and you'll see some things that'll make you question all you know about life, love, and 40k. Such as a Gargant being beheaded by a flying Battle Barge |
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2016/06/30 21:22:31
Subject: Crusade of Fury (Chat room/OOC)
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Storm Trooper with Maglight
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I am working out the marines should enter right now.
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"We have all and none. Death better come to the other bastard first." - SSG Alton, 19th Valerian Light Infantry Regiment 
"With iron and fire the beast shall be lain low at the hands of the Hunters whose home is under the Bloodmoon." - Bloodmoon Hunters Chapter 
"Bring on the Angels of Blood and Darkness as thy descend from the heavens to smite our enemies. Let the Wolves of war rend and tear our foes to pieces. And we of the Bloodmoon Hunters shall bring the iron and fire as our vehicles crush all that oppose us under our treads." - Tech-Captain of the Bloodmoon Hunters 
My 40k Armies:
 Bloodmoon Hunters (Iron Hands Successors)
 Lunar Venatorii Regiments (Astra Miltarium)
Mjior Prime Expediton (Skitarii/Admech)
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2016/06/30 21:23:58
Subject: Crusade of Fury (Chat room/OOC)
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Adopted Son of the Emperor
Flailing on the beach like a beached whale. While also wearing fashionable panties.
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At least there'll be less of them xD
I swear to god if you bring in the entire chapter...
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TheEyeOfNight I swear, this thread is 70% smack talk, 20% RP organization, and 10% butt jokes.
Tactical_Spam Vanden clearly loves making sweet sweet love to his school. He is the most passionate, learning oriented individual you will ever meet.
War Kitten You should ask nicely before hitting people with your stick Vanden. We're a polite society after all.
2BlackJack1 Snow is great though. Snowmen, snowball fights, frostbite, snow forts, what's not to love?
Kharne the Befriender It's just the smug look of eternal irony while you wait for Creed to pull out his Baneblade so you can steal it.
War Kitten I love how this has gone from a deathly serious war to a discussion about how Vanden is secretly a whale wearing panties. Welcome to the Crusade of Fury.
Irishpeacockz Well this crusade will be endless then as I imagine Vandan has a large collection of inflatables lying around
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2016/06/30 21:24:47
Subject: Crusade of Fury (Chat room/OOC)
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Ultramarine Master with Gauntlets of Macragge
What's left of Cadia
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 Sgt. Vanden wrote:At least there'll be less of them xD
I swear to god if you bring in the entire chapter...
That would be incredibly amusing, if only to watch the collective gakking-in-their-pants moment that the Chaos players would have
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TheEyeOfNight- I swear, this thread is 70% smack talk, 20% RP organization, and 10% butt jokes
TheEyeOfNight- "Ordo Xenos reports that the Necrons have attained democracy, kamikaze tendencies, and nuclear fission. It's all tits up, sir."
Space Marine flyers are shaped for the greatest possible air resistance so that the air may never defeat the SPACE MARINES!
Sternguard though, those guys are all about kicking ass. They'd chew bubble gum as well, but bubble gum is heretical. Only tau chew gum
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2016/06/30 21:30:20
Subject: Crusade of Fury (Chat room/OOC)
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Adopted Son of the Emperor
Flailing on the beach like a beached whale. While also wearing fashionable panties.
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I don't think any of the GM's would approve. I think the limit is like...200 marines and about 4-5K Guard, but thats at the far scale. I think 100 Marines and 2-3K Guard seem more appropriate.
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TheEyeOfNight I swear, this thread is 70% smack talk, 20% RP organization, and 10% butt jokes.
Tactical_Spam Vanden clearly loves making sweet sweet love to his school. He is the most passionate, learning oriented individual you will ever meet.
War Kitten You should ask nicely before hitting people with your stick Vanden. We're a polite society after all.
2BlackJack1 Snow is great though. Snowmen, snowball fights, frostbite, snow forts, what's not to love?
Kharne the Befriender It's just the smug look of eternal irony while you wait for Creed to pull out his Baneblade so you can steal it.
War Kitten I love how this has gone from a deathly serious war to a discussion about how Vanden is secretly a whale wearing panties. Welcome to the Crusade of Fury.
Irishpeacockz Well this crusade will be endless then as I imagine Vandan has a large collection of inflatables lying around
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2016/06/30 21:34:23
Subject: Crusade of Fury (Chat room/OOC)
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Ultramarine Master with Gauntlets of Macragge
What's left of Cadia
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Sgt. Vanden wrote:I don't think any of the GM's would approve. I think the limit is like...200 marines and about 4-5K Guard, but thats at the far scale. I think 100 Marines and 2-3K Guard seem more appropriate.
My Guard are like 2.5k strong I think.
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TheEyeOfNight- I swear, this thread is 70% smack talk, 20% RP organization, and 10% butt jokes
TheEyeOfNight- "Ordo Xenos reports that the Necrons have attained democracy, kamikaze tendencies, and nuclear fission. It's all tits up, sir."
Space Marine flyers are shaped for the greatest possible air resistance so that the air may never defeat the SPACE MARINES!
Sternguard though, those guys are all about kicking ass. They'd chew bubble gum as well, but bubble gum is heretical. Only tau chew gum
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2016/06/30 21:42:12
Subject: Crusade of Fury (Chat room/OOC)
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Storm Trooper with Maglight
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Do you guys honestly think I would bring a full Chapter? I am not Jhes Wolves. I have a surprise in store with my Marines but they are technically only a Company.
The proper force name is: 2nd Tech Company of the Bloodmoon Hunters Chapter. They were brought into system by a strike cruiser and they couldn't care about the Choas folk as much. They are xeno tech collectors.
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"We have all and none. Death better come to the other bastard first." - SSG Alton, 19th Valerian Light Infantry Regiment
"With iron and fire the beast shall be lain low at the hands of the Hunters whose home is under the Bloodmoon." - Bloodmoon Hunters Chapter
"Bring on the Angels of Blood and Darkness as thy descend from the heavens to smite our enemies. Let the Wolves of war rend and tear our foes to pieces. And we of the Bloodmoon Hunters shall bring the iron and fire as our vehicles crush all that oppose us under our treads." - Tech-Captain of the Bloodmoon Hunters
My 40k Armies:
Bloodmoon Hunters (Iron Hands Successors)
Lunar Venatorii Regiments (Astra Miltarium)
Mjior Prime Expediton (Skitarii/Admech)
Ordo Machinum (Inquisition) |
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2016/06/30 21:45:10
Subject: Re:Crusade of Fury (Chat room/OOC)
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Pestilent Plague Marine with Blight Grenade
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Right my piece is up, im quite happy with it if I am honest well the first part more than the second
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Sgt. Vanden I bet Irish can do that by flashing his bear chest.
Sgt. Vanden Irish is the definition of a Dutch oven
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2016/06/30 21:45:51
Subject: Crusade of Fury (Chat room/OOC)
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Ultramarine Master with Gauntlets of Macragge
What's left of Cadia
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 Drakka77 wrote:Do you guys honestly think I would bring a full Chapter? I am not Jhes Wolves. I have a surprise in store with my Marines but they are technically only a Company.
The proper force name is: 2nd Tech Company of the Bloodmoon Hunters Chapter. They were brought into system by a strike cruiser and they couldn't care about the Choas folk as much. They are xeno tech collectors.
So you'll be REALLY interested in my Eldar then? We actually don't have too many Xenos in this Crusade. Mostly Orks, with a sprinkling of Eldar, some "Nids and 'Crons and Kharne's Tarellians.
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TheEyeOfNight- I swear, this thread is 70% smack talk, 20% RP organization, and 10% butt jokes
TheEyeOfNight- "Ordo Xenos reports that the Necrons have attained democracy, kamikaze tendencies, and nuclear fission. It's all tits up, sir."
Space Marine flyers are shaped for the greatest possible air resistance so that the air may never defeat the SPACE MARINES!
Sternguard though, those guys are all about kicking ass. They'd chew bubble gum as well, but bubble gum is heretical. Only tau chew gum
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2016/06/30 21:47:10
Subject: Crusade of Fury (Chat room/OOC)
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Adopted Son of the Emperor
Flailing on the beach like a beached whale. While also wearing fashionable panties.
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Drakka77 wrote:Do you guys honestly think I would bring a full Chapter? I am not Jhes Wolves. I have a surprise in store with my Marines but they are technically only a Company.
Jhe only has like, two companies.
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TheEyeOfNight I swear, this thread is 70% smack talk, 20% RP organization, and 10% butt jokes.
Tactical_Spam Vanden clearly loves making sweet sweet love to his school. He is the most passionate, learning oriented individual you will ever meet.
War Kitten You should ask nicely before hitting people with your stick Vanden. We're a polite society after all.
2BlackJack1 Snow is great though. Snowmen, snowball fights, frostbite, snow forts, what's not to love?
Kharne the Befriender It's just the smug look of eternal irony while you wait for Creed to pull out his Baneblade so you can steal it.
War Kitten I love how this has gone from a deathly serious war to a discussion about how Vanden is secretly a whale wearing panties. Welcome to the Crusade of Fury.
Irishpeacockz Well this crusade will be endless then as I imagine Vandan has a large collection of inflatables lying around
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2016/06/30 21:47:28
Subject: Crusade of Fury (Chat room/OOC)
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Ultramarine Librarian with Freaky Familiar
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Well, I might be looking to bring a second faction in. I'm still debating.
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They/them
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2016/06/30 21:48:34
Subject: Crusade of Fury (Chat room/OOC)
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Storm Trooper with Maglight
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A wolf grand company is just under the size of a chapter.
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"We have all and none. Death better come to the other bastard first." - SSG Alton, 19th Valerian Light Infantry Regiment
"With iron and fire the beast shall be lain low at the hands of the Hunters whose home is under the Bloodmoon." - Bloodmoon Hunters Chapter
"Bring on the Angels of Blood and Darkness as thy descend from the heavens to smite our enemies. Let the Wolves of war rend and tear our foes to pieces. And we of the Bloodmoon Hunters shall bring the iron and fire as our vehicles crush all that oppose us under our treads." - Tech-Captain of the Bloodmoon Hunters
My 40k Armies:
Bloodmoon Hunters (Iron Hands Successors)
Lunar Venatorii Regiments (Astra Miltarium)
Mjior Prime Expediton (Skitarii/Admech)
Ordo Machinum (Inquisition) |
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2016/06/30 21:48:55
Subject: Crusade of Fury (Chat room/OOC)
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Ultramarine Master with Gauntlets of Macragge
What's left of Cadia
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 Sgt_Smudge wrote:Well, I might be looking to bring a second faction in. I'm still debating.
Please for the love of the Emperor let it either be Imperial, or some faction who would be willing enough to fight alongside us, we need help at Cogger desperately
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TheEyeOfNight- I swear, this thread is 70% smack talk, 20% RP organization, and 10% butt jokes
TheEyeOfNight- "Ordo Xenos reports that the Necrons have attained democracy, kamikaze tendencies, and nuclear fission. It's all tits up, sir."
Space Marine flyers are shaped for the greatest possible air resistance so that the air may never defeat the SPACE MARINES!
Sternguard though, those guys are all about kicking ass. They'd chew bubble gum as well, but bubble gum is heretical. Only tau chew gum
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2016/06/30 21:50:08
Subject: Re:Crusade of Fury (Chat room/OOC)
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Violent Space Marine Dedicated to Khorne
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I should have my post up in about 5 minutes, I hope you guys don't mind a royal Chaos Lord and an insane Exalted Champion
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War Kitten You haven't seen anything yet. Stick around for a few weeks and you'll see some things that'll make you question all you know about life, love, and 40k. Such as a Gargant being beheaded by a flying Battle Barge |
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2016/06/30 21:51:27
Subject: Re:Crusade of Fury (Chat room/OOC)
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Ultramarine Master with Gauntlets of Macragge
What's left of Cadia
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Gore Grandpa wrote:I should have my post up in about 5 minutes, I hope you guys don't mind a royal Chaos Lord and an insane Exalted Champion
I briefly toyed with doing a Khornate Warband of fallen "Knights". Essentially, they would be Space Marines who have had a code of honor, one that was twisted by their fall to Chaos. So your guys will fit in just fine.
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TheEyeOfNight- I swear, this thread is 70% smack talk, 20% RP organization, and 10% butt jokes
TheEyeOfNight- "Ordo Xenos reports that the Necrons have attained democracy, kamikaze tendencies, and nuclear fission. It's all tits up, sir."
Space Marine flyers are shaped for the greatest possible air resistance so that the air may never defeat the SPACE MARINES!
Sternguard though, those guys are all about kicking ass. They'd chew bubble gum as well, but bubble gum is heretical. Only tau chew gum
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2016/06/30 21:52:07
Subject: Crusade of Fury (Chat room/OOC)
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Adopted Son of the Emperor
Flailing on the beach like a beached whale. While also wearing fashionable panties.
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I have a feeling we shouldn't speculate until he comes and says how many.
But I don't think it's that many Wolves.
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TheEyeOfNight I swear, this thread is 70% smack talk, 20% RP organization, and 10% butt jokes.
Tactical_Spam Vanden clearly loves making sweet sweet love to his school. He is the most passionate, learning oriented individual you will ever meet.
War Kitten You should ask nicely before hitting people with your stick Vanden. We're a polite society after all.
2BlackJack1 Snow is great though. Snowmen, snowball fights, frostbite, snow forts, what's not to love?
Kharne the Befriender It's just the smug look of eternal irony while you wait for Creed to pull out his Baneblade so you can steal it.
War Kitten I love how this has gone from a deathly serious war to a discussion about how Vanden is secretly a whale wearing panties. Welcome to the Crusade of Fury.
Irishpeacockz Well this crusade will be endless then as I imagine Vandan has a large collection of inflatables lying around
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2016/06/30 21:53:25
Subject: Crusade of Fury (Chat room/OOC)
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Pestilent Plague Marine with Blight Grenade
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What ? Perhaps i was wrong then is it the 13th great company ?
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Sgt. Vanden I bet Irish can do that by flashing his bear chest.
Sgt. Vanden Irish is the definition of a Dutch oven
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2016/06/30 21:54:13
Subject: Re:Crusade of Fury (Chat room/OOC)
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Violent Space Marine Dedicated to Khorne
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Fething Double posts 
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War Kitten You haven't seen anything yet. Stick around for a few weeks and you'll see some things that'll make you question all you know about life, love, and 40k. Such as a Gargant being beheaded by a flying Battle Barge |
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2016/06/30 21:54:52
Subject: Crusade of Fury (Chat room/OOC)
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Ultramarine Master with Gauntlets of Macragge
What's left of Cadia
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No, they're really not that big. A Space Wolf Grand Company is just a bit bigger than a regular SM company. I think about 120-130 men strong is typical for a SW company
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TheEyeOfNight- I swear, this thread is 70% smack talk, 20% RP organization, and 10% butt jokes
TheEyeOfNight- "Ordo Xenos reports that the Necrons have attained democracy, kamikaze tendencies, and nuclear fission. It's all tits up, sir."
Space Marine flyers are shaped for the greatest possible air resistance so that the air may never defeat the SPACE MARINES!
Sternguard though, those guys are all about kicking ass. They'd chew bubble gum as well, but bubble gum is heretical. Only tau chew gum
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