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And TS has been usurped.

ALL HAIL THE DARK MIND-FETHER EZRA!

 Sgt. Vanden wrote:
And TS has been usurped.

ALL HAIL THE DARK MIND-FETHER EZRA!

And you assume I am not behind Ezra like an insidious puppet master?

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Sgt. Vanden wrote:
And TS has been usurped.

ALL HAIL THE DARK MIND-FETHER EZRA!

And you assume I am not behind Ezra like an insidious puppet master?

Nope. Even if that was the case, the puppet suddenly controls the puppet-master.

Plus your styles are totally off.

Finally wrapped up Cogger Hive.

And Chazz is the first one to sneak inna naughty. Well played.

I should focus more on the story shouldn't I?

well given ive been told my viking alcoholics have been missed. and all.

can you catch me up on things?
i dropped out due to work fething me over, so so much,.

HOORAY!

Okay, so Orks have teamed up with the blue-skins
Smudge seems to be controlling the rebels, and as of now, he's attacking New Pavus. Whereever the feth that is.
I'm doing feth-all.
WK Seems to be doing feth-all cause he fethed his computer(up) too much.
Kharne is ramming the Gargant.
We got a new kid called GorePa, who is Khorney for the booty, and he's shelling a city or something.
We got another new kid called...Uhh...I forgot, but he has a cavalry regiment, who is helping to beat the gak out of(Beaten, actually) the Cogger Hive Cultists. CHC. I like that name.
Umm...TS has lost his throne to Ezra.
Ezra is celebrating his victory by mind-fething us even harder.
BlackJack is still writing up the Gargant piece(I'M NEXT! YAY!)
Chazz's inqueersitor is doing some sp00ky gak at Cogger.
Evergreen learnt how to swim.
Kharnes Necrons left.
Kharne now has giant lizard people.
Irish has Nurgle doods now.
Irish's Nurgle doods smell bad.
Liek really bad.
I'm a little drunk.
And I think that's it.
OH! THE OTHER NEW KIDS NAME IS DRAKKA!
And my guys got remaned to 'Stone Wardens'. So if I hear anybody say that other fething awful namea gain, Ill fething gut em

And so finally Hive Cogger has come to an end, but what about Father Lazarus? And the Dragon ? Is the chaos alliance still intact ? Something tells me this is only the beginning

Edit: Forget to praise Chazz's awesome writing, Bravo Sir !

Dear God, I was gone for so long that Chazz wrapped up Cogger.....

 Sgt. Vanden wrote:
Umm...TS has lost his throne to Ezra.

I'm going to make Ewryht'eikl pimp hand every single one of your Astartes.


Edit: It is now time to go into Cogger.

I'm going to make Ewryht'eikl pimp hand every single one of your Astartes.

They'll be dead before you get to them

I just caught up with the CoF SS, and I'm impressed by you guys. And Chazz, Archarus' appearance was awesome, I'm glad the dirty (not so) little traitor got his name around.

Well, I do have to say that the latest writing is well done. A few things I'd like to point out, though.


1: We "wrapped up hive cogger" with an inquisition and imperial guard vs. cultists fight? Weren't there a ton of other factions in there? Let's count, shall we?


Defending forces: TEoN's cultists, Kharne's Necrons/lizard mercs, Irish's plague zombies, and Ezra's chaos marines (not sure how many were there, so may have made an actual difference.)


Attacking forces: Chazz's Inquisition/penal legion, Drakka's dragon mounted dudes, and WK's air forces.


Third party forces: WK's eldar.


In the end we had: Chazz's guys basking in the limelight as they bashed though loads of cultists, Irish's guys made a tiny cameo as sickly looking cultists that promptly got gunned down, Drakka’s leader, Raven, was given a cameo, but that’s about it. Also I've seen neither hide nor hair of the necrons or their lizard friends. Ezra's marines are a mystery as well. So how in the world did this battle end like this? Wouldn't the defenders, I don't know, defend? I know a hive is a big place, but if all combat is coming to a head and ending in a giant battle that "resolves" the whole hive's conflict, wouldn't, I don’t know, ALL the forces be there to fight?


2 (and the thing I'm most upset about): TheEyeOfNight didn't know anything about this.


At all.


I texted him, and he's still swamped in finals. He had no clue that his forces just got wiped out until I told him. I don't know about you guys, but if I'm going to fight someone's faction, I'm going to communicate with them. Ask Smudge. Ask Chazz. If I'm even talking to your guys, I make sure you can see the post, and edit it if you want to. It's effecting your characters, and you should at least know what's going on, and have a say in how they are portrayed. Even if it takes a while for your life to calm down, I want to still talk to you about it first.


But this?


Literally skewering one of TEoNs main guys and smashing his face in without him even knowing? Destroying his faction's stronghold without him knowing? Possibly destroying his entire faction? Would YOU feel good about one of your main characters getting killed, and not even being able to state what their final words were? I mean, really, “I will be with you soon, four fathers. I pray I served you well.” Sure that sounds nice and all, but that's not TEoN speaking. That's Chazz.


Seriously. I expected better from you. You don’t go destroying someone’s characters without their consent. And you DEFINITELY don’t go doing it without them knowing about it.


And then there is the issue of what looked to be a very interesting, and drawn out, conflict (one in which any side could win), turned into a glory-fest for the grey knights and co.


I would be upset if any player did this, but it being one of the GAME MASTERS? Really, you need to be better than this. I know I’m too late for this crusade, but maybe, just maybe, game masters shouldn’t have their own factions. Because, I’m having a hard time believing that it’s all just coincidence that it just so happened that it was the grey knights that just so happened to be lead by Chazz, one of the two GMs here, were the ones that lead the way to spotlight filled victory.


A victory that ignored most of the other ruinous factions at play, and was written and posted before TheEyeOfNight actually got to look at any of it.


Did any of you guys, the ones that actually have forces there, know more about this sudden victory? Or did nobody tell you either, that the battle was just about to be “won” with one single post, despite the fact that opposing factions were still doing things here.

This seems awfully underhanded, if you ask me.

Sorry for everyone else. I’m not the kind of guy that starts drama. Usually I’m allergic to it. But you don’t do this to my friends, and expect me to just sit still about it and not say anything.

Okay, I think Chazz needs to delete the post and remake it accordingly. Seems only fair after successfully flooring EoN without him even knowing he was going to fight. I agree with Palleus 100%, that GM's should NOT have the right to just post a giant, and overly pivotal piece without EVERYBODY involved knowing where they stand/giving rolls. When BJ first PM'd me, or I PM'd him, I don't remember which one, he specifically ASKED if I wanted anyone dead/injured. I feel as though Chazz has to do the same, so I think, if I can speak for myself, think that the post should be redacted until the proper time to repost it.

Low move, but ultimately a mistake. People do those all the time. Now lets all be civil about this before the CoF thread becomes a war-zone, okay?

[Nevermind, just stirring the pot, don't mind this.]

Spoilered for more pot stirring, but I think I am not the only one who is thinking it.

I've been busy lately, so I knew nothing about what happened at Cogger. I would think my Eldar would do something while Cogger is exploding. Just because I've been having comp issues doesn't mean me (or my forces) are dead

Half way through page 4 after taking a break from the Panther Claws chapter and I was wondering if there was any chance of me still being accepted into the CoF2 Campaign or should I reapply?

I think we should take this argument elsewhere, so that we don't scare off any other people.

Of course you will be accepted. Just PM TS, 2BJ, or Chazz with a brief description of your forces, where you will deploy, and they will get back to you when they can.

Well, I messaged chazz but no response back so I was going to reapply with my Mongrels. However, I was wondering where the biggest conflict is happening with Chaos?

No matter what, PM TS so he can edit the first page roster. Then decide if you'll want to be on the moons or on Crion, I'm in charge of the moons, and Chazz is on charge of Crion.

What's the situation on Moon 2 with all those Chaos forces being present?

 Sgt. Vanden wrote:
I think we should take this argument elsewhere, so that we don't scare off any other people.

Sounds good to me.

Hive Cogger is a giant mosh pit between Imperials on one side with necrons and chaos on the other, with Eldar as a third party. I would wake before hopping in there, because of recent events, I believe we should let Chazz get a chance to defend himself before we alter that landscape even more.

Gore Grandpa has a khornate warband on the loose on Moon 2 as well that you can go after for the time being, no other Imperial has went after him so far and he's been quite destructive.

Do I need to take over the GMing again? I get really anal about people knowing what they need to know.

TL;DR Chazz killed off one of EoN's main dudes and completely routed the chaos forces in Cogger without anybody elses know-how apparently.

Got a spot for our discussion here:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/698640.page#8820197

Off to sleep right now, so not much discussing for me at the moment.

Cheers Pal. Lets hope Chazz can come up and explain his reasoning.

'Till then, Night Palleus!

I have to say that I was putting some time into writing my re-entry, but seeing that little event, I'm not exactly keen...
I was already unhappy that Chazz killed non combat characters (Histans) way back at the start. I went with it at the time, because he was clearly putting a lot of effort in. But it does seem plot progression trump what players want.

Hi btw.

I myself wasn't that happy that I A, lost a veteran, and B, that my Chaplain who has been a Chaplain for 4 centuries, and a battle brother/initiate for another 1 century, had no idea what a "Grey Knight" was.

But hey, I thought it was a once off, so I rolled with it.

Also hello.





EDIT: I may or may not have just gotten it locked...Whoops.
In my defense, Peregrine is a witch.

I have to admit, while reading Chazz's post, I kept thinking "Where the feth is everyone else?" too. If EoN had agreed to this, I might have said that it was probably part of some yet-unknown master plan, but knowing that he did not...

However, let's not be too hasty about nuking Chazz's post either. There's still time to salvage this situation in a way that everyone (hopefully) finds satisfactory. Chazz obviously put a lot of work in his post, and it'd be a shame if he had to delete the entire post.

Personally, I'd go for the following: leave Chazz's post as it is, but make it clear that it is a dream/vision Alenko has prior to the final battle at Hive Cogger. I know it isn't ideal - retconning a post in that way is something I wouldn't do lightly - but I believe here it can actually make sense.

For example, Alenko reciting poetry with Captain Kid, kissing her and then spending the night with her, charging into a defensive position and emerging completely unscathed, killing the Chaos Champion and ruining the ritual, essentially saving the day almost by himself, getting cheers and applause from everyone... am I the only one who looks at that and goes: "and then he woke up"?

Of course, that doesn't account for everything. How would he know about the Khornate daemon, what the Grey Knights were doing, etcetera? How would he know what the ritual entails, or how the Chaos Champion looks like? It could be small visions, with any holes in the story filled up by his imagination. A daemon of Khorne manifesting in real-space must have some effect on its surroundings, so why not have Alenko catch a glimpse of him in his dream?

I know it isn't a perfect solution, but we should at least consider it. A complete re-write or deletion of the post will probably only put off Chazz from writing for it again, which I don't think anyone wants either.

TL;DR: Keep calm and let's fix this without BLAM'ing one another. Also, dreams explain everything. Because mind-fething.

Also, hi Buttery, long time no see

 2BlackJack1 wrote:
Hive Cogger is a giant mosh pit between Imperials on one side with necrons and chaos on the other, with Eldar as a third party. I would wake before hopping in there, because of recent events, I believe we should let Chazz get a chance to defend himself before we alter that landscape even more.

Gore Grandpa has a khornate warband on the loose on Moon 2 as well that you can go after for the time being, no other Imperial has went after him so far and he's been quite destructive.

Thanks 2BJ

I am quite surprised to find this.

Well I will begin by saying that EON did know that I was killing off Mordecai we had discussed both at the very beginning of Cogger Hive and shortly before I wrote the final pieces. Here all the PMs I can't find the initial message from EON about wanting to kill off Mordecai but I have the messages I sent him before I wrote the piece.

From me to EON



EON to me regarding that message



Your also speaking as if I had compeltly destroyed his forces, the bulk of the Flayed Legions (and the rest of his characters) went to the mountains to where the dragon is. The flayed legion is alive and well.

Additionally I didn't leverage any special GM power to win Cogger Hive I rolled for it with Black Jack same as everyone else. I've attempted this roll plenty of times already and failed it until now.

As for not mentioning the Eldar, Necrons, other guardsmen there was simply too much to cover. I spent a huge chunk of time finding a way to wrap up Cogger Hive, I wanted to give the other forces more screen time but it simply isn't easy to accommodate so many player created characters and factions into a single short story. I regreted this and was hoping the other players would write their own forces perspective for themselves. It was not intended as a slight to the players in any way shape or form.

Now normally I would seek the other player's final approval before posting such a big portion but it was like 3AM, I had been writing this piece for like eight hours straight and was actually very excited to post it as I had worked fairly hard on it was eager to advance the Cogger Hive story line. I admit that was my bad. However I had no malice, I never intended to go against EON wishes (Especially as I had gotten his approval, or at least I thought I had it.)

TLDR

EON should have know I would be killing Mordecai, if he didn't I apologies for a lack/ failure of communication. I also apologies for not sending EON a copy for final evaluation, that was just me getting excited. The other forces were not mentioned for simple reasoning of not knowing how they would fit into the final battle. I am will not delete my post, but I am willing to accept suggestions from EON on how he would wish Mordecai and the flayed legion to be portrayed.

I have since the beginning of the Crusade of Fury two tried my best to be a fair and balanced GM. I have tried to serve you all to the best of my abilities and in honesty feel hurt that you would accuse me of being deceitful and malicious. I have attempted to make for you a forum of fun and engaging story telling, and part of that means bad things happening to characters. I have devoted a great deal of time and energy into running this, but if you all truly feel I have failed you as a GM then I will step down and allow another to take my place.

(I would recommend Smudge for GM. He's fair and has a talent for it)