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So i went on GW and the general price for codex looks like $80
I remember them being $20 wtf

Is it possible to get these not in hard back or cheaper version. Damn gw you make it sooooo hard to want to enjoy your products...

 Suspicious Pancake wrote:
So i went on GW and the general price for codex looks like $80
I remember them being $20 wtf

Is it possible to get these not in hard back or cheaper version. Damn gw you make it sooooo hard to want to enjoy your products...

What codex are you looking at? The new Tau codex is $50.

He's probably on the Australian site.

This seems to happen fortnightly on this site. Why on earth is GW's website so good at kicking you into the wrong region?

 jonolikespie wrote:
This seems to happen fortnightly on this site. Why on earth is GW's website so good at kicking you into the wrong region?

They feed off of the pain and dismay that you feel at seeing the high prices.

Or conversely it feeds on the momentary hope when it boot an Aussie into the UK or US site for an army they don't play but are thinking about.

He could also be looking at Mont'Ka or Kauyon, given that they're 125 each over here, that'd put them at around 80 or so US wouldn't it?

 jonolikespie wrote:
This seems to happen fortnightly on this site. Why on earth is GW's website so good at kicking you into the wrong region?

At this point it would feel wrong if it didn't happen every fortnight.

Even 50$ or 39€ is too much for a codex.

I remember when I complained that they cost 14 bucks.

Oh how I regret that now.

I was looking at the necron codex i could have sworn it was USD currency.

A dollar sign is still a dollar sign, regardless of whether its US or Australian dollars. The Necron codex is $49.50 US and $83 Australian

Yeah, even in the UK the codex price is way too high, especially the new ones like the Space Marine and Dark Angels one. The print and finished quality is undoubtedly superb so no complaints there, but seriously, around 30 UK pounds for a book?!!!

Fair enough if some people have no problem paying over the odds for a fancy pants hardback glossy book, but a lot of us would just settle for a cheap paperback, a codex in a similar format to the small rulebook you can get in the Dark Vengeance set and a fraction of the price of the hardback ones.

I remember too OP. When I first started WHFB my Skaven army book was £12. When it was updated the price had increased to £15 and my Guard codex was the same. I didnt mind paying that much for the book as it was not too extravagant.

Now they cost around £30+
No way in hell am I paying that when I can just download them for free.

I really wish GW would accept that codexes and the BRB should be loss leaders to get more people starting new armies and the game in general. Even if your looking at it from a "collectable" standpoint, people are going to be more willing to buy, build, and paint up a model if they like the fluff behind it. Trying to get started in the game is a nightmare with you needing to drop roughly $140 US on rules for a single army codex and game rule book. That's 140 before you even began to buy models.

Back in 3rd, I collected all the codexes. They were reasonably priced back then. These days I’ve got armies on the shelf that just get to collect dust due to the cost of rules. Old RT era BA and IG forces, about 50 of each. But I’m irritated enough keeping up with the basic SM codex, and recently back into Eldar. If the rules were free/reasonably priced, there are kits for the old armies I’d grab and keep them updated and viable. But as it is, I’m limiting myself to how many armies I’m keeping active. I spend far too much on rules as it is.

/grumble

I don't like the price increases but I will say that GW has increased the production values. Is it enough in my opinion, not really, but unlike the price hikes on existing models, atleast they put a bit of effort to justify it.

That said I think they are shooting themselves in the foot. Back in 5th when codexs were only 30 or so a piece, I slowly collected them all cause that wasn't a bad. Now at almost double I own a space marine codex since i wanted a physical copy and i pirated the rest. It's too much money.

I'd prefer it if GW released the bare-bones rules for free on their website and offered the Codex "premium" version in book form with the lore, artwork, model painting guide and whatnot.

 Slaphead wrote:
Yeah, even in the UK the codex price is way too high, especially the new ones like the Space Marine and Dark Angels one. The print and finished quality is undoubtedly superb so no complaints there, but seriously, around 30 UK pounds for a book?!!!

Consider you're happy to be British/American/Australian...

In France - and I guess it's the same for other non english speaking countries - codexes are like half translated, sentences are a mix of french with english words here and there, wich makes the reading uncomfortable.
I didn't buy a single codex since they stopped doing decent translations. For the price they sale them it's a shame.

Back in the good old days I'd buy every codex going.
It was good to know your enemy and I'd often be inspired to collect a small battlegroup or even full army after reading some fluff.
I think that GW really shoot themselves in the foot with pricing the codices too highly.

I remember when the CSM codex dropped as the first hardback book and I was taken aback at the price jump. Which was only like $30 or so at the time. Now they're averaging $50?

At least I haven't had to update it in two years... (Cries Internally)

 MechaEmperor7000 wrote:
I'd prefer it if GW released the bare-bones rules for free on their website and offered the Codex "premium" version in book form with the lore, artwork, model painting guide and whatnot.

This would be beautiful. I shouldn't have to pay for these recent MS Paint pages that fill the codex, or the same dull lore since 3rd Edition. A simple, streamlined codex system of just rules would be a huge gesture from GW. Which is why it is a pipe dream...

 SharkoutofWata wrote:

 MechaEmperor7000 wrote:
I'd prefer it if GW released the bare-bones rules for free on their website and offered the Codex "premium" version in book form with the lore, artwork, model painting guide and whatnot.

This would be beautiful. I shouldn't have to pay for these recent MS Paint pages that fill the codex, or the same dull lore since 3rd Edition. A simple, streamlined codex system of just rules would be a huge gesture from GW. Which is why it is a pipe dream...

Indeed. It would have made the Knights Codex a hell of a lot less of a kick to the teeth, especially how fast they released the second one after the first despite it being barely a few pages of rules.

But that would imply that GW actually cared about it's rules. Or it's customers. And we all know the day that happens is when Khorne and Tzeentch both kiss Nurgle's pimply rump.

 MechaEmperor7000 wrote:

 SharkoutofWata wrote:

 MechaEmperor7000 wrote:
I'd prefer it if GW released the bare-bones rules for free on their website and offered the Codex "premium" version in book form with the lore, artwork, model painting guide and whatnot.

This would be beautiful. I shouldn't have to pay for these recent MS Paint pages that fill the codex, or the same dull lore since 3rd Edition. A simple, streamlined codex system of just rules would be a huge gesture from GW. Which is why it is a pipe dream...

Indeed. It would have made the Knights Codex a hell of a lot less of a kick to the teeth, especially how fast they released the second one after the first despite it being barely a few pages of rules.

But that would imply that GW actually cared about it's rules. Or it's customers. And we all know the day that happens is when Khorne and Tzeentch both kiss Nurgle's pimply rump.

Ugh, that is one of the things that got me torrenting the codex's. I got fed up of purchasing something that was going to be invalidated within a few weeks.

 Minus wrote:

 Slaphead wrote:
Yeah, even in the UK the codex price is way too high, especially the new ones like the Space Marine and Dark Angels one. The print and finished quality is undoubtedly superb so no complaints there, but seriously, around 30 UK pounds for a book?!!!

Consider you're happy to be British/American/Australian...

In France - and I guess it's the same for other non english speaking countries - codexes are like half translated, sentences are a mix of french with english words here and there, wich makes the reading uncomfortable.
I didn't buy a single codex since they stopped doing decent translations. For the price they sale them it's a shame.

Consider you're happy to be French...

In Russia i haven't seen an official codex other than from starter sets like...ever.

 Minus wrote:

 Slaphead wrote:
Yeah, even in the UK the codex price is way too high, especially the new ones like the Space Marine and Dark Angels one. The print and finished quality is undoubtedly superb so no complaints there, but seriously, around 30 UK pounds for a book?!!!

Consider you're happy to be British/American/Australian...

In France - and I guess it's the same for other non english speaking countries - codexes are like half translated, sentences are a mix of french with english words here and there, wich makes the reading uncomfortable.
I didn't buy a single codex since they stopped doing decent translations. For the price they sale them it's a shame.

That's just criminal!

 master of ordinance wrote:
Ugh, that is one of the things that got me torrenting the codex's. I got fed up of purchasing something that was going to be invalidated within a few weeks.

Twice this year, I've had to break the news to players that the codex they bought a month ago is no longer the current revision.

 DanielBeaver wrote:

 master of ordinance wrote:
Ugh, that is one of the things that got me torrenting the codex's. I got fed up of purchasing something that was going to be invalidated within a few weeks.

Twice this year, I've had to break the news to players that the codex they bought a month ago is no longer the current revision.

I feel their pain. In all honesty I am not advising torrenting but a good torrent is free and only a google search away....
On a side note I have become a form of codex dealer at my local club. A very pro GW club. That should give a rough idea of just how bad things have become.

The two year cycle on the last SM and Eldar codex really gets me. (Core rules as well) When I was paying stupid prices, I could at least console myself with the fact that it should last me 4-5 years. I don’t have a problem spending cash on minis. Minis last I’m still using RT era minis, it’s not like they go stale or moldy. They are an investment that continues to reap benefits on the table. But I’ve got a whole shelf full of books that are only relevant for historical reference. Which, admittedly, I do a fair bit of. But I’d rather be painting minis with that money.

i think the quicker codex turn around is great.

I get that it sucks paying out that much, but I'm sure many of you remember how we all hated the old slow gw.

The quick money Hungry gw is actually a better guy than the ponderous, oblivious gw.

Now if only those faqs would come out faster...

eleven11 wrote:
i think the quicker codex turn around is great.

I get that it sucks paying out that much, but I'm sure many of you remember how we all hated the old slow gw.

The quick money Hungry gw is actually a better guy than the ponderous, oblivious gw.

Now if only those faqs would come out faster...

Getting everyone updated in a reasonable timeframe is a good thing. Playing with last edition’s codex is never a good thing. I think there is a happy medium somewhere though. And I agree on the FAQs. If GW wants to sell me rules as often as they do, please at least make sure they work. GW has high quality minis, and good customer service if there is a problem there. The rules side of the fence is abysmal though.

I don’t regret a penny I spend on minis, but most of the cash I spend on rules. The two year cycle is taking a toll on my will to stay active in 40k.