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 War Kitten wrote:
Who needs transport cap when you have 6 lascannons? I would certainly field one and consider it well-worth it

I need it to get Sergeant Chronos...

Okay, but is the Terminus really the most efficient and durable way to get Lascannons on the board? Pretty sure you can get almost 3 Devastator squads all with Lascannons for that price, which equates to twice as many Lascannons (with Tank Hunters to boot, Imperial Fists of course).

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
Okay, but is the Terminus really the most efficient and durable way to get Lascannons on the board? Pretty sure you can get almost 3 Devastator squads all with Lascannons for that price, which equates to twice as many Lascannons (with Tank Hunters to boot, Imperial Fists of course).

But if we are playing Apoc (which we are with unbound), then I can take the one Warzone Damnos formation where I get Tank Hunter on a squadron of Landraiders, with Chronos at the head, in a Terminus Ultra

 godardc wrote:
Why so few votes for the terminus ultra ? I like it too !
A big av14 destroying every other vehicle in the board.

Because vehicles aren't all that hard to kill in the first place. It is the MCs and GCs running around with 6 wounds and a 4++ that are hard to deal with.

I voted Crusader because of its capacity, but I am partial to the Achilles. Stuff a Techmarine and servitors in it. It will be harder than Hell to put down.

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
Okay, but is the Terminus really the most efficient and durable way to get Lascannons on the board? Pretty sure you can get almost 3 Devastator squads all with Lascannons for that price, which equates to twice as many Lascannons (with Tank Hunters to boot, Imperial Fists of course).

But if we are playing Apoc (which we are with unbound), then I can take the one Warzone Damnos formation where I get Tank Hunter on a squadron of Landraiders, with Chronos at the head, in a Terminus Ultra

OR you just run an equal amount of Imperial Fists Devastator squads...

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
Okay, but is the Terminus really the most efficient and durable way to get Lascannons on the board? Pretty sure you can get almost 3 Devastator squads all with Lascannons for that price, which equates to twice as many Lascannons (with Tank Hunters to boot, Imperial Fists of course).

But if we are playing Apoc (which we are with unbound), then I can take the one Warzone Damnos formation where I get Tank Hunter on a squadron of Landraiders, with Chronos at the head, in a Terminus Ultra

OR you just run an equal amount of Imperial Fists Devastator squads...

Devastators aren't AV14

Edit: Or BS 5 for that matter

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 War Kitten wrote:
Who needs transport cap when you have 6 lascannons? I would certainly field one and consider it well-worth it

I need it to get Sergeant Chronos...

Chronus is bought as an upgrade and takes up no capacity.

rowboatjellyfanxiii wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 War Kitten wrote:
Who needs transport cap when you have 6 lascannons? I would certainly field one and consider it well-worth it

I need it to get Sergeant Chronos...

Chronus is bought as an upgrade and takes up no capacity.

Unfortunately, Chronus cannot pilot a Terminus Ultra

If you want dakka the ultra or Achilles is the way to go. For everything else get the land raider's big brother the Spartan. Better dakka, more durable, higher transport capacity.

I wish Spartans were available as dedicated transports for all models that get land raiders as dedicated transports.

 the_Armyman wrote:

Otto Weston wrote:My vote is Prometheus.

Give it Psybolt ammunition = many S6 dakka.
It also has the great +1 to reserve rolls and reduces the cover of an enemy unit.

That would be awesome, but I don't see where in the rules that's permitted. The Prometheus has a list of upgrades it can select from in IA2, and it does not have access to the Codex: Inquisition armory.

I'm using Battlescribe and you can take the Prometheus in an Inquisitorial Army, automatically granting it access to the Inquisition Armoury.

 Otto Weston wrote:

 the_Armyman wrote:

Otto Weston wrote:My vote is Prometheus.

Give it Psybolt ammunition = many S6 dakka.
It also has the great +1 to reserve rolls and reduces the cover of an enemy unit.

That would be awesome, but I don't see where in the rules that's permitted. The Prometheus has a list of upgrades it can select from in IA2, and it does not have access to the Codex: Inquisition armory.

I'm using Battlescribe and you can take the Prometheus in an Inquisitorial Army, automatically granting it access to the Inquisition Armoury.

Wouldn't be the first time Battlescribe is wrong

Never really liked any of the landraiders, expensive, still fragile and most have crappy weapon combos.

HoundsofDemos wrote:
Never really liked any of the landraiders, expensive, still fragile and most have crappy weapon combos.

Burn the heretic!

The big problem is that normal vehicles can't split fire and land raiders only get one shot at another unit. I I could light up two vehicles with a las Cannon each plus an infantry unit with the HB and SB, it be ok.

HoundsofDemos wrote:
The big problem is that normal vehicles can't split fire and land raiders only get one shot at another unit. I I could light up two vehicles with a las Cannon each plus an infantry unit with the HB and SB, it be ok.

ARE YOU DAFT MAN? PIVOT!

 the_Armyman wrote:

 Otto Weston wrote:

 the_Armyman wrote:

Otto Weston wrote:My vote is Prometheus.

Give it Psybolt ammunition = many S6 dakka.
It also has the great +1 to reserve rolls and reduces the cover of an enemy unit.

That would be awesome, but I don't see where in the rules that's permitted. The Prometheus has a list of upgrades it can select from in IA2, and it does not have access to the Codex: Inquisition armory.

I'm using Battlescribe and you can take the Prometheus in an Inquisitorial Army, automatically granting it access to the Inquisition Armoury.

Wouldn't be the first time Battlescribe is wrong

Stahp! Don't take away my planned S6 Prometheus of Doom to summon in the Militarum Tempestus Air Cavalry Formation.

Excelsior.

To be fair I only will ever rock a Proteus.

Which isn't on the list.

 the_Armyman wrote:

rowboatjellyfanxiii wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 War Kitten wrote:
Who needs transport cap when you have 6 lascannons? I would certainly field one and consider it well-worth it

I need it to get Sergeant Chronos...

Chronus is bought as an upgrade and takes up no capacity.

Unfortunately, Chronus cannot pilot a Terminus Ultra

Except he is bought as an upgrade for ANY ONE Ultramarines tank, if it has Chapter Tactics and your Primary is smurfs, it's fair game. He can pilot any Space Marine tank he wants for 50 points.

rowboatjellyfanxiii wrote:

 the_Armyman wrote:

rowboatjellyfanxiii wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 War Kitten wrote:
Who needs transport cap when you have 6 lascannons? I would certainly field one and consider it well-worth it

I need it to get Sergeant Chronos...

Chronus is bought as an upgrade and takes up no capacity.

Unfortunately, Chronus cannot pilot a Terminus Ultra

Except he is bought as an upgrade for ANY ONE Ultramarines tank, if it has Chapter Tactics and your Primary is smurfs, it's fair game. He can pilot any Space Marine tank he wants for 50 points.

No he can pilot tanks "X, Y, Z, etc"

It says what tanks he drives

Rules for the Terminus Ultra of 4plebs



Automatically Appended Next Post:
May purchase any vehicle upgrade from the Space Marine Armoury, Chronus is an upgrade.

Chronus is not an upgrade from the Space Marine Armoury though. His entry also explicitly says what vehicles he's allowed to drive.

 Carnage43 wrote:

Kangodo wrote:

Puscifer wrote:
Fellblade?

Awesome, awesome!
It's actually classified as a tank (unlike most SHV), so that works

But can it be taken as an Ultramarine-option?
That's the problem with SHV's, even if they were tanks they still count as an IG-tank that everyone can take.

The Fellblade is a super heavy, and therefore exists "outside" the normal Ultramarine's detachment. Don't think this would fly.

A Land Raider Spartan or Achilles are about the heaviest vehicle you can jam him in, or the Terminus Ultra I suppose.

Found this.

Chronus is a SM Character, and has his own entry. He is not an option in the armory. Chronus has a specific list of vehicles he can pilot with no gray area. If you wish to debate this, take it to YMDC where we can discuss it there