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I'm more of a collector than a player nowadays and have been looking at Infinity minis to maybe collect. Why are they so expensive?(not a moan or anything) The miniature I would like to buy ranges between £26 to £31 which is eye wateringly high.
Do you actually get anything in the box aside from the mini as it seems a pretty big box?!
Any Infinity players/collectors help me out?

Wrong forum, but what models are you talking about in particular, I'm guessing TAGs (the big robots)? You just get the models. They are expensive model to model but you need far fewer than say 40k, and the quality is superb.

Well, they are metal, so don't compared them to plastic prices.

The quality of the sculpts generally blows GW out of the water.

 SilverMK2 wrote:
The quality of the sculpts generally blows GW out of the water.

Wha what???! I'm not saying the Infinity sculpts are bad, the new ones look really good in n fact. But 'blows out of the water'? I just have to comment on that. Not sure which GW sculpt was the last one you had in your hands but especially their newer sculpts are simply fantastic and insanely detailed. Can't wait until CB get to that level!

On topic, I find Infinity is actually fairly inexpensive coming from 40K, and I don't mean army vs gang. Just ordered the Gecko box the other day and I'm curious how big they'll be.

GW's sculpts are standard CAD friendly, mass production friendly messes of bloated detailing with pretty much zero thought to aesthetic. Detail for the sake of detail doesn't make a good model

 SilverMK2 wrote:
GW's sculpts are standard CAD friendly, mass production friendly messes of bloated detailing with pretty much zero thought to aesthetic. Detail for the sake of detail doesn't make a good model

Um, have you paid any attention at all to what they've been releasing for oh...the past year at least?
"Standard CAD friendly" is exactly what people are kvetching about in regards to Infinity right now.


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BlackCadian wrote:

On topic, I find Infinity is actually fairly inexpensive coming from 40K, and I don't mean army vs gang. Just ordered the Gecko box the other day and I'm curious how big they'll be.

Geckos are around the same size as a Kastelan Robot.

 Kanluwen wrote:

Um, have you paid any attention at all to what they've been releasing for oh...the past year at least?
"Standard CAD friendly" is exactly what people are kvetching about in regards to Infinity right now.

I've not been keeping up with CB's releases. Certainly happy to admit that

Have seen plenty of GW's offerings however

I own a ton of gw and cb products. The newer cb minis are very realistic. Some have a ton of detail, others have lots of blank canvas areas for paint work. Many have some annoying flash on them, and the metal makes pinning a must (not to mention large models can be a pita).

Current gw models are ridiculously detailed. I just assembled archaon lord of the apocalypse or whatever. FREAKING amazing model. Definitely a centerpiece. The new assassins, HH stuff, forgeworld character models... no one can say they are less detailed than cb... sorry I own them both and don't see it as an unbiased gamer with a plethora of games.

It all comes down to asthetics and personal preference. Someone knocking another product on anything but quality just shows bias and ignorance. Gw has a more fantasy and cartoon ish style, cb makes minis that look realistic (van zant looks awesome.... so much awesome...), which is better? Personal preference.

When speaking about quality, gw has plastic quality hands down. For resin, outlaw miniatures has the best casts with little to no miscasts or flash (way better tHan kingsom deat stuff too). Metals? I'd say that knight models has this over cb, but cb does have some nice minis and is near the top with metal quality, but they are not the best in the business.

Cb does take the cake with customer feedback, support, etc. I have never seen a company so keen to listen to and respond to feedback from it's community.

So in essence, both make great detailed models with top notch quality. Anyone who says otherwise... well prove it with facts and not bias.

I'd take issue with Knight for metals, some of their Batman stuff is pretty rough around the edges in terms of both sculpting finish and casting quality.

 455_PWR wrote:
Current gw models are ridiculously detailed.

And again, detail for the sake of detail doean't a good sculpt make.

I own them both and don't see it as an unbiased gamer with a plethora of games.

Damn... I must have forgotten my own collection of models from tens of different manufacturers when considering the difference between CB and GW's output! How silly of me!

It all comes down to asthetics and personal preference. Someone knocking another product on anything but quality just shows bias and ignorance.

Riiight... because one cannot be unbiased and knowledgable about aesthetics and design factors... in the same way that one can only have integrity when considering "quality" (however the feth one chooses to define [i]that[i]...).

Gw has a more fantasy and cartoon ish style, cb makes minis that look realistic (van zant looks awesome.... so much awesome...), which is better? Personal preference.

And in my personal experience, the quality of CB's models blows GW's efforts out the water. If that is OK with you? Can I have an opionion yer lordship?

Metals? I'd say that knight models has this over cb, but cb does have some nice minis and is near the top with metal quality, but they are not the best in the business.

For physical casting, I have had little issue with CB. Some models have come with some flash but nothing the back edge of a blade couldn't remove. I've never seen mould slip on anything I've had from them. I have a limited personal experience with them as I have a relatively small collection of CB models. I know Kan has quite a lot however and my gaming group has a few Infinity players who have never voiced complaints... similarly the online feedback has generally been positive.

Certainly I would rank them highly against other metal models that I own or have seen.

well prove it with facts and not bias.

Recalling of course that opinion is not fact?

To the OP:

If 26-32 GBP is "eye-watering high" to you, you might not be a collector after all. Not a GW-versed player, that is for sure.

It all comes down to taste and if it is worth it for you. You can find pictures of the miniatures in question on the internet, unpainted and painted to various standards. Also unboxing videos. There is no hidden cocaine in the boxes if you wanted to know that, nor have I found any diamonds, so far.

Ask yourself if you want to have it. If the answer is yes, and you are willing and able to pay the price, you go for it.
If not, either because you do not want it enough to justify that price or because you cannot/do not want to pay the price, then it is not for you.

For example, while I can see the appeal of Star Wars Sideshow figures, I am not willing to put 2-3hundred EUR/GBP into a single figure.
On the other hand, I do collect the Bandai Star Wars movie realization line (Samurai Star Wars) and have spent several hundred EUR on that last month alone.

I ridicule anyone who buys GW's Fortress of Grim Corruption (...of good taste). But there are actually people who think that it is a kewl piece of terrain and a good deal for 680 GBP.

It is all a matter of taste and personal pain threshold, really.

This is the model in question;
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Infinity-BNIB-Yu-Jing-O-Yoroi-Pilot-Bootleg-edition-/311131905301?hash=item4870e81d15:g:mSEAAOSwEppUPUy2

I find it baffling why so expensive? Is it purely down to exchange rates? When it boils down to it,it is just another 28mm model. It is a good model but price wise? not for that scale.
Will look for it at a lower price but I won't hold my breath;I'd probably drown!

That price is similar to what you'd pay in the USA. The Bootleg line is pricier than the regular Infinity line. They are meant as collector/painter pieces, IIRC. It is a fairly large piece, as are all the TAGs. Metal is not cheap.

 455_PWR wrote:
When speaking about quality, gw has plastic quality hands down. For resin, outlaw miniatures has the best casts with little to no miscasts or flash (way better tHan kingsom deat stuff too). Metals? I'd say that knight models has this over cb, but cb does have some nice minis and is near the top with metal quality, but they are not the best in the business.

I would have to disagree. Knight Models is definitely not better. Although some amazing painters have done some great work with Knight Models (I'm specifically talking Batman Miniatures) the details are way too soft. Most of the time they don't even have face masks cast on the miniatures, you have to paint them on when CB has done masks on their miniatures. The detail in Infinity compared to Knight Models is much deeper. With the amount of miniatures I've owned and bought from both, I have gotten maybe one bad cast but from Knight Models I've gotten almost double bad casts. I'm not even ordering from retailers but directly from Knight Models as well since I've mostly been collecting their newer stuff.

Unless we're talking some real early Infinity models, I don't know any Batman Miniatures that has more or better detail than an Infinity. If you have some examples, I'd love to know which ones. If I don't have them then I'll even purchase them to do side by side comparisons.

Slipstream wrote:
This is the model in question;
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Infinity-BNIB-Yu-Jing-O-Yoroi-Pilot-Bootleg-edition-/311131905301?hash=item4870e81d15:g:mSEAAOSwEppUPUy2

I find it baffling why so expensive? Is it purely down to exchange rates? When it boils down to it,it is just another 28mm model. It is a good model but price wise? not for that scale.
Will look for it at a lower price but I won't hold my breath;I'd probably drown!

It's a collector's/painter's diorama that contains a substantial proportion of an RRP £32.50 TAG model. Actual 28mm infantry blisters generally have an RRP of £7-10.

Infinity sculpts are very detailed. The metal mixture is also significantly harder, which I believe makes it more expensive(the parts however don't bend as easily in shipping so you usually have straight pieces).

Corvus Belli is also a very small company, meaning they don't have economies of scale working to their advantage.

Yeah as other have said.

Infinity basically has two types of models right now.

Game models, found under any of the faction links, they are the life blood of the company.

And Boutique models, found under Bootlegs, they are models not designed to be used in game (even if you can for most), but are made as pretty things for your shelf, and do to a slower turn over of boutique models, priced slightly higher for same amount of metal.

 Grey Templar wrote:
Infinity sculpts are very detailed. The metal mixture is also significantly harder, which I believe makes it more expensive(the parts however don't bend as easily in shipping so you usually have straight pieces).

Corvus Belli is also a very small company, meaning they don't have economies of scale working to their advantage.

The exception to confirm the rule is Yojimbo. He's carrying a Daikatana (more or less), so it's very long and very slim and it bends when you clean flash. Still love the model, though, and since it's a simple piece of the model that bends, it's easy to force back into shape.

Yeah, something that long and skinny is bound to bend. But I have yet to see a bent gun barrel, which I do love.

Slipstream wrote:
This is the model in question;
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Infinity-BNIB-Yu-Jing-O-Yoroi-Pilot-Bootleg-edition-/311131905301?hash=item4870e81d15:g:mSEAAOSwEppUPUy2

I find it baffling why so expensive? Is it purely down to exchange rates? When it boils down to it,it is just another 28mm model. It is a good model but price wise? not for that scale.
Will look for it at a lower price but I won't hold my breath;I'd probably drown!

It's a 28mm model posed on top of a 50-some mm model. Acting like this thing is the size and quality of a tactical marine is kind of ridiculous.

As others have said, regular 28mm models from Infinity sell for around $10 +/- a few online. You can get a starter box for around $40, which contains 6 models, at under $7/model.