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 Frozocrone wrote:
I don't mind guns. But they should really be genetically attached to them, not as if they are holding and firing them. Same as the Melee weapons.

I think the majority of their guns are fused.. maybe it's not enough, but I am pretty sure the left hand of most are usually non-existent, and the right hand.. is kinda a fusion of gun and wrist.

Fluff-wise they are fused, but model-wise...the Fleshborer has a hand holding the 'barrel', another pulling the trigger. Devourer has tubes of something...attached by a hand. Deathspitter...hand. The Venom Cannon looks alright, as the army is splitting in two but still, hand.

The exceptions are the TMC. Exocrine is a perfect example of what I think their guns should look like. Fused to the body.

The Exocrine's gun looks like a protruding protuberance...trying to find a suitable word here...it's fairly phallic, and it makes my wife giggle every time she sees it.

I actually kind of like the swords and claws.

The Tyranids are copycats-they use stolen genetic material and battle experience to ape and counter enemy tactics. They have arms with fingers, swords, guns, bipedal forms etc because that's what's been used against them.

I always have liked the idea of guardsmen gunning down waves of clawed hormagaunts, then the next day they show up and they're firing back with organic lasguns.

GW has/ had the potential but just kinda fooked it.

Biovores are still semi interesting on the board though.

Raveners do it best. Shooting out from their thorax.

I don't quite remember who, but someone told me that the guns that the tyranid warriors have are other creatures.

Statistics show that if you own a gun you are more likely to get shot by one. So you are right tyranids should not own guns.Take that bolter marines you can't hit us we are unarmed.


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On a more serious note.

I always liked the starship troopers plasma bugs.


If you can have those why cant you have smaller bugs that you could pick up and use to shoot stuff with.

There could even be an eventual symbiosis between the smaller and the bigger bug resulting in fused animals.


If you are more a real life example guy take a look at the bombardier beetle. If a simple earth bug can do it an tyranid swarm should be able to do it better : )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgqF-ND2XcY


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 jasper76 wrote:
IMO, some of the gun models look alot better than others. I think the Fleshborer is one of the weapons where it doesn't work so well, because it has an actual ammo magazine, and that sort of diminishes suspension of disbelief. I think most of the other weapons aren't too bad, though. Spinefists, Venom Cannons, Barbed Stanglers, etc all look a bit more bio and a bit less tech than the standard Fleshborer.

I do completely agree with this. They should not have ammo clips. Sure you could create bio ammo clips but if they look too much like guns then it just looks cheap. Are there players who just cut off all the magazines ?

Guns have the advantage of customization, that way you can add a large variety of weapons to a Tyranid creature with little modification.

All the Tyranids that use guns are basic species known for their variety (Gants, Warriors, Carnifexes, etc), meanwhile the more specialized creatures have weapons more integrated in their bodies (Biovores and Exocrines).

 jer155 wrote:
I don't quite remember who, but someone told me that the guns that the tyranid warriors have are other creatures.

Old codex. Weapon symbiotes are literally other tyranid creatures/hives grafted to the other form.

Tyranids basically grow creatures to serve specific purposes - and weapons are treated the same way.

Some Nid weapons are actually made up of a number of creatures working together.

As to Nids having lasguns: Yes, back in RT Nids had the same stock weapons that everybody else had e.g. Missile Luanchers, MultiMeltas, Powerfists etc.

Nids have had guns and melee weapons for as long as I can remember. As they now have their own distinct set of weapons it really doesn't bother me.