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2015/12/26 22:50:16
Subject: Germany activating its experimental fusion reactor. Will the fusion power plant becomes true?
Sigvatr wrote: Or any random black hole. Wooosh, it's gone!
Until it travels back in time, gets spit back out at earth and kills all life before it even evolves. I've watched enough SyFy movies to know how this ends.
2015/12/26 23:23:03
Subject: Germany activating its experimental fusion reactor. Will the fusion power plant becomes true?
Sigvatr wrote: Or any random black hole. Wooosh, it's gone!
Until it travels back in time, gets spit back out at earth and kills all life before it even evolves. I've watched enough SyFy movies to know how this ends.
There's a 2.5 mile deep gold mine in south Africa. Great secondary income for them, space is waste, fill it with nuclear waste.
What can go wrong?
Sgt. Vanden - OOC Hey, that was your doing. I didn't choose to fly in the "Dongerprise'.
"May the odds be ever in your favour"
Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
I have no clue how Dakka's moderation work. I expect it involves throwing a lot of d100 and looking at many random tables.
FudgeDumper - It could be that you are just so uncomfortable with the idea of your chapters primarch having his way with a docile tyranid spore cyst, that you must deny they have any feelings at all.
2015/12/26 23:28:15
Subject: Germany activating its experimental fusion reactor. Will the fusion power plant becomes true?
Sigvatr wrote: Or any random black hole. Wooosh, it's gone!
Until it travels back in time, gets spit back out at earth and kills all life before it even evolves. I've watched enough SyFy movies to know how this ends.
There's a 2.5 mile deep gold mine in south Africa. Great secondary income for them, space is waste, fill it with nuclear waste.
Sigvatr wrote: Or any random black hole. Wooosh, it's gone!
Until it travels back in time, gets spit back out at earth and kills all life before it even evolves. I've watched enough SyFy movies to know how this ends.
There's a 2.5 mile deep gold mine in south Africa. Great secondary income for them, space is waste, fill it with nuclear waste.
What can go wrong?
Resident Evil 4.
Wrong resident evil. Resident evil 8 or 7
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2015/12/27 00:00:08
Subject: Germany activating its experimental fusion reactor. Will the fusion power plant becomes true?
NinthMusketeer wrote: I still say load it in a rocket and shoot it into the sun. Or the moon, if you want to recover the rocket materials later.
Moon. Oh that's not a bad idea. No one to bother and we never worry about it again. Perfect!
Except, if anything happens to the rocket during take off, or in atmosphere we looking at fallout.
This might be a good use of large-scale magnetic accelerators (a.k.a. railguns). You don't need a rocket then, and there's less likelihood of the material falling back to Earth. Of course, such things are many years away yet, but dreaming of new tech eventually leads to its development in real life (just look at some of the tech from Star Trek that already exists today!). Fusion reactors are probably going to be a similar story.
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2015/12/27 06:47:12
Subject: Germany activating its experimental fusion reactor. Will the fusion power plant becomes true?
Interesting parallels about how Fukashima happened. The biggest earthquake in Japanese history didn't phase the reactor, it was the tsunami, and the fact that the builder failed to account for a tsunami the size of the one that actually occurred.
Chernobyl was a massive human failure, and was also controlled with vastly inferior understanding of the fission process, vastly inferior science and technology of the age.
The amount of radiation you get during an x-ray or MRI is vastly more than you'd get living next to a nuclear power plant for your whole life.
thats not even counting the technology behind thorium proton-beam reeactors (Essentially, unable to meltdown)
The whole point of a fusion powerplant is that its safer than fission power. We've had three or four major incidents with nuclear power plants in their history. How many worldwide affecting accidents regarding coal power, or oil power have there been. A lot more. Rig fires with massive losses. A county site in the USA abandoned because of coal seam fires.
Not to mention the massive pollution caused by coal and oil power. Fission power was always envisioned as a transitory technology to fusion and renewable energy.
2015/12/27 07:59:43
Subject: Germany activating its experimental fusion reactor. Will the fusion power plant becomes true?
jhe90 wrote: Solid waste we can bury in geologically solid stable vaults, thick granite, concrete and such.
Not impossible, just difficult and few want that near them however deep we bury it. Though a several mile deep gold mine would work!
Too deep to ever effect anyone.
It is proving difficult to find suitable burial sites, though.
2.5 miles down is deep enough that we never know it was there, miles and miles under the water tables, sealing off the last mile or so of access's with concrete and demolition charges. No one will ever see it again and the rock layer is so thick it would block it all.
Radiation would not make it to surface.
Pay south Africa a nice sum, nuclear waste gone. They need money too.
Sgt. Vanden - OOC Hey, that was your doing. I didn't choose to fly in the "Dongerprise'.
"May the odds be ever in your favour"
Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
I have no clue how Dakka's moderation work. I expect it involves throwing a lot of d100 and looking at many random tables.
FudgeDumper - It could be that you are just so uncomfortable with the idea of your chapters primarch having his way with a docile tyranid spore cyst, that you must deny they have any feelings at all.
2015/12/27 14:32:31
Subject: Germany activating its experimental fusion reactor. Will the fusion power plant becomes true?
jhe90 wrote: Solid waste we can bury in geologically solid stable vaults, thick granite, concrete and such.
Not impossible, just difficult and few want that near them however deep we bury it. Though a several mile deep gold mine would work!
Too deep to ever effect anyone.
It is proving difficult to find suitable burial sites, though.
2.5 miles down is deep enough that we never know it was there, miles and miles under the water tables, sealing off the last mile or so of access's with concrete and demolition charges. No one will ever see it again and the rock layer is so thick it would block it all.
Radiation would not make it to surface.
Pay south Africa a nice sum, nuclear waste gone. They need money too.
Exceot can we honestly trust corporations to actully follow through with proper disposal?
And dont say that we make it illegal, its been proven to not work
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2015/12/27 22:22:58
Subject: Germany activating its experimental fusion reactor. Will the fusion power plant becomes true?
jhe90 wrote: Solid waste we can bury in geologically solid stable vaults, thick granite, concrete and such.
Not impossible, just difficult and few want that near them however deep we bury it. Though a several mile deep gold mine would work!
Too deep to ever effect anyone.
It is proving difficult to find suitable burial sites, though.
2.5 miles down is deep enough that we never know it was there, miles and miles under the water tables, sealing off the last mile or so of access's with concrete and demolition charges. No one will ever see it again and the rock layer is so thick it would block it all.
Radiation would not make it to surface.
Pay south Africa a nice sum, nuclear waste gone. They need money too.
Exceot can we honestly trust corporations to actully follow through with proper disposal?
And dont say that we make it illegal, its been proven to not work
Oh. Not a fool. Disposal in the deep vault would be run by a international group based through somthing like UN, experts, all done to highest standards and laws, security etc.
A international run operations operation.
Sgt. Vanden - OOC Hey, that was your doing. I didn't choose to fly in the "Dongerprise'.
"May the odds be ever in your favour"
Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
I have no clue how Dakka's moderation work. I expect it involves throwing a lot of d100 and looking at many random tables.
FudgeDumper - It could be that you are just so uncomfortable with the idea of your chapters primarch having his way with a docile tyranid spore cyst, that you must deny they have any feelings at all.
2015/12/27 22:38:21
Subject: Germany activating its experimental fusion reactor. Will the fusion power plant becomes true?
Lone Cat wrote: ^ Radiation poisoning is still real. and AFAIK no cure is present as we speak.
That needs to change so that we can move forward. In fact as much as nuclear weaponry has prevented wars it's inevitable I think. Only so long before some psychopath decides to not play by the rules and detonates a few. We'll need some counter-measures for when that day comes. Pretty scary when nuclear war could very realistically end the world.
More on topic I think this is cool news. Those germans always were good at science. Not sure if that's still the case but those guys were basically winning all the science nobel prizes in the early to mid-20th century.
Breotan wrote: The problem with fusion is that it takes more money and energy to cause atoms to fuse than we get back out of the process.
Experimental reactors have already put out more energy than it took to start the fusion process, so now it's an issue of increasing output and reducing the exorbitant price tag of the reactor.
The main problem is getting a reactor to perpetuate. Most fire ups last less than a minute, and not by design.
Fusion will put out more electrical power than is placed in easily enough, but powering a rector for 40 seconds or so isn't going to solve power problems.
Fusion is a technology that has been 'a decade from producing results since the 50's, and frankly not much progress has been made. Nevertheless first world science has a duty to the human race to keep trying and trying with this one.
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2015/12/28 07:41:46
Subject: Germany activating its experimental fusion reactor. Will the fusion power plant becomes true?
Orlanth wrote: Fusion is a technology that has been 'a decade from producing results since the 50's, and frankly not much progress has been made. Nevertheless first world science has a duty to the human race to keep trying and trying with this one.
And for good reason.
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2015/12/28 07:57:26
Subject: Germany activating its experimental fusion reactor. Will the fusion power plant becomes true?
The problem with shooting nuclear waste into space is it is a) very expensive, and b) very bad for large parts of the planet if the rocket explodes on its way off the planet.
Lone Cat wrote: ^ Radiation poisoning is still real. and AFAIK no cure is present as we speak.
That needs to change so that we can move forward. In fact as much as nuclear weaponry has prevented wars it's inevitable I think. Only so long before some psychopath decides to not play by the rules and detonates a few. We'll need some counter-measures for when that day comes. Pretty scary when nuclear war could very realistically end the world.
That's not how radiation sickness works. It's caused by either immediate cell death or damaged DNA leading to transcription errors. There's no cure to it possible, merely preventative measures such as iodine pills or wearing protective clothing and breathing apparatus.
2015/12/28 11:44:11
Subject: Germany activating its experimental fusion reactor. Will the fusion power plant becomes true?
New work with DNA reading and editing techniques is certainly moving towards a point where these corrective molecules can be used to scan for a group of common and known transcription errors and correct or remove them.
Similarly, tumour identification methods teamed with specific and localised drug/treatment delivery are getting better every year.
None of this is going to happen in the very near term, but it is technology that is certainly on the radar of present science.
Can't we just bury nuclear waste deep under the Gobi desert or some other equally remote and desolate wasteland? Maybe even forms nuclear testing sites that are already irradiated.
If theres little to no native population, and not much of an ecosystem to speak of, then what's the problem?
2015/12/28 21:14:53
Subject: Germany activating its experimental fusion reactor. Will the fusion power plant becomes true?
Lets bury it under London. Those zombie mutants aren't going to mutate themselves!
(have you seen Cockneys vs. Zombies? An excellent pic).
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2015/12/28 21:15:58
Subject: Re:Germany activating its experimental fusion reactor. Will the fusion power plant becomes true?
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Thats kinda what the US does. We bury it in the middle of the desert, inside a mountain, under tons of concrete and steel. Even if it somehow got back to the surface and spilled into the environment it wouldn't do much damage at all. Assuming the containment vessels ruptured, which are extremely tough.
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Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
Gonna pretend this is mount doom so congrats you just gave Sauron nuclear waste to spread all over middle earth.
Sauron's a pretty boy. Show his face and we'll go Chesty Puller all over his one eye'd ass. When we say we have an army of Eagles we don't mean little birdies!
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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2015/12/28 22:02:13
Subject: Re:Germany activating its experimental fusion reactor. Will the fusion power plant becomes true?
Grey Templar wrote: Thats kinda what the US does. We bury it in the middle of the desert, inside a mountain, under tons of concrete and steel. Even if it somehow got back to the surface and spilled into the environment it wouldn't do much damage at all. Assuming the containment vessels ruptured, which are extremely tough.
You haven't seen the latest Godzilla film, have you?
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