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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/31 00:40:44
Subject: What do you think of the airbrush craze?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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id say everyone except myself on this thread is incapable of painting well, what would any of you know about this topic lol.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/31 00:42:39
Subject: What do you think of the airbrush craze?
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/31 01:24:37
Subject: Re:What do you think of the airbrush craze?
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Making Stuff
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eosgreen wrote:thats not an equal comparison. it would be like you are using blue paint and im using the ingredients that make blue paint that i mix on the model
...and?
Some artists use pre-mixed paint. Some mix their own. Neither is doing it wrong, they're just doing it differently.
im not saying using tools that make a job easier is not smart, im simply saying that its a lot harder to use a brush to do most of the stuff an airbrush does with little effort.
And that's a problem... why?
It's a lot harder to do some things with an airbrush that can be done quickly and easily with a brush. Or with a knife. Or with a pin.
Again, that doesn't make you wrong for using the airbrush... it just means you're potentially using the best tool for the job.
would you call autotuning cheating?
No. I would call it 'using a different process to get the desired result'.
youre not gonna like this last part but what would you know about the complaints of airbrush vs brush. i looked at your gallery, you havent experienced the problems high level brush paintjobs exp. so how would you know.... you have a black templar chaplain that is edge highlighted with a blue line.
....uh... No I don't...
have you ever messed with grey paint at a seriously seamless level shading a tank? do you know how fickle grey is? what about red. do you know how many people struggle with shading red lol? airbrushes make those problems a joke....
...for those who know how to use them.
Your brush work isn't devalued by someone else choosing to do the same thing with an airbrush, any more than the Mona Lisa is devalued by me printing out a photo of my wife. They're different processes for achieving a similar result. That's all. If you choose to do something using a more difficult process, that's entirely up to you. Doing it that way takes the same amount of skill regardless of how many other people are using an easier method.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/31 01:37:08
Subject: Re:What do you think of the airbrush craze?
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Savage Khorne Berserker Biker
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eosgreen wrote:
yes they are. theres a reason there used to be airbrush and paintbrush brackets for competitions. certain things an airbrush does, a brush cant compete with. for example blending large scale models. i suppose i could spend 1k hours to attempt to compete but um... yeh....
it drastically reduces the time it takes to paint and makes certain tasks easier. its harder to paint without leaving brush strokes and things of this nature than with an airbrush. certain effects are also made easier with an airbrush.
- it isnt cheating in the normal sense of the word but it feels dirty.
- do you play starcraft 2? airbrushes are like forcefielding ramps. it isnt "cheating" but everyone hates you and thinks you are a dick
This isn't a competition. Its a Hobby. So NO it's not cheating. Automatically Appended Next Post: eosgreen wrote:kb_lock wrote:Anyone that thinks airbrushing is easier has obviously never used one. Cleaning and maintenance are a pig.
Anyone that thinks an airbrush is cheating should be mixing their own paint from pigment and using their own hair to make brushes, as demonstrated here the last time this utterly stupid bait thread happened;
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/394884.page
it is a bait because cheating is the wrong word. the proper phrase is "less skilled"
Less Skilled ? You think using an airbrush over a brush requires less skill ? You have obviously not used an Airbrush. It's just a TOOL you really need to get over it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/31 02:05:15
Subject: What do you think of the airbrush craze?
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Dakka Veteran
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I too recall when dry brushing and dipping were scandalous topics.
I'd love to get into airbrushing when I'm in a different living situation. Not a fan of the exaggerated OSL and obvious fading techniques, but as has been said, it's a tool like any other and clearly seems to help people put solid minis on the table at a faster rate.
Painting is one of the biggest barriers to the hobby, so anything that makes the process easier, faster and more rewarding is good in my book. The rise in commission services is also great.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/31 02:52:17
Subject: What do you think of the airbrush craze?
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Grizzled Space Wolves Great Wolf
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Kriswall wrote:AllSeeingSkink wrote: Kriswall wrote:For me, the most jarring part about airbrushing is when OSL is poorly done. It can look really, really fake. I just don't like when the painter seems to think "I'll just hit a couple of random areas with bright green or blue and... done". I know I wouldn't want to pay for results like that.
95% of the time I don't like OSL at all. Actually, 100% of the time on table top models, the only time I think it's appropriate is a diorama.
When you're viewing models under bright lighting and the models have been painted as if they're walking around in daylight, OSL just looks weird. Not to mention the fact people rarely realise how light actually works (eg. red light shining on a blue surface should not reflect any of the light, or very very little of it).
I have seen some dioramas done where it's worked well because the artist has made the whole scene appear as if it's darker than usual and the artist has complete control over ALL the light on the scene, not just a random blob of blue that is surrounding a plasma gun for some reason.
But that doesn't have to do with airbrushing, because you paint OSL without an airbrush and still get it wrong, it's just more time consuming 
99% agreed. OSL is misused MOST of the time, but does have it's place. Light OSL around glowing lights isn't terrible, but it needs to be understated. An inset LED isn't going to illuminate the surface it's embedded in. I painted the linked image using a pretty simple dry brush technique for the OSL. My intent was to go with a pretty understated effect showing the greenish slime stuff to be glowing up onto the underside of the Deff Dread. I think I pulled it off ok. Spraying the whole area with green paint via airbrush would have looked awful.
I understand what you mean and that's a nicely painted model.... but I'm still not a fan of the OSL on it
Most models are painted as if they're in day light. For something to create a visible glow in daylight it needs to be incredibly bright. If a fire is burning during the day, you won't notice the glow of the flames on surrounding objects (unless there's a lot of smoke to darken the area and create a medium for the glow to be seen), a car's headlight, you'll notice it's switched on, but you won't really notice the glow of them illuminating anything. You also have the fact that OSL should be dynamic. In reality the glow from an object isn't static, it changes with your view point.
The models I like which have OSL are typically dioramas where the artist has specfically painted them so the scene looks like it's at night time or low light conditions, so the OSL makes sense.
In the right conditions (which I think are rare), an airbrush can be used to help create the OSL, but it'll need to be cleaned up with a hairy brush, adding edge highlights (as heavily directional light tends to catch edges more than flat surfaces) and dulling down areas where the glow shouldn't be as strong.
I'm also not a fan of LED's 95% of the time.... though in the case of LED's it's usually because they typically don't create properly "scaled" lighting. Not unless you take the time to create lenses/reflecting mirrors (for things like headlights) or properly diffusing the light. Some things like exhaust flames on a piston engine just can't be recreated at all. But that's just my opinion, I know some people love LED's, lol. Automatically Appended Next Post: Snoopdeville3 wrote:I agree, I am not crazy about the whole, lets completely airbrush the entire army. It may look good from afar but up close it looks awful. You definitely need the right balance of airbrush and hand brush.
There is one studio in particular (not going to name any names), that really over does it with an airbrush (seems like a 90/10 ratio). His prices on ebay for the time he must put into them are ridiculous. As in charges way to much, it seems like he takes pics of the models from afar so it looks great... but up close... no detail.
But if your goal is simply to have your models look good from the other side of the gaming table.... what's the problem?
Commission painting costs time and money.... I'd suggest a large portion of commissions are done for models that look good at a few feet away (regardless of airbrushing or not) simply because getting a model commissioned that looks good from 6" away is going to cost you a hell of a lot more money.
Often the commission painters who do airbrush heavy work are more than capable of painting the fine detail you describe, as I mentioned earlier Awaken Realms gets hounded for airbrush use, but if you look at some of their Infinity models you can see they scale it down to something that looks good on a much smaller scale as well.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/31 04:27:42
Subject: What do you think of the airbrush craze?
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Stern Iron Priest with Thrall Bodyguard
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@Scooty: i don't understand where this idea that NMM is "American style" comes from...
i've seen it called that by a few people, but the first time that NMM exploded onto the scene, around the year 2000, was from the Rackham studio out of France...
it was then picked up and perfected by the Italians and the Spanish long before it became a trend in the US...
i'm American, and i have always painted with TMM, but never felt that i was painting in a European style...
if anything i looked to the French for Zenithal and NMM perfection...
on topic:
can't say i am a fan of the obvious airbrushed look, but if people enjoy the tool, more power to them...
i don't like the lack of tactile feel with the airbrush, personally...
i've had an airbrush for 20 years, and still can't bring myself to use it for miniature painting...
hairy sticks just feel right
for saving time, i'm sure it is a great tool, but being in a hurry to finish a paintjob just isn't my thing...
each paintjob is a journey and a learning experience that i am not in a rush to get through...
as ideas develop, a miniature becomes a better piece than it would have been if i had just rushed through it...
i love that i never know what a mini is going to look like until it is finished, and finally glued together...
stylistically, there are fans of each approach...
there are always going to be people who poo-poo certain techniques and styles, but there is enough room in the miniature painting world for all styles to exist happily...
i love that we get to see a variety of approaches  ...
cheers
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/31 04:36:35
Subject: What do you think of the airbrush craze?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Anything that gets the models to an actually painted state instead of gray plastic, resin or bare metal is okay by me.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/31 04:41:09
Subject: What do you think of the airbrush craze?
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Rough Rider with Boomstick
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privateer4hire wrote:Anything that gets the models to an actually painted state instead of gray plastic, resin or bare metal is okay by me.
I agree. While I don't care for the style I've been talking about, its better than bare models or just primed models for tabletop. I'm not ganna call somebody out on something I don't like if they aren't trying to pass it off as professionally painted. But the second they are asking triple or quadruple the price of the model for it, I'm ganna say something. But again, its better than bare or exclusively primed models if you are just playing against them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/31 04:59:32
Subject: What do you think of the airbrush craze?
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Ryan_A wrote: But the second they are asking triple or quadruple the price of the model for it, I'm ganna say something.
Why?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/31 05:34:11
Subject: What do you think of the airbrush craze?
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Rough Rider with Boomstick
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insaniak wrote: Ryan_A wrote: But the second they are asking triple or quadruple the price of the model for it, I'm ganna say something.
Why?
I'll say something to the person who would consider buying it. I'd tell them that it is rather easy to create that model and they could get a model that has a lot more time and effort in it that has what many consider a better paintjob. I'd also tell them that the effect is rather easy to learn, and by buying an airbrush and watching a few youtube videos, they could recreate the same effect. I'd also say that there are several commission artists who would recreate that effect on a model for a lower price.
I would do this so the person wouldn't get (what I consider) ripped off. I'd hope if anyone sees what they think as a person getting ripped off, that they would say something.
With that said, if after I tell them all of this they say "I don't care, I really like it and want it", then more power to them! Buy the models if after all of what I say you still like them and still want to buy. Not going to stop them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/31 05:48:59
Subject: What do you think of the airbrush craze?
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Grizzled Space Wolves Great Wolf
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insaniak wrote: Ryan_A wrote: But the second they are asking triple or quadruple the price of the model for it, I'm ganna say something.
Why?
What a silly question, because people aren't allowed to spend their money on things they like unless they are first Ryan™ approved! But really, even those quickly airbrushed models still would have taken enough time to paint to justify 2-4 times the price of the bare model assuming someone is willing to pay it. Any commissioned tank is probably a few hours work in assembly if it's done neatly (or more if they bothered to fill gaps and whatnot) and a few hours painting (lets say an hour and a half or so airbrushing + the same time oil washing, edge highlighting weathering, varnishing, etc) which easily justifies a price in that range. Something like what winterdyne would produce, a model that is good enough that it could possibly win a high level painting comp, you're looking at more like 10 times the price of the original kit. Automatically Appended Next Post: Ryan_A wrote:I'd also tell them that the effect is rather easy to learn, and by buying an airbrush and watching a few youtube videos
This is BS in a lot of cases. Unless you can link me to some really crappily painted models going for high prices, buying yourself an airbrush and watching a few youtube videos isn't going to get you painting models as good as this... http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/672822.page ...unless the person has a lot of natural artistic ability beforehand. It's going to take you a lot of practice before you get to the point where you can paint that, and even if you ever reach that point it's still going to take many hours to paint a model like that. Put your money where your mouth is and paint some of these sorts of models if you think it's so easy, and tell us if you can do it in little enough time to sell it for only 2x the original price of the kit and still earn minimum wage.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/31 06:01:13
Subject: What do you think of the airbrush craze?
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Rough Rider with Boomstick
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AllSeeingSkink wrote: insaniak wrote: Ryan_A wrote: But the second they are asking triple or quadruple the price of the model for it, I'm ganna say something.
Why?
What a silly question, because people aren't allowed to spend their money on things they like unless they are first Ryan™ approved!
I don't appreciate that. I said the exact opposite thing in a recent post of mine. I assume you read it, since you quoted it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/31 06:03:18
Subject: What do you think of the airbrush craze?
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Grizzled Space Wolves Great Wolf
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I was being sarcastic (sorry if it wasn't obvious enough) because I think the amount you care and the amount of noise you make about what other people paint and buy is just a wee bit silly.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/31 06:12:14
Subject: What do you think of the airbrush craze?
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Rough Rider with Boomstick
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AllSeeingSkink wrote:I was being sarcastic (sorry if it wasn't obvious enough) because I think the amount you care and the amount of noise you make about what other people paint and buy is just a wee bit silly.
I didn't consider this one thread and my 5 or so medium length posts in this thread was making a considerable amount of "noise" nor "caring" too much. I was wondering where everyone stands on the issue. I stated in my original post that I am aware there are a lot of people who disagreed with me (which was the reason I made the thread, to see if there were any at all who agreed with me). I don't believe I have ever even said to somebody or commented on a picture saying I thought it was poorly airbrushed, so I don't know where you are getting "making noise" from. I do care about people getting ripped off. I will say something if I believe somebody is getting ripped off, because I believe that is something any decent person would do.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/31 06:18:11
Subject: What do you think of the airbrush craze?
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Grizzled Space Wolves Great Wolf
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You don't have to justify yourself to me Mr Philosophy major  Ryan_A wrote:I will say something if I believe somebody is getting ripped off, because I believe that is something any decent person would do.
I'll just say what I said before since you might have missed it...
This is BS in a lot of cases. Unless you can link me to some really crappily painted models going for high prices, buying yourself an airbrush and watching a few youtube videos isn't going to get you painting models as good as this...
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/672822.page
...unless the person has a lot of natural artistic ability beforehand. It's going to take you a lot of practice before you get to the point where you can paint that, and even if you ever reach that point it's still going to take many hours to paint a model like that.
Put your money where your mouth is and paint some of these sorts of models if you think it's so easy, and tell us if you can do it in little enough time to sell it for only 2x the original price of the kit and still earn minimum wage.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/31 06:22:13
Subject: What do you think of the airbrush craze?
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Rough Rider with Boomstick
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/31 06:27:19
Subject: What do you think of the airbrush craze?
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Grizzled Space Wolves Great Wolf
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So... you're not actually going to respond to the on topic part of my post? mmk
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/31 06:29:39
Subject: What do you think of the airbrush craze?
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Rough Rider with Boomstick
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AllSeeingSkink wrote:
This (models being sold as professionally painted when they are not done well) is BS in a lot of cases.
I agree, its rare. So rare in fact that I have, as I said, never said anything about specific models, since I have never seen somebody in person trying to sell poorly painted models as professionally painted (again, as I said). Twice though, I have sent messages to Ebay sellers stating I believe their models are sub-par when they state they are "professionally painted" and linked them pictures to the same models going for the price they are asking for, yet, what I believe to be, better painted. Automatically Appended Next Post:
Oh no, I was, as I did. I keep getting logged out, so I am only posting a little at a time. As you see, I did respond, I was in the middle of responding when you posted this. Sorry for the confusion.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/31 06:36:10
Subject: What do you think of the airbrush craze?
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Grizzled Space Wolves Great Wolf
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Without examples your point fades to being meaningless. You have judged something as not being worth the money but without any evidence to demonstrate as such we can't know if it really wasn't worth the money or you simply lack a critical eye to understand how much effort went in to painting it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/31 06:42:52
Subject: What do you think of the airbrush craze?
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Rough Rider with Boomstick
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AllSeeingSkink wrote:Without examples your point fades to being meaningless. You have judged something as not being worth the money but without any evidence to demonstrate as such we can't know if it really wasn't worth the money or you simply lack a critical eye to understand how much effort went in to painting it.
124 people believe they understand what I mean enough, without me posting images, to vote. I invite you to read my other posts if you want my position on posting example images about this topic.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/31 06:51:16
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Grizzled Space Wolves Great Wolf
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I've already read your other posts and they sound like a cop out to me
Also 124 people voted on your poll.... that means nothing more than 124 people voted on your poll.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/31 06:52:13
Subject: Re:What do you think of the airbrush craze?
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There is actually a dialogue going on about airbrushing right now, that has not been happening, at all. Its a subject people are afraid to talk about, and now, because of this thread, people aren't afraid to talk about it. People are talking about it. Somebody likes the style, and they type a post (especially in the world right now where you have the internet and anybody right now can actually speak publicly, which was not the case before). So now, somebody actually types a post about the style and they like it, then you read the replies and some of the people who don't like it respond and say their side. Then somebody who doesn't like the style types a post about it, and the people who like the style hold them to task in the replies. Thats an actual, thats a dialogue.
For those who don't get the reference: https://youtu.be/GrsJDy8VjZk?t=2m1s
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AllSeeingSkink wrote:I
Also 124 people voted on your poll.... that means nothing more than 124 people voted on your poll.
What? The hell do you mean? Are you saying people randomly signed up for a dakkadakka account, clicked this thread, and then randomly chose the answer?
I said that 124 people believe they understand what I mean enough, that without me even posting images about what I am talking about, that they felt confident enough to take part in the pole. Then you come and reply "well, that just doesn't mean anything".
The hell are you talking about?
Amended: With a reply like that, it seems you and I are on a different level of understanding and I won't reply to you anymore, as I believe everything that I want to say has been said and if you want to know what I mean, just look what I've said before. If you still don't get it, then you and I are just on a different level of understanding basic concepts.
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If you are still not getting, let me invite you to watch this:
https://youtu.be/GrsJDy8VjZk?t=6m50s
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/31 07:01:49
Subject: What do you think of the airbrush craze?
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Grizzled Space Wolves Great Wolf
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I think you've gone off on a bit of a tangent. The discussion at hand was regarding your thoughts that certain models were overpriced and people were being ripped off. I know what you mean regarding the airbrushing style... but I question your ability to accurately determine the amount of effort that went in to painting a model to decide if it's overpriced and ripping people off. EDIT: Wait did you transpose Tarantino talking about slavery in to airbrushing styles?  Cute.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 1016/06/30 07:13:04
Subject: What do you think of the airbrush craze?
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Rough Rider with Boomstick
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AllSeeingSkink wrote:
I know what you mean regarding the airbrushing style... but I question your ability to accurately determine the amount of effort that went in to painting a model to decide if it's overpriced and ripping people off.
Believe it or not I do commissions. Besides my disability check, doing commissions is the only way I make money. I use primers, airbrushes, brushes, modeling tools, greenstuff/greystuff, basing agents, washes, etc. I've paid for my whole army that I recently purchased as well as my $700 graphics tablet and half my computer from commissions. I know what goes into painting a model.
Now, am I going to show or even hint at what my official email/pen name/etc is? Hell no. Because I keep my personal life and professional life separate. If I was a stubborn mule to somebody in a forum, they most likely wouldn't buy from me. I have not uploaded any of my work that I have done in the last four years for that very reason.
But yes, I know what goes into painting models for commissioned work.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/31 07:16:50
Subject: What do you think of the airbrush craze?
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Grizzled Space Wolves Great Wolf
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So... "believe I'm right because I say I'm right without proof". Yeah, that doesn't cut it sorry. Maybe you should stop replying to me because I'm not willing to take the word of some random person on the internet and you aren't willing to demonstrate anything.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/31 07:23:31
Subject: What do you think of the airbrush craze?
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Rough Rider with Boomstick
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AllSeeingSkink wrote:EDIT: Wait did you transpose Tarantino talking about slavery in to airbrushing styles?  Cute.
Ya, I thought it would be funny, trying to cut some of the tension. But ya, I suppose we are at an impasse, you want proof I am not some internet schmuck who says whatever I can to seem right and I am not willing to give it. Its too bad we weren't having this conversation in person, we could drink some cheap gin, smoke a joint, and become good friends.
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Resin Printer (minaitures) is a 4K printer with one of the largest build volumes available for a resin printer (192mm x 120mm x 245mm) with an amazing .01mm resolution! This professional printer is one of the best resin printers on the market!
FDM Printer (terrain) also has one of the largest build volumes available for an FDM printer (400mm x 400mm x 450mm) and has an amazing ,05mm build accuracy.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/31 08:21:01
Subject: Re:What do you think of the airbrush craze?
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Making Stuff
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Not sure where you got that idea. It's a fairly common topic of discussion on this and most other forums I've been on.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Ryan_A wrote: Twice though, I have sent messages to Ebay sellers stating I believe their models are sub-par when they state they are "professionally painted" and linked them pictures to the same models going for the price they are asking for, yet, what I believe to be, better painted.
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I sincerely hope that they told you where to go.
There is an awful lot more that goes into determining the price than just what someone else is charging for similar work, and if you genuinely do commission work I would expect you to be aware of that.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/31 08:36:24
Subject: What do you think of the airbrush craze?
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Douglas Bader
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AllSeeingSkink wrote:YThis is BS in a lot of cases. Unless you can link me to some really crappily painted models going for high prices, buying yourself an airbrush and watching a few youtube videos isn't going to get you painting models as good as this...
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/672822.page
...unless the person has a lot of natural artistic ability beforehand. It's going to take you a lot of practice before you get to the point where you can paint that, and even if you ever reach that point it's still going to take many hours to paint a model like that.
I'm kind of confused here. Are we supposed to be impressed by that model? Some of it isn't bad, but the glow effect is just awful.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/12/31 08:53:48
Subject: What do you think of the airbrush craze?
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Grizzled Space Wolves Great Wolf
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Peregrine wrote:AllSeeingSkink wrote:YThis is BS in a lot of cases. Unless you can link me to some really crappily painted models going for high prices, buying yourself an airbrush and watching a few youtube videos isn't going to get you painting models as good as this...
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/672822.page
...unless the person has a lot of natural artistic ability beforehand. It's going to take you a lot of practice before you get to the point where you can paint that, and even if you ever reach that point it's still going to take many hours to paint a model like that.
I'm kind of confused here. Are we supposed to be impressed by that model? Some of it isn't bad, but the glow effect is just awful.
Nope.... simply pointing out that if that's what you think looks good (something which is subjective) you sure as hell aren't going to buy an airbrush, watch a couple of youtube videos and expect to be able to paint something that looks as good.
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