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 Grey Templar wrote:



I think that if we say that asserting you will defend yourself is itself a threat than it could be a serious blow to people who are legitimately defending themselves. Which is obviously not a good thing. We have to consider the ramifications.

If we classify what they said as being a threat, than someone who is defending their home from an intruder who yells out "I'll kill you if you come any closer" could be construed as making a death threat, which is illegal.


The difference lies, I think, in that these people have no right to defend themselves from people entering the property (as it isn't theirs) or to defend themselves from law enforcement officers arresting them legitimately.

So the context of the situation determines whether saying "I will kill you if you come near me" is a threat or not and that in this case it is a threat as the militia have no right to defend themselves from legal arrest or in order to prevent anybody from entering federally owned land as they are not federal law enforcement.

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i100.independent.co.uk/article/someone-has-now-sent-the-oregon-militia-55-gallons-of-lube-to-go-with-their-dildos--ZyzxO7ahP3x

Since a group of around a dozen armed militants took over a federal building on a remote wildlife reserve in Oregon to protest government "tyranny" earlier this month, the public's response has been less than sympathetic.

The "militia" may well be a little peckish and cold, but at least they have now have plenty of lube to accompany all the dildos they've been sent in the post.

On Thursday, Max Temkin, a Chicago-based designer, posted to Twitter his order of a 55-gallon drum of person lubricant, which he kindly sent to the group many have claimed are domestic "terrorists".

It cost Max more than $1,000 and people have been very keen to show their support for the cause.


Sorry I had to post this. I hope this makes some people in this thread laugh.

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 A Town Called Malus wrote:
 Grey Templar wrote:



I think that if we say that asserting you will defend yourself is itself a threat than it could be a serious blow to people who are legitimately defending themselves. Which is obviously not a good thing. We have to consider the ramifications.

If we classify what they said as being a threat, than someone who is defending their home from an intruder who yells out "I'll kill you if you come any closer" could be construed as making a death threat, which is illegal.


The difference lies, I think, in that these people have no right to defend themselves from people entering the property (as it isn't theirs) or to defend themselves from law enforcement officers arresting them legitimately.

So the context of the situation determines whether saying "I will kill you if you come near me" is a threat or not and that in this case it is a threat as the militia have no right to defend themselves from legal arrest or in order to prevent anybody from entering federally owned land as they are not federal law enforcement.


The issue here is that context doesn't always factor in when you are dealing with legal matters. That leaves too much grey area for things to wiggle around in.

These people have already broken a bunch of laws, no need to go after them for making threats. That would open up the possibilities for some unwanted loopholes for self-defense.

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They finally arrested one, and let's add grand theft auto to their charges.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jan/15/oregon-militia-standoff-arrest-stolen-government-vehicle-burns-oregon-police-kenneth-medenbach

Spoiler:
Police say Kenneth Medenbach drove the vehicle to town from the Malheur national wildlife refuge – and it’s not his first tangle with the law
Kenneth Medenbach spoke with the Guardian on 2 January at a public rally in support of the ranchers, held in the same Safeway car park where he was arrested.
Photograph: Jason Wilson for the Guardian Sam Levin in Burns, Oregon, and Nicky Woolf in San Francisco

The standoff with armed militia in Oregon escalated on Friday after police swooped in on one of the protesters to make the first arrest in connection with the two-week occupation of a federal wildlife refuge.

Kenneth Medenbach, who was arrested for unauthorized use of a government vehicle, is a chainsaw sculptor and longtime nemesis of the government with a history of previous entanglements with the courts over the occupation of federal lands.

He is the first militiaman connected to the armed occupation to be arrested since the bird sanctuary in rural Oregon was unexpectedly taken over on 2 January.

Medenbach, 62, was detained outside a Safeway supermarket in Burns, Oregon, some 30 miles from the Malheur national wildlife refuge, according to a statement from the Harney County sheriff’s office.

He appears to have driven from the occupied compound to a local supermarket in a vehicle allegedly stolen from the US Fish and Wildlife Service, which runs the refuge. The sheriff’s office statement said that law enforcement officers recovered “two vehicles stolen from the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge”.

Medenbach’s company, Chainsaw Creations, lists cabins, furniture, and signs for sale, as well as sculpted animals, with a specialty in bears and eagles. A biography on the website for a gallery that sells his woodwork says that Medenbach was born in Massachusetts, the second-youngest of five children, and that he spent 40 years in the construction trade.

This is not Medenbach’s first tangle with the law. He is currently out on bail, according to court documents, awaiting trial for a seven-month residential occupation of government land between May and November 2015.

Medenbach was tried and convicted of the same crime in 1996. According to a forest service officer who testified at that trial, Medenbach was living in “an eight-by-ten-foot tent with a metal flue and wood-burning stove, a nearby campfire, and various cooking and sleeping equipment”.

According to a court memorandum, the magistrate said that Medenbach posed a risk to public safety and said that he had referenced Ruby Ridge and Waco, two sieges that ended in violence. At a detention hearing, the government said that Medenbach had tried to protect his campsite with “50 to 100 pounds of the explosive ammonium sulfate, a pellet gun, and what appeared to be a hand grenade with trip wires.”

Convicted and given a six-month suspended sentence, Medenbach appealed the case to the federal ninth circuit court, where he argued that federal ownership of unappropriated public lands was unconstitutional. He also filed a civil suit to demand that federal judges no longer swear an oath of affirmation under the constitution, a position he defended in this blog post from January 2015.

According to one local report, the two vehicles, one a pickup truck and one a passenger van, bore door signs reading “Harney County Resource Center” – the new name occupiers have given to the sanctuary. The man police suspected of driving the second government vehicle into town already had gone into the grocery store before police arrived, the report said.

The arrest, which marks the first confrontation between law enforcement and the armed occupiers, came hours before Ammon Bundy, the leader of the militia, and the other armed men had planned to hold a meeting with the local community at which the occupiers said they planned to discuss ending the protest.

It is unclear how central a figure Medenbach was to the occupation at the refuge, or how long he had been staying there. However, his commitment to the extreme ideology of rightwing constitutionalists is not in doubt.

Medenbach spoke with The Guardian on the 2nd of January at the public rally in support of the Hammonds, held in the same Safeway car park where he was arrested. When asked why he was attending, he offered similar constitutional theories as those offered by other militia members. He claimed to have been involved in this stand-off as a member of the Oath Keepers militia.

He was extensively profiled in the 1999 book Terrorists Among Us: The Militia Threat, by retired Indiana police captain Robert L Snow. At the time, Snow wrote, Medenbach was building his own home on five acres of land in Crescent, Oregon, out of “discarded refrigerators, water heaters, and other such material.” Medenbach, according to Snow, subscribed to the legal theory that state bar associations are unconstitutional, and so courts have no authority over him.

“I’m willing to pay the price for my convictions,” Medenbach told Snow. “Someday, when the laws become too stringent, people will start waking up.”

Armed militia have been seen driving the government vehicles around the refuge ever since they took over the site in protest over federal land management policies earlier this month. Legal experts have told the Guardian that the occupiers could face hefty fines and more than 10 years of imprisonment.

A USFWS spokesperson Megan Nagel said: “The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service is grateful for the quick actions from law enforcement. We will continue to work with law enforcement to recover vehicles bought and paid for by the American people to care for their national wildlife refuge.”

It was unclear Friday whether the scheduled 7pm meeting between the militia and local residents would go ahead. The militia leaders had said they planned to speak directly with residents and explain their plans to leave the federal land. Officials in rural Harney County, who have become increasingly outspoken against the militia, have denied them access to public buildings, saying they refuse to host a group that supports the illegal takeover of government property.

On Thursday, Bundy was expressing doubts about whether the meeting would happen at all if the militia couldn’t find a venue.

Harney County judge Steve Grasty said he was grateful that officials have made an arrest. “At some point, criminal actions become so blatant that they just can’t be ignored,” he said. “At some point, criminal actions become so blatant that they just can’t be ignored.”

He said law enforcement is trying to end this without violence, but must make every effort to hold people accountable for their crimes. “Perhaps that’ll give Bundy and his friends incentive not to be driving around these vehicles,” he added.

Corey Lequieu, a 45-year-old occupier who is still at the refuge, said he was reluctant to believe the reports of his fellow militiaman’s arrest. “It may not even be true. I’m hoping it’s not true,” he said. “I’m very leery about their press releases and press conferences. That sheriff has lied before.”

Jason Wilson contributed reporting.

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It's a good start, and probably smart to pick him up away from the main group.
   
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Relapse wrote:
 d-usa wrote:
Relapse wrote:

And when the gak hits the fan, these will be the types raiding people's homes to steal their supplies if the ones I knew are anything to go on.


It's their own fault for not being prepared to defend themselves when the government fails, survival of the fittest!



Yep the militia was brewing a plan to raid people's houses if anything ever happens.


So, let me get this straight, the militia wanted to bring down the government to stop the tyranny over the people. Then when that happened, they wanted to be able to be bandits for their own personal gain?

Yeah, patriots for sure.....
   
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 Dreadwinter wrote:
Relapse wrote:
 d-usa wrote:
Relapse wrote:

And when the gak hits the fan, these will be the types raiding people's homes to steal their supplies if the ones I knew are anything to go on.


It's their own fault for not being prepared to defend themselves when the government fails, survival of the fittest!



Yep the militia was brewing a plan to raid people's houses if anything ever happens.


So, let me get this straight, the militia wanted to bring down the government to stop the tyranny over the people. Then when that happened, they wanted to be able to be bandits for their own personal gain?

Yeah, patriots for sure.....


All the while telling me melodramatic reasons for being militia, with the best being they will fight so their children won't have to.
   
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But once they take over as the government their children will need to form a new militia in order to ensure that the new government doesn't become a corrupt tyrany and, say, start stealing food from their neighbo... wait a second!

   
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 Asherian Command wrote:
i100.independent.co.uk/article/someone-has-now-sent-the-oregon-militia-55-gallons-of-lube-to-go-with-their-dildos--ZyzxO7ahP3x

Since a group of around a dozen armed militants took over a federal building on a remote wildlife reserve in Oregon to protest government "tyranny" earlier this month, the public's response has been less than sympathetic.

The "militia" may well be a little peckish and cold, but at least they have now have plenty of lube to accompany all the dildos they've been sent in the post.

On Thursday, Max Temkin, a Chicago-based designer, posted to Twitter his order of a 55-gallon drum of person lubricant, which he kindly sent to the group many have claimed are domestic "terrorists".

It cost Max more than $1,000 and people have been very keen to show their support for the cause.


Sorry I had to post this. I hope this makes some people in this thread laugh.


55 gallons, oh man.
thats funny

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 SilverMK2 wrote:
But once they take over as the government their children will need to form a new militia in order to ensure that the new government doesn't become a corrupt tyrany and, say, start stealing food from their neighbo... wait a second!


.......Exactly! Makes total sense.

It's ok though. All these extremists always reassure us that they will do a much better job than the guys in the black helicopters, so no worries!

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 Grey Templar wrote:

The issue here is that context doesn't always factor in when you are dealing with legal matters. That leaves too much grey area for things to wiggle around in.


Context always matters when it comes to legal judgment.

 Grey Templar wrote:

These people have already broken a bunch of laws, no need to go after them for making threats. That would open up the possibilities for some unwanted loopholes for self-defense.


I disagree, they should face the full force of the law. I see no reason at all to avoid charging the relevant individuals with crimes they might be guilty of.

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 dogma wrote:
I disagree, they should face the full force of the law. I see no reason at all to avoid charging the relevant individuals with crimes they might be guilty of.


If only there were someone we could send into Oregon who were an expert in dealing with armed crazies and creeps who don't uphold the Law...



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What's going on. Insanity.

Nothing here is normal. Situation is pretty odd.

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I have no clue how Dakka's moderation work. I expect it involves throwing a lot of d100 and looking at many random tables.

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I am seriously surprised we haven't just hooked up giant speakers and started blasting "Barbie Girl" on a loop by now. Three days of that should do the trick.
   
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lonestarr777 wrote:
I am seriously surprised we haven't just hooked up giant speakers and started blasting "Barbie Girl" on a loop by now. Three days of that should do the trick.


no, beiber, endlessly. i fear it may be a crime against humanity though

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I have no clue how Dakka's moderation work. I expect it involves throwing a lot of d100 and looking at many random tables.

FudgeDumper - It could be that you are just so uncomfortable with the idea of your chapters primarch having his way with a docile tyranid spore cyst, that you must deny they have any feelings at all.  
   
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It would be more fun to air drop a giant mirrored box around them so that they would have to actually look at themselves.

I would even look the other way on that kind of unnecessary government spending.

 
   
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 Easy E wrote:
You want to know what is going on? Nothing. That's what is going on there. Nothing.


This is why the government is also doing... nothing.

Which I'm very happy about, even though I feel that what these guys are doing is akin to terrorism, and it'd be treated very differently if it were a bunch of people wearing turbans. They're in the middle of nowhere, occupying something that nobody cares about. Better to let them cool off there than to spark another Waco.
   
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 Talys wrote:
I feel that what these guys are doing is akin to terrorism, and it'd be treated very differently if it were a bunch of people wearing turbans. They're in the middle of nowhere, occupying something that nobody cares about.


Where are examples of 'people wearing turbans' who have done something similar (occupying something nobody cares about in the middle of nowhere in your words) being treated differently by the Feds?


Perhaps jihadis in the US wearing turbans (or not as is usually the case) have different targets and go about hitting those targets differently than these guys are, and the combination of target set and actions used to hit that target set are what the feds or local LEAs use to determine their courses of action? Treating the Tsarnaev brothers or Farook and Malik differently is brought on not by their religion, color, style of headgear, but instead by the fact they were actively blowing gak up and killing people (or had done so very recently) and when confronted by the cops actively engaged them.

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 Talys wrote:
 Easy E wrote:
You want to know what is going on? Nothing. That's what is going on there. Nothing.


This is why the government is also doing... nothing.

Which I'm very happy about, even though I feel that what these guys are doing is akin to terrorism, and it'd be treated very differently if it were a bunch of people wearing turbans. They're in the middle of nowhere, occupying something that nobody cares about. Better to let them cool off there than to spark another Waco.


Keep hands off approach. No point people dieing over s remote site miles from no where if not have to.
Just keep waiting till they slide out of medias care and break up.

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I have no clue how Dakka's moderation work. I expect it involves throwing a lot of d100 and looking at many random tables.

FudgeDumper - It could be that you are just so uncomfortable with the idea of your chapters primarch having his way with a docile tyranid spore cyst, that you must deny they have any feelings at all.  
   
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lonestarr777 wrote:
I am seriously surprised we haven't just hooked up giant speakers and started blasting "Barbie Girl" on a loop by now. Three days of that should do the trick.

I remember seeing huge loud speakers in Korea that they used to use on the DMZ. Maybe the U.S. should use the same trick.

Smooth jazz though. Those guys are locked up together with a ton of dildos and lube, so…

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 CptJake wrote:
 Talys wrote:
I feel that what these guys are doing is akin to terrorism, and it'd be treated very differently if it were a bunch of people wearing turbans. They're in the middle of nowhere, occupying something that nobody cares about.


Where are examples of 'people wearing turbans' who have done something similar (occupying something nobody cares about in the middle of nowhere in your words) being treated differently by the Feds?



I think you're misunderstanding me. If people of middle-eastern descent were to occupy some building, even if it were in the middle of nowhere that nobody cares about, the public outrage from some people would force the government to take more action than, "well, let's just wait it out." That's in my opinion. Obviously, it's a hypothetical, since such a thing hasn't happened.

Just to be clear, I don't think people should be treated any differently whether they wear a turban, cross, or suit.

I *DO* feel that it's an act of terrorism when you occupy a federal building with weapons, even if nobody particularly cares about that building. Just practically speaking, an intelligent, calm observer would say, "it's not worth getting people killed over."


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 jhe90 wrote:

Keep hands off approach. No point people dieing over s remote site miles from no where if not have to.
Just keep waiting till they slide out of medias care and break up.


That's exactly it. They must get bored at some point... right? I wonder what these guys do all day, lol.

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 Talys wrote:
 CptJake wrote:
 Talys wrote:
I feel that what these guys are doing is akin to terrorism, and it'd be treated very differently if it were a bunch of people wearing turbans. They're in the middle of nowhere, occupying something that nobody cares about.


Where are examples of 'people wearing turbans' who have done something similar (occupying something nobody cares about in the middle of nowhere in your words) being treated differently by the Feds?



I think you're misunderstanding me. If people of middle-eastern descent were to occupy some building, even if it were in the middle of nowhere that nobody cares about, the public outrage from some people would force the government to take more action than, "well, let's just wait it out." That's in my opinion. Obviously, it's a hypothetical, since such a thing hasn't happened.

Just to be clear, I don't think people should be treated any differently whether they wear a turban, cross, or suit.

I *DO* feel that it's an act of terrorism when you occupy a federal building with weapons, even if nobody particularly cares about that building. Just practically speaking, an intelligent, calm observer would say, "it's not worth getting people killed over.".


I understood you. You claim pretty clearly if these were Muslims there would be a public outcry. I assume you mean one similar to the one the folks in this thread are making where they are advocating to 'drone' or otherwise assault and kill this group. The fact is, there has been public out cry calling to kill these guys. Another fact is, Jihadists in the US don't do what these guys are. Another fact is you can't show that if these guys were Jihadists they would be treated differently. In fact, Waco and Ruby Ridge seem to indicate white folks can can be treated pretty harshly by the feds even when they are isolated.

I guess I reject your 'feeling' that Jihadists would be treated differently, nothing but 'feeling' supports that.

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Again the government is not doing anything here because it has no need to. After the disasters of the earlier siege situations where many innocent people were killed, Ruby Ridge and Waco being the two obvious ones, the FBI redid their playbook. In this situation when there is no need to assault the building and there are no unwilling hostages to rescue they will not attack. They will sit back at a distance in a nonaggressive stance to avoid the view that it is a siege in order to keep from escalading the situation. These guys are causing no real harm and are not threatening or in a position to threaten anyone.
- It is still unknown whether the guys who followed the officers home are actually from this group or are part of some of the other groups outside the wire not affiliated with them.

-Don't worry about the gov workers, whatever their job was inside the building, it isn't very hard for gov office types to pick up and move to another console.

-Nothing has been done to address the false charges that BLM made against the Hammonds. If anything the militia thing has actually detracted away from the injustice done to them by the uber corrupt BLM. You don't think they are corrupt and underhanded. "Hey the farmers wont sell, Bob, go close the dam, we will flood them out and buy it at half price."(Yes that happened as part of this for that exact reason.)

-Not all militias are bad or dumb rednecks. Some have good causes, but most of those are not represented at this location. Not all militias are anti-government, some are simply local defense for major disaster prep and so forth. But If you believe the government has the best of intentions for you, you need to get out more. Ask our allied indian tribes after our initial invasion of the continent how that worked out.

-Town is 50 50 on the whole thing. Local businesses are having a booming time for a normally small community out in BFE.

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