Lizardmen in 40k

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**blofeld**

I was eyeing up the incredible value Lizardmen/Seraphon starter bundle and not playing AOS I was wondering how I could use Lizardmen in 40k. I'd be happy to do some light conversion but what armies do people suggest using to represent Lizardmen.
Thanks for any help
Blofeld

**megatrons2nd**

I would say Eldar, Space Marines, or Necrons. There is also that newer army...Mechanicus or some such, which might be a good one.

**thegreatchimp**

The first thing that jumps to mind is "Counts as Orks" but better still would be "Counts as Kroot." -years ago GW released a Kroot Mercenaries army list that contained variants of Kroot. iIt was great and made for a very interesting and unique army. The greater variety of lizardmen models could be readily used to represent the different varieties of Kroot. Although that list has faded into obscurity a long time ago, a lot of players have written up to date versions of it which you'll easily find on google.

**ImAGeek**

I've seen some cool Eldar Exodite conversions with the Lizardmen models.

**Kilkrazy**

I presume you are looking for advice on a codex to use. I think "Counts As Orks" could be the way to go.

The Skinks are like Grots. The Temple Guard and other big Lizard Men are like standard Orks. The Priests and Wizards can be used as Weirdboyz, Dokks, and so on. The dinosaurs can be "tamed" (i.e. looted vehicles.)

You just need to get a ton of ideally plastic modern weapons to replace all the obsidian spears.

**The_Grey_Knight**

Why not, if you are playing in a gaming group, try to make up your own rules for them, based on the AoS and 8th edition fantasy (if you have them/ can get them) rules. It would be hard and take a while, but it could be really rewarding and makes sure the power level is fair.

**Tailessine**

Thats always been an army i thought gw should bring to 40k. They could be something like a failsafe of the Old Ones, carrying out their work, perhaps in response to the necron awakening.
Aesthetics a bit like halo covenant, lots of high tech weaponry combined with more primitive tech- but no aztec! Also, google 'dino riders.' how would a laser armed carnosaur not be cool?

**MechaEmperor7000**

You can probably use them as Khorne Daemons or KDK.

Saurus Cavalry being Flesh Hounds or CSM Bikers.

The dudes on foot being normal Bloodletters

and the Carnosaur being a Bloodthirster of your choice (just say the flying is it leaping really, really high).

**wuestenfux**

MechaEmperor7000 wrote:
You can probably use them as Khorne Daemons or KDK.

Saurus Cavalry being Flesh Hounds or CSM Bikers.

The dudes on foot being normal Bloodletters

and the Carnosaur being a Bloodthirster of your choice (just say the flying is it leaping really, really high).

Could make sense. Then I'd paint them red and grey.

**Slayer-Fan123**

I disagree with the Bloodletters statement. They're not near enough durable to represent Lizard men.

**Spyro_Killer**

Dark Eldar! For saurus cavalry use them as jetbikes, and chariots for the larger monsters

**JamesY**

Another vote for Eldar Exodites. By far the best option.

**Slayer-Fan123**

Necrons are honestly the only ones that make sense. Being I2, very durable, and having quite an array of durable units.

**Jimsolo**

Mutants in the service of a radical inquisitor. (Counts as Inquisitorial henchmen.)

**nudibranch**

To the people saying Eldar Exodites, keep in mind the op probably wants to use all of the models in the set and not just the Carnosaur and Cold Ones. Playing Exodites would mean not using any of the infantry in the kit, so I'm guessing space lizards in more what they have in mind, which is perfectly fluff justifiable as there are millions of xenos races out there. Something to keep in mind is if you plan on playing 30k, the Imperialis Cults and Militia army list would be really nice as it's very customisable due to the different provinences you can take and the variety of ways you can equipment units

**Jimsolo**

Why couldn't you use an of the infantry?

**nudibranch**

Jimsolo wrote:
Why couldn't you use an of the infantry?

Cause Exodites are Eldar, not giant lizard people.

**IGtR=**

You could counts as them. It seems strange that you are happy for the 30k rules for humans that were incredibly intolerant of xenos of any kind to be used but not the eldar exodites. Seems bizarre. To the OP, do what you want but I think exodites are a goood representation

**nudibranch**

... Exodites don't have rules, Corsairs do if that's what you're thinking of. And Imperilis Cults and Militia is designed to fit almost anything, with rules for abhumans and chaos cults. Nothing says they have to be Imperial.

**ALEXisAWESOME**

Where'd your imagination go to die?

On the other hand, I see his point. Saurus are beefy looking in a way totally at odds with the Eldar stat-line. The lizardman roster has so little in common with Eldar when compared to say, Feral Orcs.

An Ork and a Sarus share a good toughness, low initiative and good strength (when on the charge, at least). Skinks have similarities to Grots. Stegadon = Squiggoth or Battlewagon. Bastiladon = Looted Wagon. Cold Ones could = Warbikes far better then Jetbikes. And for that lovely Carnosaur, he could simply be used as a Warboss on Warbike. Not particularly grand, but probably deserving of the T6 he gets.

Tl

r Orks. Look up armies of Feral Orks, there are lots of conversions. You would be playing the analogue of them.

**oldzoggy**

White dwarf 292 Might also be interesting to take a look at

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It has some (outdated but still working) rules for using them as mounts and monsters in 40k

**Davor**

Wouldn't they be Slann? Been ages since I read their fluff, who comes closet to Slann?

**War Kitten**

I would have to say Orks probably

**blofeld**

Orks seem like a good bet although I'm not a huge fan of their rules. Necrons also sound like a sensible choice as do demons with the lack of conversion required
I'll have a think
Thanks for all the suggestions
Blofeld

**Snoopdeville3**

I have seen the Saurus Knights lizard mounts (I beleive cold ones) used as Bikes for Orks. So basically the Orks are sitting on these lizard mounts with the same rules as a bike. Also the one really big lizard mount in there was used a bike for a warboss (or another HQ unit). It looked pretty cool, they added so armor armor to the mounts, but it wasn't painted all that great.

I think someone did this from Blue Table Painting as well... cant remember the dudes name though.

**gmaleron**

MechaEmperor7000 wrote:
You can probably use them as Khorne Daemons or KDK.

Saurus Cavalry being Flesh Hounds or CSM Bikers.

The dudes on foot being normal Bloodletters

and the Carnosaur being a Bloodthirster of your choice (just say the flying is it leaping really, really high).

I vote for this, Bloodletters would be just fine I think, they don't really have armor so instead of it being a demon save it would be a scaly skin save. Also can take advantage more of the standard Lizardman models and not have to worry about putting weapons on them as much.

**Slayer-Fan123**

I still don't see Bloodletters as durable enough to represent a Lizard Man. T3? Just a 5++? Nothing works outside equipment.

**Kharne the Befriender**

I'd say Daemons or Orks

**Hunam0001**

I'd say you could probably make a pretty decent counts as 'Nid force.

**gmaleron**

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
I disagree with the Bloodletters statement. They're not near enough durable to represent Lizard men.

Lizardmen dont look that durable either, especially since they have 0 armor except for their scaly skin.

Also if you wanted to do a Summoning List it would make perfect sense as the Lizardmen use spawning pools to create more.