The Mantic's "The Walking Dead Miniatures Game - All Out War" Kickstarter Thread

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**ArtIsGreat**

Yes, zombivors that I can actually use, sounds awesome. I could get behind low cast ''amateur'' Rick crew, clean faced and innocent, and then higher costed grizzled, beardy, veterans. Handless, eyeless murder machines.

**Albino Squirrel**

I like that interview where Ronnie says you have to keep buying the expansions so your gang stays competitive. At least he's honest, but the more I hear about this the worse it sounds.

**Cruentus**

Albino Squirrel wrote:
I like that interview where Ronnie says you have to keep buying the expansions so your gang stays competitive. At least he's honest, but the more I hear about this the worse it sounds.

Yeah, no thanks. If the zombies are good and cheap, maybe those are a buy. Otherwise, there are other rules to use, its a fairly crowded market.

**Shadow Captain Edithae**

Could someone please update the OP with new info and photos like with the GW threads?

I'm scanning the thread for new stuff but can't find any.

**Azazelx**

Albino Squirrel wrote:
I like that interview where Ronnie says you have to keep buying the expansions so your gang stays competitive. At least he's honest, but the more I hear about this the worse it sounds.

Do you have a link to that?

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Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
Could someone please update the OP with new info and photos like with the GW threads?

I'm scanning the thread for new stuff but can't find any.

Only the OP or Mods can do that, as far as I am aware.

**Shadow Captain Edithae**

Albino Squirrel wrote:
I like that interview where Ronnie says you have to keep buying the expansions so your gang stays competitive. At least he's honest, but the more I hear about this the worse it sounds.

No worse than Gamesworkshop. And a lot cheaper too.

**Albino Squirrel**

Azazelx wrote:
Albino Squirrel wrote:
I like that interview where Ronnie says you have to keep buying the expansions so your gang stays competitive. At least he's honest, but the more I hear about this the worse it sounds.

Do you have a link to that?

Here: http://www.thewalkingdead.com/intro-tabletop-gaming-with-mantic/

See the answer to the last question.

Same link has a picture of the box contents.

**Shadow Captain Edithae**

Cheers!

**Azazelx**

Ah - thanks! I'd read that interview, but obviously was paying less attention by the end of it. While I appreciate Ronnie's candor there, I'm not fond of that kind of design philosophy. (and yes, I know lots of others do it as well.)

**GrimDork**

The 'grow your gang so it stays competitive' sounds like it could suck, yes... but it really shouldn't bother anyone who plays X-wing. Needing to buy a Falcon to have a crucial upgrade for my E-Wing is kind of... lame, but I've still done it. If the figures in the boosters are nice enough and there's enough game content included to justify the price... I'll live.

May color my appreciation of those unfortunate few upgrade packs that come along as sub par, and may get me buying a few less boosters than I might if rules weren't attached... but its nothing we haven't seen before.

**Grot 6**

Going to be typical Mantic...

All gash, no substance, then they will drop it like a sack of gak for the next new cool kid kick starter.

I'm good. until we see some serious figures. Hope they don't suck.

**adamsouza**

If the Kickstarter pledge gets me evertything, except the retail exclusive pack, then I'm perfectly fine with needing more than the starter set to be competitive.

Also, seriously, what miniatures or collectable game can you play and be competitive with just the starter set ?

**GrimDork**

There is some thing about buying something on kickstarter and expecting it to be exactly what you want it to be and 100% ready to go from the outset. I dunno.

I assume there will be multiple retail packages, some will be things we get in the KS that don't come in the retail box game, and some will be the direct to retail packs that backers will also have to buy.

**OrlandotheTechnicoloured**

from todays Walking Dead blog (reported on facebook)

The Walking Dead: All Out War Miniatures Game is launching on Kickstarter on the February 1 at 05:30 PT, 08:30 ET or 1:30pm GMT.

It closes on the February 29 at 15:59 PT, 18:59 ET 11:59pm GMT.

Shipping Wave 1 is expected to be dispatched in August 2016

**highlord tamburlaine**

I'm alright with having this start soon.

Need a KS to watch since most of the ones I'm interested in currently are either super low-key or finishing up this week as well.

**adamsouza**

I'm too lazy to try and find the video where Ronnie mentioned it, but he said the single level of Kickstarter pledge gets you everything, except for the sutff they are reserving for the retail exclusive pack. He could have easliy said retail exclusive items, if there were plural.

I know they feel presssured to make something retail exclusive, so they can say they are supporting local gaming shops, but multiple retail exlcusive things just complicate things for them, retailers, and collectors.

We'll find out in a couple weeks either way.

**GrimDork**

Yep, looking forward to actually seeing the kickstarter deployed. I think I talked myself out of Zombicide recently due to the sameness of the zombie sculpts so I'm kind of hoping that these are a bit more diverse. They already look a bit less cartoony which pleases my sense of aesthetics (nothing wrong with zombicide at all, just not my personal favorite zombies).

Kickstarter just in time for me to feed it birthday funds... excellent (in theory).

**Buttery Commissar**

Just scrolled past this on FB:
https://manticblog.com/2016/01/25/15039/

KS 7 day warning.

**Aeneades**

There is talk of 2-3 addon bundles now (at least I took them to mean bundles of a big box plus a couple of associated character packs but they also could have meant single expansion sets)

**DaveC**

Yeah it looks the basic pledge level is for wave 1 with further waves as add on self contained expansions so this could cost $200+ all in by the end.

there will be one great value for money reward level for backers to pledge at – which will be shipped all in one box. It’ll have everything in the first wave of releases – so the game, the minis, lots of freebies and all the upgrades (as long as we hit those stretch goals!). With just one package we can make sure it is assembled accurately, with miniatures supplied in trays so that they don’t break or are missed from the packing, and other trays so everything has its place.

If the campaign goes really big (and that means we think it will finish right up there with our biggest ever campaigns) then we will look at 2 or 3 simple expansions which you will be able to add-on to your pledge. These will allow us to move into the later aspects of the storyline, introduce lots more heroes – and baddies

I like how they got around the solid windows in the Brick BZ by painting them as boarded up

**GrimDork**

Hmmm I live D the single pledge level no addons. So yeah probably better than 200 at this rate.

**str00dles1**

Keep churning KSes out, getting tons of money upfront even though they could easily do this game without a KS. The more mantic does, the more I hate them. Already a million companies that do modern zombies for pennis on the dollar.

Pass

**DaveC**

Base pledge confirmed as $125 (on Facebook and the blog) there will need to be some serious kit in there from day one for that price.

EBs confirmed to

Mantic Games
January 25, 2016 at 6:30 pm

Main pledge is $125, but there is a strictly limited number of discounted early birds available too.

**Nostromodamus**

Expect $5-$10 discount for EB then.

I'm still very much not going to back, but I wish them luck on it!

**OrlandotheTechnicoloured**

Wow, they're really going to need to show the value for that

(I wonder if it really represents $100 mantic price which was the initial price rumour plus $25 licencing fee)

**Tyr13**

125$? Youd *seriously* need to put in some value for that to work out... I have a feeling this KS will go a bit like the MA one... :/

**Theophony**

Enough hype train, show us a preview of whats in the kickstarter already

. Including the fake stretch goals

. I need to know wether to save my pennies or to buy more zombicide....

**Nostromodamus**

Theophony wrote:
I need to know wether to save my pennies or to buy more zombicide....

Well with the latter you know what you're getting, you know what it's made of, you know it's good and you know you can get it right away...

**Theophony**

Nostromodamus wrote:
Theophony wrote:
I need to know wether to save my pennies or to buy more zombicide....

Well with the latter you know what you're getting, you know what it's made of, you know it's good and you know you can get it right away...

But think of the lost opportunity to complain about the KS being late, Mantic changing the material, the material being soft, the usual glues not working, warped items that reward themselves even after the boiling/freezing cycle and the inevitable being able to buy it from miniaturemarket.com for the same or less than suggested retail.

**Pacific**

This is Mantic. I would be very, very surprised if there isn't more miniatures than you can paint in a year by the time that $125 boxset ships.