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I do not wish to derail your guys' thread, but I would like to mention a few things about the USA budget and Military expenses.

Throughout the entire US federal system (and local system) and especially in the military, there is a LOT of waste and mismanagement of funds. One of the biggest wastes being contractors who win a bid and charge 1000's of dollars for things like a single NAIL. I would call these things fraud and a waste, but because of the laws for some insane reason they are legal. You have spending on useless and unneeded things being paid for while the members of the military get pay cuts and in many cases the members of the military get paid LESS THAN MINIMUM WAGE.

Our whole system is an fething mess. A lot of it due to the complacence and lack of education in the voting populace. It seems like ,to me anyway, that majority have no interest in doing the work that is required to keep our system running properly. The result is we have given the reigns of government over to a bunch of morally bankrupt people who we are willing to let run things with zero consequences for anything they do. We have also let them take away much of our ability to do anything about them or the things they do.

Sorry if this is off topic to the thread. I will shut up now, and go back to watching from my cave.

 Grey Templar wrote:
All cool.

I would agree.

Schools in general spend their money on entertainment more than.... Education.... "Oh no we don't have any money, *buys a lambrogheni or a whole new stadium instead of giving students freebooks and better equipment to use for learning*"

Its really common and stupid. If Schools spent little amounts of money entertainment and spent it more on educational objects or needs, then alot of problems in the school system would be solved.

"Asherian talk about cologne's new year gang assault."

This is actually a great segaway into educating foreigners to your country, I remember that during my time in america I had to go through training to become an American. Which is the naturalization thing that every non-american wants to do to become an american. (Though instead I Did it through the school system instead, while my mother did it through the government.)

They are educated about the culture and the way of life the united states and americans in general and their culture. Less indoctrination and more teaching people how to act in this country. Just imagine if this education had happened to these foreigners of Cologne many of the problems would been alot fewer. I mean there would be a few people who are disobedient but it wouldn't be at this scale of the amount of people who are committing crimes or sexual assaults on women.

How did a thread about sexual attacks on women in Germany become a thread about US budgetary issues?

Because someone said its because police aren't funded enough, so we should defund the military and give it to the police instead.

 d-usa wrote:
How did a thread about sexual attacks on women in Germany become a thread about US budgetary issues?

Well most governments in the world put a bit too much importance on military, but sometimes it does lead to development in the military technologies and it being passed down to civilian thoughts.

I mean the united states as the best force projection on the planet.

Though in terms of budget they could cut back quite a bit. And we would be able to spend it a bit better than on military technologies. As the united states still has some of the best technologies on the planet.

 Co'tor Shas wrote:

 Grey Templar wrote:
You'd get far more money by making our educational system more efficient. The ways our school systems squander the money they are given is truly appalling. Make them more efficient so we can save money there.

Any examples or is this another "teachers are payed too much" thing.

Coughs.

"Paid".

I am pretty sure that was intentional, because 'paid' is something that they are not.

 d-usa wrote:
How did a thread about sexual attacks on women in Germany become a thread about US budgetary issues?

One cannot control the Dakka Dragon, one can only hold onto its tail and ride.

 d-usa wrote:
How did a thread about sexual attacks on women in Germany become a thread about US budgetary issues?

Every thread is secretly about the US! I mean on page 1 it was about US gun control, and now it's about US budgets. A while ago it was about US foreign policy.

Other countries don't really exist except as backdrops or examples in American stories, or places for American ancestors to come from!

So, yeah, about that topic..

 Da Boss wrote:

 d-usa wrote:
How did a thread about sexual attacks on women in Germany become a thread about US budgetary issues?

Every thread is secretly about the US! I mean on page 1 it was about US gun control, and now it's about US budgets. A while ago it was about US foreign policy.

Other countries don't really exist except as backdrops or examples in American stories, or places for American ancestors to come from!

So, yeah, about that topic..

Well spoken, you're all just our props! Now that we understand each other, carry on with the show.

 Da Boss wrote:

 d-usa wrote:
How did a thread about sexual attacks on women in Germany become a thread about US budgetary issues?

Every thread is secretly about the US! I mean on page 1 it was about US gun control, and now it's about US budgets. A while ago it was about US foreign policy.

Other countries don't really exist except as backdrops or examples in American stories, or places for American ancestors to come from!

So, yeah, about that topic..

Its even worse then that. As all roads lead to Texas, and the other states are just window dressing for its, the entire world is just a backdrop for...San Antonio.

"Dog created Texas to train the Faithful."

I personally abhor rapists. I think they get off lighter than they should most of the time. I think if they rape someone and there is no doubt forensically or otherwise that they did it and it has been proven, then the rapist should be castrated. And I don't mean chemically. Should probably remove the ruler as well as the dice bag. Women rapists should probably be handled in a slightly different fashion. What that is I can't say.

The victims speak out.

This is a direct link to the video. You don't even have to read the article, for anyone with a pathological phobia of the Daily Mail.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3386673/Women-Cologne-lockdown-council-admits-no-longer-safe-wake-African-Arab-mob-s-rapes-declares-upcoming-carnival-no-area-females.html#v-8134869708430722377

One woman had a firework shoved into her hoodie.

That sucks. And it ought make it easy to justify assault charges.

 CptJake wrote:
That sucks. And it ought make it easy to justify assault charges.

Assault charges? More like GBH. Its comparable to splashing gasoline over somebody.

Fething scum. Shoving a firework into someones clothes. It makes me so angry.

My fiancee is looking up pepper spray online. Normally, I might think that is over the top, but honestly, she has to walk home in the dark through some dodgy areas sometimes so I'm happy she's looking to her safety a bit.

 Da Boss wrote:
Fething scum. Shoving a firework into someones clothes. It makes me so angry.

My fiancee is looking up pepper spray online. Normally, I might think that is over the top, but honestly, she has to walk home in the dark through some dodgy areas sometimes so I'm happy she's looking to her safety a bit.

Make sure you guys understand local laws regarding pepper spray. I know here my wife works on a federal installation and pepper spray and tazers/stun guns are considered weapons and not allowed.

Yeah we checked it out. It's allowed, but it's use is regulated (ie. it can only be used in real cases of self defense).

But cheers, it is important to check this stuff out.

 Da Boss wrote:
Fething scum. Shoving a firework into someones clothes. It makes me so angry.

My fiancee is looking up pepper spray online. Normally, I might think that is over the top, but honestly, she has to walk home in the dark through some dodgy areas sometimes so I'm happy she's looking to her safety a bit.

Bear spray. If you can get it, thats the best.

 Da Boss wrote:
Yeah we checked it out. It's allowed, but it's use is regulated (ie. it can only be used in real cases of self defense).

But cheers, it is important to check this stuff out.

See if you can get 1 extra one for "testing".

Not on a live subject, unless someone really wants... but, it'll be good to know what to do when you discharge a pepper spray and not get caught yourself.


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 Frazzled wrote:

Bear spray. If you can get it, thats the best.

Ditto this.

Yeah, also cheers - we were planning that alright. No point in having it if you're not familiar with it's use, it's only false security then.

I mean the hope is that it would never get used but (much to my chagrin) I will feel happier if she has it.

Not on a live subject, unless someone really wants... but, it'll be good to know what to do when you discharge a pepper spray and not get caught yourself.

indeed. You should practice what it does. Might wear a face shield. Because of some testing I was able to shoot a quick squirt right into a husky's face from about 15 feet over Christmas (it was the stream type). I TOLD YOU NOT TO WITH MY DOGS.

 Grey Templar wrote:
The Cold War may be over, but there are other threats. Russia and China are still major threats, and the Middle East powder keg is becoming worse.

We aren't in a period where we can afford to deescalate. And we don't cause any harm by maintaining a large military.

Russia and China aren't threats, it is NATO that makes them into threats. The biggest threat to Europe is (just as in the past) international alliances and power blocs like NATO. The biggest risk is being dragged into a conflict by Europe's gung-ho American "allies" and their NATO lackeys. Without NATO encroaching on their turf, Russia and China would feel far less threatened and would therefore be far less hostile. The Middle East is no major military threat either as long as we don't constantly feel the need to go in there and meddle with it. NATO is like a racketeering scheme. It creates threats to which it can then offer protection to justify its existance (and therefore US influence). NATO is a tool of the US. Europe is more than capable of defending itself and doesn't need the worldwide force projecting capabilities of NATO. NATO is obsolete, and Europe would be safer without it.


Now on topic, I hope the perpetrators are identified quickly and receive severe punishment. I think it would be a good idea to confine refugees and asylum seekers to their centers unless they have a clear reason or purpose for going outside. It would stop them from hanging around and harrassing others. My town has refugees too, and they are always hanging around outside in large groups. It feels threatening. Strangely, it is only the young men that do this. Most of the refugees in my town are families, but you only rarely see older men, women or children outside.

Iron Captain, your statements unfortunately ring false given Russian actions in Ukraine.

And what else can the refugees do? They're not allowed to work, there's no entertainment in their rooms. They literally have nothing better to do.

I saw that some Syrian refugees were volunteering in the North of England to help out with the flooding, and we have Syrian volunteers that come to my school to help out. It gives them something productive to do and helps them to learn the language. Perhaps that is needed in your town too?

My town has refugees too, and they are always hanging around outside in large groups. It feels threatening. Strangely, it is only the young men that do this.

Nothing strange about it. They're young men behaving in the way that bored, unemployed, disenfranchised young men the world over behave. But the problem is compounded to an order of magnitude by the cultural differences of the countries that they were raised in, and the countries they now find themselves in.

Is pepper spray really better than mace? Or is that just hype?

 Breotan wrote:
Is pepper spray really better than mace? Or is that just hype?

Pepper spray last longer... but, I think mace is cheaper?

Or, I may have that backwards...

 Da Boss wrote:
Iron Captain, your statements unfortunately ring false given Russian actions in Ukraine.

If NATO had been dissolved after the end of the Cold War, there never would have been any Russian actions in Ukraine. Ukraine is a buffer state between NATO and Russia. Russia needs to preserve this buffer to preserve its safety. Without NATO, there would have been no need for a buffer zone, because there would be no threat from the west.

 Da Boss wrote:
And what else can the refugees do? They're not allowed to work, there's no entertainment in their rooms. They literally have nothing better to do.

Neither is there anything for them to do outside, expect harassing others. They can hang around inside. Maybe TVs, computers or some other entertainment for them would be a worthwile investment.

 Da Boss wrote:
I saw that some Syrian refugees were volunteering in the North of England to help out with the flooding, and we have Syrian volunteers that come to my school to help out. It gives them something productive to do and helps them to learn the language. Perhaps that is needed in your town too?

Yeah, initiatives like that are great. Last year, they helped our scouting group maintain a nature reserve. But not all of them want to do unpaid volunteer work. And even for those that do, there just is not enough volunteer work available.

 AlmightyWalrus wrote:
And, again, Syria isn't Morocco. I'm not arguing that the US caused these molestations or that it's related to the US at all, I'm arguing that the people in this thread that jumped straight to attacking the Syrian refugees are using deeds perpetrated by Moroccan immigrants or their descendants to attack people they don't like while completely ignoring the history of the Syrian conflict.

If I look at the Netherlands, the long term problems with the integration of Turkish and Moroccan immigrants and their descendants have made the public and politicians skeptical of granting current refugees from the Syrian, Iraqi and Eritrean conflicts permanent residency for fear of similar problems with these groups in the future. The reason for migration may be different, the outcome to the receiving society might very well be the same.

Has anyone commented on the 'no-go' zone for wimminz yet?

Isn't that what the mayor is saying?

Thought that no-go zones were a figment of our imagination.

Okay... I'll step out now.