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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/12 03:08:41
Subject: Warning -50 day moving in a Bearish manner Games Workshop Plc.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Did not see anyone else posting this so I decided to make a post.
Personally I can not stand how this game company is being ran to the ground. But it will be around for a little while longer.
But here are the URl's that you can look at.
http://www.capitalcube.com/blog/index.php/games-workshop-group-plc-breached-its-50-day-moving-average-in-a-bearish-manner-january-11-2016/
and this... however this one you may or may not have to do a survey. First time I went in I was fine, second time they wanted a survey which I left.
http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/a707e928-b5f2-11e5-b147-e5e5bba42e51.html?ftcamp=traffic/partner/feed_headline/us_yahoo/auddev#axzz3wzOtPHT6
Which is why the Stock took a tank Starting early 2016.
http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=GAW.L+Interactive#{%22range%22:%221mo%22,%22allowChartStacking%22:true}
Yea years ago I used to play at the pro level, around the world with this game, when it was actually a game to be played.
Now because of their actions that happened in 07, they are nothing like the companies, such as FFG/Assmodee as an example that they should be.
So I spend my 36 grand (or more) in hobby money a year on other hobbies, or make a few investment in game companies, or pad my portfolio even more.
But I am a business man and I know what is happening with this company. Glad I de-invested years ago.
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Adam's Motto: Paint, Create, Play, but above all, have fun. -and for something silly below-
"We are the Ultramodrines, And We Shall Fear No Trolls. bear this USR with pride".
Also, how does one apply to be a member of the Ultramodrines? Are harsh trials involved, ones that would test my faith as a wargamer and resolve as a geek?
You must recite every rule of Dakka Dakka. BACKWARDS.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/12 03:58:56
Subject: Warning -50 day moving in a Bearish manner Games Workshop Plc.
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Hacking Proxy Mk.1
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So the non economically inclined of us this means....?
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Fafnir wrote:Oh, I certainly vote with my dollar, but the problem is that that is not enough. The problem with the 'vote with your dollar' response is that it doesn't take into account why we're not buying the product. I want to enjoy 40k enough to buy back in. It was my introduction to traditional games, and there was a time when I enjoyed it very much. I want to buy 40k, but Gamesworkshop is doing their very best to push me away, and simply not buying their product won't tell them that. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/12 04:07:53
Subject: Warning -50 day moving in a Bearish manner Games Workshop Plc.
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Pustulating Plague Priest
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He doesn't have time to explain why he doesn't have time to explain!
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There’s a difference between having a hobby and being a narcissist. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/12 04:45:48
Subject: Warning -50 day moving in a Bearish manner Games Workshop Plc.
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Heroic Senior Officer
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It's stocks, and its in British.
It's like the two most confusing languages in the world, and some madman combined them.
I think what he's trying to say is that GW's projected earnings are going to be lower than they were willing to admit?
It would explain the new "getting started" bundles as a desperate grab to make the drop look less severe I guess.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/12 05:19:00
Subject: Warning -50 day moving in a Bearish manner Games Workshop Plc.
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Mechanized Halqa
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So falling share prices?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/12 07:30:58
Subject: Warning -50 day moving in a Bearish manner Games Workshop Plc.
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Krazed Killa Kan
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This is ridiculous. Almost every stock in the world is falling. Turn on the news. Apple blew through its 50 day average too. The whole market is a bear right now almost without exception. If you Brits wanna make money, short sell this dud. That's money in the bank. As "good" as AoS was, I can't wait to see their earnings report.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/12 07:37:53
Subject: Warning -50 day moving in a Bearish manner Games Workshop Plc.
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Grizzled Space Wolves Great Wolf
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Not much. It just means the price has fallen below the average for the past 50 days. Literally that's all it means If the stock was previously trading in an upwards fashion, some people might take falling below an MA to mean the trend is broken, or maybe it's just taking a breather before it continues back up again. To stay above a moving average it means you have to be consistently in an uptrend, the longer the period of the moving average (5 day, 50 day, 500 day, 5 year, etc) then the longer the period of the uptrend is. In and of itself it doesn't mean much, if you could make money off trading moving averages I'd be rich by now
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/12 08:51:35
Subject: Warning -50 day moving in a Bearish manner Games Workshop Plc.
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[MOD]
Anti-piracy Officer
Somewhere in south-central England.
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As doktor_g said, the shares of nearly everyone are falling, because of China, the Federal Reserve increasing the base rate, and the worry that it will happen soon in the UK too. At which point our credit fuelled recovery will again suddenly turn out to be a smoke and mirrors type of economy, rather than based on sound fundamentals.
GW didn't have a great six months but it was far from a bad six months. They may have stemmed the falling tide of unit sales, at any rate, which is a very good thing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/12 12:42:30
Subject: Warning -50 day moving in a Bearish manner Games Workshop Plc.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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MrMoustaffa wrote:It's stocks, and its in British.
It's like the two most confusing languages in the world, and some madman combined them.
I think what he's trying to say is that GW's projected earnings are going to be lower than they were willing to admit?
It would explain the new "getting started" bundles as a desperate grab to make the drop look less severe I guess.
More or less yes my good man.
Depending on what company and what country you are dealing with there are points in time when peanut counters will take a snap shot on how a company is shaping up.
When you invest like I do you take information like this and others that you can get your hands on such as Super Data Research or NPD (both are subscription based ) and you get an idea on the real health of a corporation if you wish to invest stock in it.
To myself what it is saying to me that for the next forseeable future, lets say 3 months you are taking a far more risk in losing some of your investment if you invested in Games workshop at this moment.
When you see a prominent person saying that is bullish for that certain type of stock you might want to take a look at it because you might have a lesser chance losing your shirt. And when if you hear someone say the phrase "neutral or hold" basically means that the stock is not going good nor bad. Sometimes you can find some good deals on companies that are on "hold".
Now in GW's Case. If fat cats like Games workshop are making different changes that they normally do not do then there must be a reason for that change.
This is an indicator MrMoustaffa and I believe you are right.
Again as stated before Investing in the stock market is a form of legalized gambling. I do not invest into foreign stock anymore. I'll stick with Nasdaq and NYSE.
And with that a humorous side note.
You know as gamers we are guilty on how we eat. Years ago in a convention as I was gobbling down a bean burrito I started to look around. Gamers generally do not eat the restaurant food. They eat the skrunt food. A lot of skrunt food. Took a year in my region to figure out which was more popular in eating habits. SO! I invested into YUM Brands stocks instead of Mc Donalds stock back then. Because I could have my Taco Bell, my Pizza Hut and my KFC chicken! Also invested into Coke-cola back then too. Gamers live on soda too.
So in ending... when someone says that a company/corporation/government/ is doing GREAT.. do a little research and see if it is true.
In GW's Case... They are not doing so great. They don't suck and they are not going away anytime soon. But they are no 800 pound Gorilla anymore. Just a 400 pound one now. I wait 3 months and see again where they stand if you want to purchase stock. And while you are waiting lets see what other business moves will be made from Games Workshop. And if they make some interesting moves that you like, well then by all means invest.
As far as 40K/WFB eh. Thanks to GW's own mistakes the board game sector is doing nicely now. I play a wide range of games (when health allows) and video games.
Now I know this might not mean much but I am looking forward to to see if this Game store chain can pull it off. As it sort of ties in to when a company is doing well or not to take a chance like this.
http://icv2.com/articles/news/view/33446/game-store-chain-coming-u-s
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Adam's Motto: Paint, Create, Play, but above all, have fun. -and for something silly below-
"We are the Ultramodrines, And We Shall Fear No Trolls. bear this USR with pride".
Also, how does one apply to be a member of the Ultramodrines? Are harsh trials involved, ones that would test my faith as a wargamer and resolve as a geek?
You must recite every rule of Dakka Dakka. BACKWARDS.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/12 14:32:14
Subject: Re:Warning -50 day moving in a Bearish manner Games Workshop Plc.
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Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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Stocks are tumbling across the board. Economic turmoil in China is sending the US and European markets into free-fall. GW is not unique in its lower price.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/13 03:42:25
Subject: Warning -50 day moving in a Bearish manner Games Workshop Plc.
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Bounding Assault Marine
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He doesn't have time to explain this to you, he has to be at the gym in 26 minutes for Chris'sakes!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/13 03:46:32
Subject: Warning -50 day moving in a Bearish manner Games Workshop Plc.
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
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It dropped 20% in 2 sessions, that isn't part of global economic turmoil.
A combination of another weak yearly report, dividends, and broader macros are doing it.
I'm probably short term bullish on them right now, but overall they're worth avoiding.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/20 22:40:27
Subject: Warning -50 day moving in a Bearish manner Games Workshop Plc.
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Utilizing Careful Highlighting
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Kimchi Gamer wrote:
He doesn't have time to explain this to you, he has to be at the gym in 26 minutes for Chris'sakes!
Have you heard this new album from Huey lewis and the news ? It rocks I've got it on compact disc !
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/21 09:17:31
Subject: Re:Warning -50 day moving in a Bearish manner Games Workshop Plc.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Although the fails are across the board is there any likelihood that smaller company's may not recover (as I know nothing about how the system works) ? Can the likes of Apple, Google, MS etc rdie it out, but a smaller company like GW suffer permanent damage, or it makes no difference?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/21 09:22:23
Subject: Warning -50 day moving in a Bearish manner Games Workshop Plc.
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[MOD]
Anti-piracy Officer
Somewhere in south-central England.
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The share price in theory is the market's appreciation of how successful the company is likely to be in the future, but this in itself makes no difference at all to a company's day to day running.
It only matters in three circumstances, if the board want to sell more shares to raise capital, or to buy up their own shares from the market, or thirdly if someone wants to make a hostile take-over by buying up the shares.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/21 09:59:28
Subject: Warning -50 day moving in a Bearish manner Games Workshop Plc.
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Fixture of Dakka
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It sounds terrible. Unless you actually you know, look at the rest of the stock market. Games Workshop's share price is just following the same trend as the major indices. The top (blue) line is GAW.L it's actually outperforming the indices. It's off of the last one your links; just click Comparison. And just for kicks, what would have happened if you invested ten thousand dollars each in GAW.L and AAPL (Apple Computer)? Oops. Blue line Games Workshop. Red line Apple. By the way, the stock market sucks right now. Lots of problems with oil and China, if you have watched the news. Don't invest unless you have money, and you're looking long term Speaking of which, GAW increased in value 55% over the last 5 years, which overperforms Dow and S&P, and underperforms Nasdaq. That's on top of the dividends you would have had paid out over all that time. Whatever else you may dislike about GW, it has been good to its shareholders financially, unless you bought at its peak in 2013 -- but you can pick a bad time to have bought into just about any stock on the stock market.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/22 15:22:04
Subject: Warning -50 day moving in a Bearish manner Games Workshop Plc.
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[DCM]
Moustache-twirling Princeps
Gone-to-ground in the craters of Coventry
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Talys wrote:Whatever else you may dislike about GW, it has been good to its shareholders financially, unless you bought at its peak in 2013 -- but you can pick a bad time to have bought into just about any stock on the stock market.
I thought it only existed these days to be good to its shareholders.
Everything they did until the end of last year looked to be purely for the shareholder boost.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/22 16:51:41
Subject: Warning -50 day moving in a Bearish manner Games Workshop Plc.
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Fixture of Dakka
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Skinnereal wrote: Talys wrote:Whatever else you may dislike about GW, it has been good to its shareholders financially, unless you bought at its peak in 2013 -- but you can pick a bad time to have bought into just about any stock on the stock market.
I thought it only existed these days to be good to its shareholders.
Everything they did until the end of last year looked to be purely for the shareholder boost.
In the long run, having customers buy stuff or doing something exciting, and being good to your shareholders are intersecting interests, though. Although a company's primary responsibility is to its shareholders, pretty much every company needs to service its customer base to do so.
The difference of opinion is that there are some people who think that GW has achieved the shareholder returns by strangling the golden goose and being horrible to its customers (ie they feel mistreated and marginalized as customers), while there are other customers who like what GW has done and continue to buy stuff. I'm sure there's some areas of grey too, where some people are somewhat unhappy but continue to buy stuff for various reasons.
Either way, it's difficult to argue, based on comparing GW's stock performance and the performance of the stock market over same period of time, that GW is a bad steward of shareholders' monies. Or, on the basis of risk versus return; it's a relatively safe stock to own, because it's a proven winner with decent dividends, and any decline will be gradual rather than sudden (you won't wake up to a worthless stock tomorrow). Sure, it's bearish now. But, that's the stock market today, because there's a lot of uncertainty and nervousness surrounding many consecutive periods of poor manufacturing reports from China, horrible stock sell-offs in China that triggered their "emergency break" stop-trading system, and record-low oil prices.
The funny thing to me is, when China makes too much stuff, Europe and America are unhappy that they're stealing all the jobs and all the money is flowing to that part of the world; when they aren't they're unhappy that the market is grinding to a halt. When oil prices are too low, Europe and America are unhappy that stocks tumble; when oil prices go up, Europe and America are unhappy that gas is unaffordable. Seems like people just can't be happy
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/22 16:58:59
Subject: Warning -50 day moving in a Bearish manner Games Workshop Plc.
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Lord Commander in a Plush Chair
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It's not 'Europe and America' that are unhappy. The general public don't like high gas prices. Investors and corporations don't like falling share prices. That's rather different groups of people.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/22 17:06:16
Subject: Warning -50 day moving in a Bearish manner Games Workshop Plc.
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Pragmatic Primus Commanding Cult Forces
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Well, what I know is this -- if you're spending $36,000 a year on the hobby, you're not managing your money well.
I mean...platinum-coated miniatures?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/22 17:31:16
Subject: Warning -50 day moving in a Bearish manner Games Workshop Plc.
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[MOD]
Anti-piracy Officer
Somewhere in south-central England.
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Howard A Treesong wrote:It's not 'Europe and America' that are unhappy. The general public don't like high gas prices. Investors and corporations don't like falling share prices. That's rather different groups of people.
I don't like falling share prices in my personal pension fund. But, it's not desperate because I'm only 53.
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