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 Malika2 wrote:
So a guy who posts on some unreliable site runs into some friend who has another friend who knows somebody who works at GW?

OMG!!!!

Ha ha, exactly what I was thinking.

At this point I am not sure what to believe, we have heard of no new chaos book until late next year, and no edition change until next summer, yet we are hearing conflicting rumors of a possible 8th this fall and WZ Fenris2 having some major expansions to chaos?

I'll just paint my dudesmen and see what time tells I think. As neat as these rumors are/would be, far too much is in conflict and 3rd or 4th hand.

   
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 Swampmist wrote:
Well, Panda just popped into the HH boardgame thread to say that we are getting both 30k and 40k Tsons. Maybe we can summon him here to confirm/deny the magnus rumor?


He did, to sum it up

- Thousand Sons models for 30k and 40k in plastic (as part of next Horus Heresy board game and Warzone Fenris II or whatever it will be called)
- Magnus The Red in plastic from GW (part of the continuation of the 40k storyline of WZ: F II)
- Lord of Change in plastic from the same artist (which is going to come at the end of the Tzeentch releases)



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Warhams-77 wrote:
 Swampmist wrote:
Well, Panda just popped into the HH boardgame thread to say that we are getting both 30k and 40k Tsons. Maybe we can summon him here to confirm/deny the magnus rumor?


He did, to sum it up

- Thousand Sons models for 30k and 40k in plastic (as part of next Horus Heresy board game and Warzone Fenris II or whatever it will be called)
- Magnus The Red in plastic from GW (part of the continuation of the 40k storyline of WZ: F II)
- Lord of Change in plastic from the same artist (which is going to come at the end of the Tzeentch releases)





I totally missed that it was him. Welp.

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No worries

Reading the Warzone Fenris eBook series gets more and more tempting...


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Now all I'm hoping for is Daemon Perturabo.

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Did he happen to give a timeline?

   
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 Red Corsair wrote:
Did he happen to give a timeline?


Last page did not have one, and neither did the HH thread, bar the fact that Magnus and the LOC got completed at the same time (or near enough)

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Warhams-77 wrote:
You mean the classic myth of GW producing Primarchs?


I'm talking about logic. Why WOULDN'T GW produce them? Their design capabilities are up for it and you can be sure that short of them screwing up design in epic catastrophic style they will sell like cold water in sahara...

It's "print me some money!" button waiting for GW to push it. Only reason they haven't pushed it yet is they have had enough of those buttons to press. Don't want to press them all or you are competing with your "let's print money!" buttons

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According to the Black Library the eBook series currently continuing the Warzone Fenris storyline will end in October. That makes it likely another campaign book will be released then.

Sad Panda's comments regarding the release timeline starting with the oldest

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/672440/8307976.page#8307976

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/672440/8315612.page#8315612

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/677083/8393545.page#8393545

He also posted HH board game II will be released in fall 2016


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tneva82 wrote:
Warhams-77 wrote:
You mean the classic myth of GW producing Primarchs?


I'm talking about logic. Why WOULDN'T GW produce them? Their design capabilities are up for it and you can be sure that short of them screwing up design in epic catastrophic style they will sell like cold water in sahara...

It's "print me some money!" button waiting for GW to push it. Only reason they haven't pushed it yet is they have had enough of those buttons to press. Don't want to press them all or you are competing with your "let's print money!" buttons


True. Now they do, although in small slices it seems

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So if 1000 Sons are going to be in the next HH box set, will the other half be Space Wolves? It would be interesting to have the Wolves attacking Prospero in 30k and the 1000 Sons to be attacking Fenris is 40k.
   
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Oh snap! That is some huge news! I may have to finally trade my Baneblades away to get the new LoC and Magnus when they release.

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 l0k1 wrote:
Oh snap! That is some huge news! I may have to finally trade my Baneblades away to get the new LoC and Magnus when they release.

Yeah, this release (if/when it ever comes) is probably going to destroy my wallet...

 
   
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tneva82 wrote:
Warhams-77 wrote:
You mean the classic myth of GW producing Primarchs?


I'm talking about logic. Why WOULDN'T GW produce them? Their design capabilities are up for it and you can be sure that short of them screwing up design in epic catastrophic style they will sell like cold water in sahara...

It's "print me some money!" button waiting for GW to push it. Only reason they haven't pushed it yet is they have had enough of those buttons to press. Don't want to press them all or you are competing with your "let's print money!" buttons


To answer the "why wouldn't they?" question, because the Heresy, Primarchs etc are supposedly the background not the game. I forget who, but someone of the ilk of Chambers, Priestley etc once said that 30K as we now know it getting released was the "in case of emergency, break glass" option that would be a clear sign that GW were struggling. Personally I think that's creatively rather than financially, but shifting a few more boxes of Space Marines was sorely needed too.

Don't get me wrong, I don't think there's a ceiling on the number of awesome models that can be released into the world, but I think outside of the TS which have needed updating for forever, this is an indicator of a lack of new ideas coming out of the studio.

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Why the TS are suddenly singled out? From no love at all they are getting 30K and 4OK and a plastic Magnus? Something doesn't add up unless it's a preview of a bigger CSM wave following that game.

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 Yaraton wrote:
Why the TS are suddenly singled out? From no love at all they are getting 30K and 4OK and a plastic Magnus? Something doesn't add up unless it's a preview of a bigger CSM wave following that game.


Because they fit in with the campaign series they're doing atm (Fenris), tie in with the 30k Prospero book, and haven't been touched for years so need an update?
   
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I don't think it's the studio running out of ideas. It's the realisation that you have to progress things if you want to maintain interest. 40k and Fantasy had both stagnated. You can only mash the retcon button so many times before folks get bored and would like to see the storyline move along. Granted, there's 10000 years of the past to go through. But you can use the 30K stuff for that, I guess.

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 Yaraton wrote:
Why the TS are suddenly singled out? From no love at all they are getting 30K and 4OK and a plastic Magnus? Something doesn't add up unless it's a preview of a bigger CSM wave following that game.


Got to start somewhere?

For a change non khorne/non nurgle release. While those are good also fun to get some other gods stuff for a change.

Expect others to come later.

Then time to start wondering if loyalist primarches start to make comebacks. Several potential ones there too.

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 angelofvengeance wrote:
I don't think it's the studio running out of ideas. It's the realisation that you have to progress things if you want to maintain interest. 40k and Fantasy had both stagnated. You can only mash the retcon button so many times before folks get bored and would like to see the storyline move along. Granted, there's 10000 years of the past to go through. But you can use the 30K stuff for that, I guess.

You can't really use something focussed entirely on the Heresy and pre Codex Marines for M36. 40K would be better for expanding fluff in the pre 40k era.

Fantasy wasn't exactly advanced. More crushed.

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I dont know. Maybe it is because I started with Epic - but it wasnt uncommon to play games in the 40k universe with Daemon Primarchs and re-create large scale conflicts.

The Armageddon 40k campaign with legendary Ghazghkull. It came first in the Wargame Series strategy board game. Within a few months they introduced the setting to Epic and 40k as well. There werent even novels about it yet. I liked those hex-tile games by Jervis Johnson (with stories from Bill King).

The 1st War for Armageddon board game featuring Angron was much more compelling than reading a small fluff text in Waaagh: Ghazghkull.

Leman Russ had a 28mm model in 1st Edition 40k. Primarch models in 28mm is nothing new. Models and rules are already available in FW's HH.

Now being able to play such epic, historic events again is cool in my opinion.

I'm looking forward to the continuation of the 40k universe. A return of Lion El Johnson and Leman Russ? Fighting Magnus and maybe Mortarion and Angron? Sounds like pretty interesting campaigns to me.


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pm713 wrote:
 angelofvengeance wrote:
I don't think it's the studio running out of ideas. It's the realisation that you have to progress things if you want to maintain interest. 40k and Fantasy had both stagnated. You can only mash the retcon button so many times before folks get bored and would like to see the storyline move along. Granted, there's 10000 years of the past to go through. But you can use the 30K stuff for that, I guess.

You can't really use something focussed entirely on the Heresy and pre Codex Marines for M36. 40K would be better for expanding fluff in the pre 40k era.

Fantasy wasn't exactly advanced. More crushed.


I'm pretty sure FW are planning to do a Scouring series after the Heresy stuff so that would probably be good for the time between 30k and 40k.
   
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 angelofvengeance wrote:
I don't think it's the studio running out of ideas. It's the realisation that you have to progress things if you want to maintain interest. 40k and Fantasy had both stagnated. You can only mash the retcon button so many times before folks get bored and would like to see the storyline move along. Granted, there's 10000 years of the past to go through. But you can use the 30K stuff for that, I guess.

So you mean that GW has finally realised that the game's oldest core army model line, that has had all of 4 whopping new plastic kits over the past 9-10 years and which is missing half more of it's basic options, might possibly be the reason people are bored with said army?!

Maybe there's a small ray of hope yet for GW!?

For what's supposedly a 'model company first and foremost', they sure seem to have a hate-on for one of their most iconic & story-important model lines, eh?

 
   
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 Azreal13 wrote:
To answer the "why wouldn't they?" question, because the Heresy, Primarchs etc are supposedly the background not the game. I forget who, but someone of the ilk of Chambers, Priestley etc once said that 30K as we now know it getting released was the "in case of emergency, break glass" option that would be a clear sign that GW were struggling. Personally I think that's creatively rather than financially, but shifting a few more boxes of Space Marines was sorely needed too.


Your last sentence is the important piece. Priestley is a creative professional. Most businesses don't put good product ideas that'd be highly popular and profitable in some imaginary glass box because they're afraid of what it might say about them on a creative level.

I welcome the arrival of Daemon Prince Magnus, if only because it means that Daemon Prince Angron may not be *too* far behind.

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I'm very hyped about the possibility of getting my thousand sons cheaper and with better models.

I'm kind of afraid of the Magnus release because this is the first Primarch they'll introduce, so it will very much be testing the waters. He could be very overpowered, which would be welcome change for CSM, but not for very long because OP stuff gets boring really quickly.
Alternatively, he could be very 'meh' or worse, in which case GW will probably up the ante for the primarchs to come, leaving him in a crippled, nearly useless state because of his lack of power compared to other primarchs.

However, I'm keeping my hopes up as always.

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Experiment 626 wrote:
 angelofvengeance wrote:
I don't think it's the studio running out of ideas. It's the realisation that you have to progress things if you want to maintain interest. 40k and Fantasy had both stagnated. You can only mash the retcon button so many times before folks get bored and would like to see the storyline move along. Granted, there's 10000 years of the past to go through. But you can use the 30K stuff for that, I guess.

So you mean that GW has finally realised that the game's oldest core army model line, that has had all of 4 whopping new plastic kits over the past 9-10 years and which is missing half more of it's basic options, might possibly be the reason people are bored with said army?!

Maybe there's a small ray of hope yet for GW!?

For what's supposedly a 'model company first and foremost', they sure seem to have a hate-on for one of their most iconic & story-important model lines, eh?


Welcome, to the Silver Tower of Rountree. Hard plastic scenic bases/basing kits, Tzaangors, Genestealer Cults, Horus Heresy boxed games... Truly GW is becoming as mercurial as the Lord of Change...

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So in a few posts we have gone from "no way" to "this is happening"?
   
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 angelofvengeance wrote:
Experiment 626 wrote:
 angelofvengeance wrote:
I don't think it's the studio running out of ideas. It's the realisation that you have to progress things if you want to maintain interest. 40k and Fantasy had both stagnated. You can only mash the retcon button so many times before folks get bored and would like to see the storyline move along. Granted, there's 10000 years of the past to go through. But you can use the 30K stuff for that, I guess.

So you mean that GW has finally realised that the game's oldest core army model line, that has had all of 4 whopping new plastic kits over the past 9-10 years and which is missing half more of it's basic options, might possibly be the reason people are bored with said army?!

Maybe there's a small ray of hope yet for GW!?

For what's supposedly a 'model company first and foremost', they sure seem to have a hate-on for one of their most iconic & story-important model lines, eh?


Welcome, to the Silver Tower of Rountree. Hard plastic scenic bases/basing kits, Tzaangors, Genestealer Cults, Horus Heresy boxed games... Truly GW is becoming as mercurial as the Lord of Change...


Everything you just said is reminding me how much I am loving about the Age of Roundtree. Starting with "Start Collecting Boxes", through today, its like a different GW, and I love it.

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All praise unto Roundtree! May his reign never end.

Super hyped for warzone Fenris part two! Can't wait to see the core choice for Bran Redmaw...

   
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NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:
 angelofvengeance wrote:
Experiment 626 wrote:
 angelofvengeance wrote:
I don't think it's the studio running out of ideas. It's the realisation that you have to progress things if you want to maintain interest. 40k and Fantasy had both stagnated. You can only mash the retcon button so many times before folks get bored and would like to see the storyline move along. Granted, there's 10000 years of the past to go through. But you can use the 30K stuff for that, I guess.

So you mean that GW has finally realised that the game's oldest core army model line, that has had all of 4 whopping new plastic kits over the past 9-10 years and which is missing half more of it's basic options, might possibly be the reason people are bored with said army?!

Maybe there's a small ray of hope yet for GW!?

For what's supposedly a 'model company first and foremost', they sure seem to have a hate-on for one of their most iconic & story-important model lines, eh?


Welcome, to the Silver Tower of Rountree. Hard plastic scenic bases/basing kits, Tzaangors, Genestealer Cults, Horus Heresy boxed games... Truly GW is becoming as mercurial as the Lord of Change...


Everything you just said is reminding me how much I am loving about the Age of Roundtree. Starting with "Start Collecting Boxes", through today, its like a different GW, and I love it.


Exactly. I went from buying only GW paint to doubling my daemon army and buying Calth, Renegade and Silver Tower. Plus 5 SC boxes. May Rountree run the company until I grow too old to paint!

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 angelofvengeance wrote:
Experiment 626 wrote:
 angelofvengeance wrote:
I don't think it's the studio running out of ideas. It's the realisation that you have to progress things if you want to maintain interest. 40k and Fantasy had both stagnated. You can only mash the retcon button so many times before folks get bored and would like to see the storyline move along. Granted, there's 10000 years of the past to go through. But you can use the 30K stuff for that, I guess.

So you mean that GW has finally realised that the game's oldest core army model line, that has had all of 4 whopping new plastic kits over the past 9-10 years and which is missing half more of it's basic options, might possibly be the reason people are bored with said army?!

Maybe there's a small ray of hope yet for GW!?

For what's supposedly a 'model company first and foremost', they sure seem to have a hate-on for one of their most iconic & story-important model lines, eh?


Welcome, to the Silver Tower of Rountree. Hard plastic scenic bases/basing kits, Tzaangors, Genestealer Cults, Horus Heresy boxed games... Truly GW is becoming as mercurial as the Lord of Change...


So I assume he is like some messiah now? He is not the true messiah until he updates Tyranids and Chaos. *please pretty please* Ha I am joking yeah he is doing good it seems many of the GW managers/area managers like his changes.

Experiment 626 wrote:
 angelofvengeance wrote:
I don't think it's the studio running out of ideas. It's the realisation that you have to progress things if you want to maintain interest. 40k and Fantasy had both stagnated. You can only mash the retcon button so many times before folks get bored and would like to see the storyline move along. Granted, there's 10000 years of the past to go through. But you can use the 30K stuff for that, I guess.

So you mean that GW has finally realised that the game's oldest core army model line, that has had all of 4 whopping new plastic kits over the past 9-10 years and which is missing half more of it's basic options, might possibly be the reason people are bored with said army?!

Maybe there's a small ray of hope yet for GW!?

For what's supposedly a 'model company first and foremost', they sure seem to have a hate-on for one of their most iconic & story-important model lines, eh?


That was the business vampire Kirby that said that. Curse his name!

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