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I'm sure we've all read through a codex and seen an option that simply didn't seem to belong there.


For me it is Thousand Son Aspiring Sorcerers (as in the squad leaders) being able to take Gift of Mutation... Didn't Ahriman's Rubric fix that!?

Post the options you think make no sense! Refute/rationalise the options other people think make no sense!

AoBF in C:CSM gives rage, but requires MoK to take, which gives rage.

 MarsNZ wrote:
AoBF in C:CSM gives rage, but requires MoK to take, which gives rage.

That's 100% more rage!

The one FSE formation that allows you to fire all your Skyrays missiles in one turn after moving. They can already do that. -_- Talk about 150% useless.

Stick chucka's for ork transports.

It gives pasengers Stick bombz if they assault out of the transport, but they aleady have stick bombz all the time. Except for grots but nobody is assaulting with those.

 MarsNZ wrote:
AoBF in C:CSM gives rage, but requires MoK to take, which gives rage.

If you take a Daemon Prince, it will get Daemon of Khorne, not Mark of Khorne and thus not Rage. So it makes sense for a DP.

Stikkbomb Chukka is an upgrade for Ork vehicles that allows disembarking units have stikkbombs for the turn. All Orks except grots have stikkbombs by default.

Red paint on ork fliers

Why would you ever want them to go +1" on flat out moves :\


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 Vankraken wrote:
Stikkbomb Chukka is an upgrade for Ork vehicles that allows disembarking units have stikkbombs for the turn. All Orks except grots have stikkbombs by default.

My stick bombz are faster

The Dark Apostle can take VotLW for free which gives him Hatred: Space Marines despite the fact he has zealot. Feels like a fluffy thing to me but that doesnt seem like GW to me.

From the new Relics in Curse of the Wulfen;
1. The Unending Grimoire - Can only be taken by a Herald of Tzeentch.
If your Warlord generates ALL their psychic powers from the Lore of Tzeentch, they instead know all 6 spells.

The issue; The rules for Daemons generating their powers from the God specific lores were never changed. Thus, a model can only generate up to half their powers from their own God's spell lore...
Meaning, the item is 100% unusable by a LoC Warlord (as he comes base with Mastery Lv2!). Hence, you are forced to take a Lv1 Tzherald as your Warlord, who while knowing all 7 spells in the new Tzeentch lore, can only ever cast 1 spell/turn!

Hooray for item that has 0 synergies!


2. Whips of Agony - Can only be taken by an Exalted Alluress. (the chick who drives those Slaany chariots)
Any model that suffers any unsaved wounds from attacks by this weapon cannot make attacks for the rest of the Fight sub-phase.

The issue; The new Relics can only be taken by anyone who can take a 30pts Exalted Reward. Sadly, an Exalted Alluress is limited to taking up to just 20pts worth of Rewards, meaning that legally, she can never take this relic which is limited just to her!

Farsight Enclaves having access to Ethereals, that was the whole point why he left the Empire in the first place!

Lack of Lasgun/Hellgun options on Guard and Stormtrooper Sergeants.
Removal of the Autotargeting System on the Hydra Flak Tank. Seriously, the one and only friggin' advantage that the Hydra had over any other AA option
Orders having a tiny, tiny radius and Vox-Casters being such a hefty points cost that does not allow you to ignore that range.

But the #1 codex option that makes no sense?
Early-Warning Override being 5 points.

All ork vehicles may take Stikkbomb launchas.

Which give stikkbombs to any unit on the vehicle.

Except all ork models have stikkbombs.

Flesh tearers using BA Hq's including named ones : \

the_scotsman wrote:
All ork vehicles may take Stikkbomb launchas.

Which give stikkbombs to any unit on the vehicle.

Except all ork models have stikkbombs.

It's also another weapon so it's not totally useless.

If you really want a WTF rule in the Ork Codex, Mad Dok has a Cybork body (FnP 6+) as well as Dok's Tools (FnP 5+ for himself and rest of unit)

Space marine command squad... all the veterans can take a stormshield but if you upgrade one of them to a champion, the best warrior in the company, he only gets a combat shield. Best fighter not allowed to have the best gear.... makes sense right?

 Kanluwen wrote:
Lack of Lasgun/Hellgun options on Guard and Stormtrooper Sergeants.

That's something I really like about the Elysian list - sarge can take a rifle.

 gmaleron wrote:
Farsight Enclaves having access to Ethereals, that was the whole point why he left the Empire in the first place!

This thing has puzzled me for ages, just like why Spaces Wolves and Black templars are battle brothers with Grey knights..

SM scout bikers come with shotguns. And TL’d bolters on the relentless bikes. Even if you replace the bolters with the AGL, it’s still better in ever way then the shotgun.

Unless you are intentionally sandbagging your damage you will never shoot it. The only reason to have them is the boost to coolness that shotguns give.

Daemons losing Eternal Warrior.

A daemon is literally eternal, as in the 40k setting they can only be banished, not killed.

Actually, any Chaos Character that don't have Eternal Warrior. Especially Kharn, who was actually killed at one point and revived. And Lucius too.

Another one is Bloodcrushers having no armor whatsoever. It's a freaking angry metal rhino, how does it have no armor?

For a non-chaos one, the Necron Destroyer's Gauss Cannon. It's always had four barrels but it went from 3 shots to 2 shots. Even if it was nerfed, it should have had 4 shots! It has four barrels!

The Gauss Cannon has four chambers, but there is only one barrel producing any shots.

 oldzoggy wrote:

 gmaleron wrote:
Farsight Enclaves having access to Ethereals, that was the whole point why he left the Empire in the first place!

This thing has puzzled me for ages, just like why Spaces Wolves and Black templars are battle brothers with Grey knights..

The Black Templar fluff has been "psykers suck. Except for GKs, theyre cool" for a couple decades now.

Grey Knights should definitely have a different alliance chart. That's definitely something 6th did correct.

 MechaEmperor7000 wrote:
Daemons losing Eternal Warrior.

A daemon is literally eternal, as in the 40k setting they can only be banished, not killed.

Actually, any Chaos Character that don't have Eternal Warrior. Especially Kharn, who was actually killed at one point and revived. And Lucius too.

Another one is Bloodcrushers having no armor whatsoever. It's a freaking angry metal rhino, how does it have no armor?

For a non-chaos one, the Necron Destroyer's Gauss Cannon. It's always had four barrels but it went from 3 shots to 2 shots. Even if it was nerfed, it should have had 4 shots! It has four barrels!

Daemons can be killed, they can suffer True Death whereby they are destroyed inmall ways. Usually it requires some kind of Saint's sharpened femur and the daemon's True Name. M'kar the Reborn was Truely Killed during his last invasion on Ultramar last I checked. And, the idea was that Grey Knights, all wielding Force Weapons, can't use the main feature of their weapons on their prime target that the weapon is designed to kill. Hence why EW was removed.

 Deadshot wrote:
Daemons can be killed, they can suffer True Death whereby they are destroyed inmall ways. Usually it requires some kind of Saint's sharpened femur and the daemon's True Name. M'kar the Reborn was Truely Killed during his last invasion on Ultramar last I checked. And, the idea was that Grey Knights, all wielding Force Weapons, can't use the main feature of their weapons on their prime target that the weapon is designed to kill. Hence why EW was removed.

The fact that they actually had the rule at one point and that GW had to come up with an explanation just shows that they backtracked on it because otherwise it would have made Daemons powerful.

Plus, other justifications for other rule-oddities exists, like Farsight technically having some Ethereal advisors just before he broke off from the empire being the reason why he can still take Ethereals in his army. Doesn't make it any less weird, especially when you have to voodoo shark it.

EDIT: On the subject of the Destroyer's shots, at least now having 2 shots makes some sense. When a gun has 4 chambers/barrels but only produce 3 shots a turn, that's when I go wtf.

Experiment 626, read the relics text again. It only says "daemons that are able to take rewards" they do not need access to an exalted reward to take the new relics. So the exalted Alluress can take the whip.



Also it's my belief that these psychic tables replace the old ones as they all contain the same spells + new ones and the obvious intent regarding that relic and the new psyker tables is to NOT carry that restriction forward.

I haven't seen the relic's cost, but according to everyone else, it's not a restriction of whether or not the Alluress can take Exalted Rewards, but that the Alluress can only take 20 points of rewards, which is LESS than the cost of the relic.

Who cares? The relic doesn't count towards reward cost, like it says in the text. The artifacts aren't rewards either, they're artifacts and the wording keeps them from being restricted by the "up to 20 pts of daemonic rewards" text. She can take the whip and 20 pts of rewards if you want.

Furthermore 626, a lvl 1 psyker can cast as many powers as he knows until your warp charge pool is depleted. There is no restriction saying he can only cast one power if he's a ml1 psyker.

dsmith10 wrote:
Space marine command squad... all the veterans can take a stormshield but if you upgrade one of them to a champion, the best warrior in the company, he only gets a combat shield. Best fighter not allowed to have the best gear.... makes sense right?

Depending on how you look at it, that is a blessing and a curse. +1A is good, but with only a power sword and 3+/6++ to save you...

 MechaEmperor7000 wrote:
I haven't seen the relic's cost, but according to everyone else, it's not a restriction of whether or not the Alluress can take Exalted Rewards, but that the Alluress can only take 20 points of rewards, which is LESS than the cost of the relic.

Which doesn't matter becasue relics don't use up the points allotment for rewards