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Doesn't make the content we know so far any better, but it's extremely well-cut.
Extremely well cut to the extent that everything flashed before my eyes before it registered!
Maybe that was deliberate!
This film will suck harder than an hundred industrial vacuum cleaners jury rigged onto a hovercraft powered by a runaway generator with all the safeties removed.
kronk wrote: The back and forth about will it suck or won't it for various reasons is more entertaining than the movie promises to be.
Please, continue.
Happy now?
n'oublie jamais - It appears I now have to highlight this again.
It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion. By the juice of the brew my thoughts aquire speed, my mind becomes strained, the strain becomes a warning. It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion.
Wow, an artistic drought? That is some pretty harsh language. I mean, you didn't like a few movies that have come out, but an artistic drought? There have been plenty of amazing movies that have come out very recently. Also, I really enjoyed The Force Awakens so it might be that some people have a different opinion of what is good compared to you.
I dunno, people being individuals and making their own decisions. Crazy thoughts for a crazy world.
It's the lack of originality. TFA was a pretty bland remake of ANH and a lot of movies that come out nowadays are pretty open about being remakes of popular movies of the past or just the same movie every single time (looking at you, Mr. Statham). As others stated, that's fully understandable. Netflix has really ruined the cinema's day. It's far, far cheaper, it's more comfortable and it allows for...more...stuff to do than you could do at the movies. The movie industry is extremely expensive and with series now taking a good chunk of people who would formerly go to the cinema because it was the place to be for interesting content, it's a lot smarter to pull off the safety card and make bland rehashes / trying to maximize broadening your audience instead of trying to be original.
Ghostbusters wants to gather the old nostalgia crowd and puts some SJW / "woooo 3D CGI!" stuff in to further broaden the audience. It's a smart business decision, but mark my words, the movie will suck.
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Dakka Dakka Off-Topic: "Stop liking what I don't like!".
Based on who is already tearing this movie apart, and their track record with other movies talked about in the OT, I'll probably end up seeing it in the theater.
timetowaste85 wrote: So, D, you're saying you saw FF in theaters? Good waste of $13!
I actually did see FF in theaters... both the wife and I saw the reviews and said (before going), "it can't possibly be as bad as that, right?" I honestly thought people were still butthurt over the casting of Johnnie Storm and were taking that anger out on the reviews.
It was one instance in which the trailers and reviews did not lie
d-usa wrote: Based on who is already tearing this movie apart, and their track record with other movies talked about in the OT, I'll probably end up seeing it in the theater.
Going to see a movie just to spite people is a form of self flagellation I'm just not into.
Fate is in heaven, armor is on the chest, accomplishment is in the feet. - Nagao Kagetora
d-usa wrote: Based on who is already tearing this movie apart, and their track record with other movies talked about in the OT, I'll probably end up seeing it in the theater.
Going to see a movie just to spite people is a form of self flagellation I'm just not into.
There is just a tiny bit of a difference between "these guys suck, I will watch the movie to spite them" and "they sad similar things about these other movies that I enjoyed, so chances are that I'm going to enjoy this one".
What other reason could there be for having women, including a black women, in a movie that previously starred 4 men?
They didn't have to pay them as much and they're less likely to ask to see the script before signing on with the film?
Maybe that. Maybe they wanted to pander to SJWs. Maybe they looked at demographics and said "there aren't a lot of movies starring women, so women will want to see this". Maybe they decided to go with the "the original was X so we will redo it with Y" formula. Maybe they just liked these actresses and figured this was a good excuse to get them on a project together that complemented their styles. Maybe they were the best 4 people on the casting couch.
n'oublie jamais - It appears I now have to highlight this again.
It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion. By the juice of the brew my thoughts aquire speed, my mind becomes strained, the strain becomes a warning. It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion.
kronk wrote: The back and forth about will it suck or won't it for various reasons is more entertaining than the movie promises to be.
Please, continue.
Yeah, ever since they announced the reboot, and that it would be an all-woman lineup, the drama surrounding this has been... well, what I sort of expect from the internet now, unfortunately.
Isn't there usually drama behind any remake, reboot, reimagining, prequel, etc of a beloved franchise? I mean whether there was an all female cast or not I have a feeling this movie was going to be under heavy scrutiny.
In response to my earlier comments about artistic droughts, sequels, remakes, and re-boots - I can list the following films from the top of my head that have appeared in recent years, which are earlier remakes, reboots, sequels, re-bott sequels, or sequel sequels!
Mad Max
Jurassic Park/World
Superman (it's not that long since Kevin Stacey played Lex Luthor!)
Re-make of Star wars a new hope Spiderman
14 Iron Man films
27 avengers films
Captain America (still waiting for Captain Confederacy )
Point Break! Damn you forever Hollywood! Ghostbusters
Indiana Jones and the crystal bulltgak
Kung Fu Panda 1-11
Rocky 1-11
Terminator whatever the feth that monstrosity was called Transformers
Fast and Furious (the car films not the ATF scandal!)
and so on and so on.
This year's big releases are comic book made into films, and oh, another comic book adaption.
I'm old enough to remember the days when people read comics, and not watched them!
People may think that I'm a bitter person for these kind of rants, but it's because I love the cinema so much, that I'm reduced to jumping up and down like this. The Western world seems to be stuck in this adolescent bubble, where serious films and serious ideas are frowned in culture, and instead, we get this conveyor belt of gak heading our way on a weekly basis, because people want to play out their fantasies of dressing up as a superhero and run around beating the gak out of people.
You look at 1970s Hollywood and some of the fantastic films that were made, and you wonder why they can't or don't do that any more...
Rant over!
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d-usa wrote: Dakka Dakka Off-Topic: "Stop liking what I don't like!".
Based on who is already tearing this movie apart, and their track record with other movies talked about in the OT, I'll probably end up seeing it in the theater.
Opinion is not prohibition. If you see me outside your local cinema trying to deny you entry, then you'd have a point. Just because I don't like the idea of a film, doesn't mean I'm trying to stop people from going to see it.
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"Our crops will wither, our children will die piteous
deaths and the sun will be swept from the sky. But is it true?" - Tom Kirby, CEO, Games Workshop Ltd
Cheesecat wrote: Or you can read a few reviews before making a purchase (or not) I mean Rotten tomatoes and IMDB do exist...
Or just use the common sense God gave you to see this bomb coming from a mile away.
I mean judging by the trailer it looks awful but then again most comedy trailers are awful so it's really hard to go by just trailers even when I like the movie (like Deadpool and Hot Fuzz didn't have funny trailers but were funny movies). So common sense would tell me that cause the trailer is
bad and that often remakes, reboots, reimaginings, prequels, etc of established retro franchises are mediocre or worse I should give this a pass, but you know what I usually don't go by trailers as they aren't often a good gauge on whether a film is good or not and there has been good
remakes, reboots, reimaginings, prequels, etc (like True Grit, Bat Man, Mad Max, The Thing, Dracula, King Kong (although it has some flaws), Scarface, Little Shop of Horrors, 3:10 to Yuma, The Fly, Insomnia, Hairspray, Invasion of the Body Snatchers, The Departed, James Bond, Fistful of
Dollars, Magnificent 7, Dredd, etc) so despite what common sense says I think I'll wait till the reviews before making a final judgement.
You guys act like there aren't dozens of artsy little independent films coming out every year. Just because they don't appear in every theater or make hundreds of millions of dollars doesn't mean they don't exist. Look up your local independent theater if you want those same kind of films. People are still making them, probably for the same budgets and same box office returns as actual 70's films.
It's also kind of funny that you mention the 70's as a high water mark of cinema. Sure, people remember a lot of classics from that era...but they don't remember all of the crap that used to be made. One of my coworkers is an aficionado of schlocky 70's films, and trust me, they are legion. Just wait 25 years and you will hear everyone complaining about all the Robowuxia crap that's popular and how no one makes thoughtful sci fi like The Martian or Ex Machina any more.
Glass half-full, another Melissa McCarthy film, Spy, had trailers that didn't exactly inspire confidence in its quality, but it turned out to be a legitimately hilarious film. We shall see with this, I suppose.
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Yeah, I saw the redone trailer yesterday. It's an improvement but still not particularly funny and the special effects still look like scenes cut from a Scooby Doo movie. I did like that they addressed the allegations of sexism and racism in a tongue in cheek manner via scenes from the movie... that was about the only part that I found funny. It's sad that the folks who worked on movies that I really enjoyed like Bridesmaid and Spy ended up with *this* as the result. I guess everyone strikes out sometime.
If I've been out on the town, downed a few drinks, and somebody says lets go and see this, I'll probably stumble into the cinema, and sleep through it.
But watching it stone cold sober? Highly unlikely...
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BobtheInquisitor wrote: You guys act like there aren't dozens of artsy little independent films coming out every year. Just because they don't appear in every theater or make hundreds of millions of dollars doesn't mean they don't exist. Look up your local independent theater if you want those same kind of films. People are still making them, probably for the same budgets and same box office returns as actual 70's films.
It's also kind of funny that you mention the 70's as a high water mark of cinema. Sure, people remember a lot of classics from that era...but they don't remember all of the crap that used to be made. One of my coworkers is an aficionado of schlocky 70's films, and trust me, they are legion. Just wait 25 years and you will hear everyone complaining about all the Robowuxia crap that's popular and how no one makes thoughtful sci fi like The Martian or Ex Machina any more.
I'm not suggesting for a minute that the 1970s didn't contain bad films. I'm saying that the culture in the main studios was different to what it is today. Chinatown being a famous example of a film being made that wasn't asked for, but the studio took anyway.
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"Our crops will wither, our children will die piteous
deaths and the sun will be swept from the sky. But is it true?" - Tom Kirby, CEO, Games Workshop Ltd
I do find it funny that some of the posters on here are attacking those of us who think this movie looks terrible. We're not racist, sexist, or any other 'ist'. We just recognize a turd movie when we see an awful trailer. But that won't stop the posters who are always looking for a fight and righting wrongs that don't actually exist. Stay classy, guys!
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