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OgreChubbs wrote:

 Zywus wrote:

OgreChubbs wrote:
Wow i never hated something so much in my life. So fantasy really is dead it is just sifi.....

Warhammer fantasy has been dead for about a year now. It just took these Orcs orruks cosplaying as Orks for you to see it,apparently.

i still thought it was suppose to be set in a fantasy area. But this is straight sifi all the need are the tall naked aliens walking around with probs.

Empire is totally getting ak's

Yeah, no. Do you see laserguns? Do you see tanks? How about anything higher tech than the medieval era? No, no, and no. Complain about the aesthetics all you want, but this is not sci fi in any way.

~Tim?

Looks pretty much like a Meganob to me.

Whatever though. Man. I was hoping there'd be a couple of cool minis coming my way from this, but I'm doubtful if any of the orcs in that style are going to interest me.

Sad. GW Orcs were some of my favourite minis to paint and mess around with.

urm?

 Some_Call_Me_Tim? wrote:

OgreChubbs wrote:

 Zywus wrote:

OgreChubbs wrote:
Wow i never hated something so much in my life. So fantasy really is dead it is just sifi.....

Warhammer fantasy has been dead for about a year now. It just took these Orcs orruks cosplaying as Orks for you to see it,apparently.

i still thought it was suppose to be set in a fantasy area. But this is straight sifi all the need are the tall naked aliens walking around with probs.

Empire is totally getting ak's

Yeah, no. Do you see laserguns? Do you see tanks? How about anything higher tech than the medieval era? No, no, and no. Complain about the aesthetics all you want, but this is not sci fi in any way.

~Tim?

Agreed. It's just an Orc in plate armour, and the yellow makes it look a bit like meganobz. There's nothing actually sci fi about it.

 Da Boss wrote:
Looks pretty much like a Meganob to me.

Whatever though. Man. I was hoping there'd be a couple of cool minis coming my way from this, but I'm doubtful if any of the orcs in that style are going to interest me.

Sad. GW Orcs were some of my favourite minis to paint and mess around with.

The pixels we can see of the Maw-Krusha's seem somewhat promising, as far as pixels go.

~Tim?

I've had an orc and goblin army in just about every edition of the game and am extremely glad to see a change from the hunched over gorilla orcs of old.
I wonder if/how they'll update the goblins?

Looks to 40kish, but I think they are entirely salvageable with a competent paint scheme. Seriously, their choice of colors here is just... asinine.

These are the Ironjawz after all. They are meant to be the AOS evolution of the Black Orcs.

A bigger black orc I would have been okay with, but the armour is too all encompassing for the aesthetic I preferfor Orcs. I think it should be more rag tag and show more layers and so on.


But yeah, it might well be that awful yellow colour scheme causing my eyes to glaze over.

Interesting, I'd say. Need sharper photos of course, but I am cautiously optimistic that these guys can be able to add some nice variety to my Snakebites and Evil Sunz.

I wonder where he got that Tyranid skull though. Maybe there's a hivefleet approaching Azyr?

 Da Boss wrote:
A bigger black orc I would have been okay with, but the armour is too all encompassing for the aesthetic I preferfor Orcs. I think it should be more rag tag and show more layers and so on.


But yeah, it might well be that awful yellow colour scheme causing my eyes to glaze over.

Hmm, it could be the paintjob but it doesn't really look all that disimilar.

Hmm looking at this art there are a few things of interest here:

1) Orc Shaman with staff
2) At least 3 different weapon options for the orc warriors kit which I'm presuming is what;s in the blurry pics. Sword and shield, spear, double handed ax all appear to be options.
3) The orc fortress in the distance has a very WOW aesthetic
4) Not sure if the serpentine dragon heads are meant to be parts of the building decor or some tye of monster. Either way. very neat.
5) The dragon (maw crusha?) is certainly a dual kit

I agree that the yellow is dreadful here. They would have looked amazing in chipped black armor or naturally oxidized brass, or rusty metal.

It's all in the little details.

I'm not interested in arguing about it with you to be honest. I have those black orcs, and despite the angles in that photo I can tell you that their ankles and torsos are not armoured to the same degree - there are layers of chain, cloth and then the plates which are what stand out from the angles these photos were taken.

Due to the angle on the other photo, I can see that what you have is a much more all encompassing plate armour. If something comes along later to show that it's not so, I'll be happy.

 Hive City Dweller wrote:


Hmm looking at this art there are a few things of interest here:

1) Orc Shaman with staff
2) At least 3 different weapon options for the orc warriors kit which I'm presuming is what;s in the blurry pics. Sword and shield, spear, double handed ax all appear to be options.
3) The orc fortress in the distance has a very WOW aesthetic
4) Not sure if the serpentine dragon heads are meant to be parts of the building decor or some tye of monster. Either way. very neat.
5) The dragon (maw crusha?) is certainly a dual kit

I agree that the yellow is dreadful here. They would have looked amazing in chipped black armor or naturally oxidized brass, or rusty metal.

I do believe that Fortress is a Chaos Dreadfort and that the serpentine dragon heads are part of building decor.

 Hive City Dweller wrote:
3) The orc fortress in the distance has a very WOW aesthetic

I believe that is an artist's interpretation of the Chaos Dreadhold that the Orruks are fighting towards (and not coming from).

 Hive City Dweller wrote:
4) Not sure if the serpentine dragon heads are meant to be parts of the building decor or some tye of monster. Either way. very neat.

Again, it looks like an artist's interpretation of the Ophidian Archway.

 Ghaz wrote:

 Hive City Dweller wrote:
3) The orc fortress in the distance has a very WOW aesthetic

I believe that is an artist's interpretation of the Chaos Dreadhold that the Orruks are fighting towards (and not coming from).

 Hive City Dweller wrote:
4) Not sure if the serpentine dragon heads are meant to be parts of the building decor or some tye of monster. Either way. very neat.

Again, it looks like an artist's interpretation of the Ophidian Archway.

Makes sense, it looked to me like they were spilling out of it, but a closer look does indeed make it look like the dread fort.

Oh boy, GW still picking the best colour schemes for there photos I see Underneath all that yellow I think he looks promising, looking forward to better pics.
It would be neat if the Silver tower game had some way of using main line AoS hero(the un mounted ones ofc) models.

Love that artwork. As ever, the pictures are too small and blurry to judge, and when the better pictures emerge it'll be easier to judge. Looks like they've put some effort in with this though, which is great. I'm glad it's not just the same old orcs.

Little bit of fluff on this pic:



I like the idea of the alpha clan of orcs, while we still have the savage variety on the other end of the scale.

Have bad moonOrks 40K and love this new brighter yellow scheme from 2-3 years ago. But....this is...different. Needs to let it soak in.

Huh, they look pretty good. (Though that first blurry photo hurt my eyes)

Really wanting to see another paint-scheme on them as well, whatever an Orc player comes up with will look infinitely better and more menacing.

Though I do want to know why the yellow lore-wise. I'm betting they either wanted to mimic the Stormcasts (they had fought as allies to Sigmar once) or more comically this could be the new version of "the red ones go faster" with "yellow hits harder!"

 Some_Call_Me_Tim? wrote:

OgreChubbs wrote:

 Zywus wrote:

OgreChubbs wrote:
Wow i never hated something so much in my life. So fantasy really is dead it is just sifi.....

Warhammer fantasy has been dead for about a year now. It just took these Orcs orruks cosplaying as Orks for you to see it,apparently.

i still thought it was suppose to be set in a fantasy area. But this is straight sifi all the need are the tall naked aliens walking around with probs.

Empire is totally getting ak's

Yeah, no. Do you see laserguns? Do you see tanks? How about anything higher tech than the medieval era? No, no, and no. Complain about the aesthetics all you want, but this is not sci fi in any way.

~Tim?

Also doesn't look like WFB in any way

I'll hold judgement until i can paint my own, but I don't think i like it. Cool maybe for 40k conversions. The yellow color scheme is horrible.

On the painting we have the designs of ironjaw footsloggers, the mawcrusher and a shaman. That leaves a couple of characters, different versions of mawcrushers with riders and one or two different kind of footsloggers.

And then there are the rules... the ironjaws look big and menacing and armoured, so I look forward to what the AoS boys have cooked up. I really hope it is more challenging than the rules for black orcs - having boyz stay near boss for +1 to hit and a menacing morale rule is a bit boring.

Ironic that AoS orcs are getting such a retooling.

I don't like the aesthetic - at all. Huge downgrade from black orcs and too 40k. Looks like all these computer artists are ruining everything.

But this is easily the most exciting thing ruleswise I could have imagined. That megaboss looks like an absolute savage. Sort of funny when you consider how bad they railroaded the Ork codex and that crummy attempt at a decurion in W!G.

Edit; I would just play Black orcs with that statline if anybody would let me. They look like they're gonna be what black orcs should have been.

 usernamesareannoying wrote:
I've had an orc and goblin army in just about every edition of the game and am extremely glad to see a change from the hunched over gorilla orcs of old.
I wonder if/how they'll update the goblins?

Huh? Did I miss something? They look like the same hunched gorilla Orcs as always.

So apparently its going to be.

Megaboss, box of 5 or 10 Orruks, 3 or 5 mounted Orruks, Monster and a shaman.

Good thing is that its more of an extra to the army rather than replacing something.

I see potential on those pics lets wait and see some sharp ones first.

I think they would look better in Goff paintscheme.

But honestly it looks like art from the Eternal Crusade videogame.

 TedNugent wrote:
But this is easily the most exciting thing ruleswise I could have imagined. That megaboss looks like an absolute savage. Sort of funny when you consider how bad they railroaded the Ork codex and that crummy attempt at a decurion in W!G.

Edit; I would just play Black orcs with that statline if anybody would let me. They look like they're gonna be what black orcs should have been.

I can't read through the low res, what does it say?

 Da Boss wrote:
Looks pretty much like a Meganob to me.

Whatever though. Man. I was hoping there'd be a couple of cool minis coming my way from this, but I'm doubtful if any of the orcs in that style are going to interest me.

Sad. GW Orcs were some of my favourite minis to paint and mess around with.

Have you SEEN a meganob? Aesthetically, they look nothing like these new orcs, other than the fact that an orc is wearing the armor.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-NBzj0HheIH4/U6kviocwnHI/AAAAAAAAA9Q/QfEeySQOsMs/s1600/Meganobz.jpg

Meganobs are blocky, dripping in gears and techno/spikey bits, and have attached scifi weapons. These orcs are wearing minimalist rounded plate mail on their chest, shoulders, wrists, and lower legs, without attached weapons or anything of the like.

Umm This photo is so blurry its really hard to tell the full form of his armour but im really sick of this AOS models are all 40k scifi rip off nonsense...
Plate Armour is not scifi
Paint is not scifi
In fact its actually the other way, 40k is more fantasy than scifi, 40k space marines are based on knights, the imperium is Gothic/medieval inspired, the guys all fight with fething swords in a gun/tank fight. There are space elves and orc(k)'s and everyone can pull magic out there butts,
have we all forgot that WFB inspired 40k so the loop around is hardly a surprise...
The extreme design and lurid yellow is unusual an imo a bit unsettling at this point with the blurry pic and its certainly not a historically inspired design but its also no scifi model. Less of the sensationalism.