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 SickSix wrote:
Sadly it looks like there is zero posing variation for the maw krusha.

But the Orruks look nice. Is everything getting bigger in AoS?

dwarves and bloodbound didn't so it doesn't look like it.

Love those new pics!

I've been watching too much Monty python, though. That last pic immediately brought up the phrases "look at all the bones!" and "I soiled my armor!".

Huh, Snord's Green Marines have change a bit. They have a 40k feeling with the coloured plate armour (see: Space Marines and Orks) but I think they could look more WHFB-ish if painted in metallic armour and their posture seems to be a bit more upright. Overall I like them as some sort of black orcs but these boars/mounts just don't work for me. The goblin shaman is fun though.

I agree - the best looking armor so far is this black one imo, and it would be very interesting to see metallic:

Rusty/Tarnished metals would work really well IMO. Get's you some nice compliments to the green skin without going Full Christmas.

If I wasn't sitting on hundreds of dollars of Bloodbound I'll probably never use I'd pick these up (and never use them).

 SickSix wrote:
Is everything getting bigger in AoS?

The new Slaughterpriest stands a good head taller than a Stormcast Eternal and is on the same size base as one. A regular Bloodbound warrior reaches the guy's waist.

Take that as you may.

Cool model too.

The yellow and black paint scheme works really well in the illustrations, I think that why they stayed with it =]

Some of the fluff excerpts for the Ironjaw brutes are pretty good regarding how they organize. Proppa and humourous like an Orc:

"Things get more ‘precise’ when it comes to organising multiple mobs. These are gathered into fives, one for each finger a Megaboss can count on. These mob gatherings are known as fists, and just like the bunched fingers of an orruk, they are great for smashing stuff. In fact, this is often how a Megaboss will form a fist, showing a mob boss an open hand before closing the fingers and thumping them, much to the amusement of all involved. It is a brutally effective method of organisation and one that has worked for the Ironjawz for as long as any of them can remember. Not all Megabosses are created equal, however, and some have trouble getting even to five, especially if they have lost fingers or, worse, whole hands. Others are rare and talented generals, at least by orruk standards, and have discovered that if they hold both their hands next to each other, they can get to ten. Rumours tell of mysterious barefoot orruks that can count even higher, but most Ironjawz don’t believe such fantastical tales."

My immediate thought was why is someone posting 40k orks in the AoS thread. And that, in a nutshell, is what's wrong with them.

(The shaman is a great model though.)

That red paint scheme is a VAST improvement over the yellow, and makes the models look that much better. If I were an Orc player, I'd be pretty pumped.

Red armor is a huge improvement. And that tongue in cheek description from GW is a reminder of their old personality resurfacing. So kudos to that!

 Grimskul wrote:
Some of the fluff excerpts for the Ironjaw brutes are pretty good regarding how they organize. Proppa and humourous like an Orc:

"Things get more ‘precise’ when it comes to organising multiple mobs. These are gathered into fives, one for each finger a Megaboss can count on. These mob gatherings are known as fists, and just like the bunched fingers of an orruk, they are great for smashing stuff. In fact, this is often how a Megaboss will form a fist, showing a mob boss an open hand before closing the fingers and thumping them, much to the amusement of all involved. It is a brutally effective method of organisation and one that has worked for the Ironjawz for as long as any of them can remember. Not all Megabosses are created equal, however, and some have trouble getting even to five, especially if they have lost fingers or, worse, whole hands. Others are rare and talented generals, at least by orruk standards, and have discovered that if they hold both their hands next to each other, they can get to ten. Rumours tell of mysterious barefoot orruks that can count even higher, but most Ironjawz don’t believe such fantastical tales."

Nearly there but I'm still not getting an entirely ork vibe from these.
Needs moar Phil Kelly.

Also, for the uninitiated into AoS....can anyone explain what exactly these brute things are and where they came from?

Never ceases to amaze me how frequently GW manages to pick up worst colour scheme of the lot for initial showcases. Their taste seems to be wildly different to others! Red one from get-go would have likely resulted more of positive reaction from the get-go.

Like the big beastie bit more seeing them from up. Still bit weird but helped a bit there. Would be nightmare to paint though. Needs good paintjob to look good. My paintjob would end up looking bad like the red one.

The Orks themselves look pretty good, but I'm amazed by the positive reception to the Wyvern. I'm ok with the pose, head etc, but the detail on the 'scales' (skin?) is just appalling.

It looks like some beginner modeller just carved up a lump of greenstuff with a blunt knife.

 Grimskul wrote:
Some of the fluff excerpts for the Ironjaw brutes are pretty good regarding how they organize. Proppa and humourous like an Orc:

"Things get more ‘precise’ when it comes to organising multiple mobs. These are gathered into fives, one for each finger a Megaboss can count on. These mob gatherings are known as fists, and just like the bunched fingers of an orruk, they are great for smashing stuff. In fact, this is often how a Megaboss will form a fist, showing a mob boss an open hand before closing the fingers and thumping them, much to the amusement of all involved. It is a brutally effective method of organisation and one that has worked for the Ironjawz for as long as any of them can remember. Not all Megabosses are created equal, however, and some have trouble getting even to five, especially if they have lost fingers or, worse, whole hands. Others are rare and talented generals, at least by orruk standards, and have discovered that if they hold both their hands next to each other, they can get to ten. Rumours tell of mysterious barefoot orruks that can count even higher, but most Ironjawz don’t believe such fantastical tales."

That's awesome haha, I really want to start an army to be honest..


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I have to say though... I love the Maw Crusha but where the hell is the alternative head with open mouth!!

Maw Crusha is a great mini, getting one for sure.
Rest of the force is sadly boring though. I was hoping it was just the meh-marines but it's starting to look like GWs aim with AoS is to keep things very basic in regards to aesthetics.
How can an "Orc" army be so lacking in character?

I'd like to see the big thing from behind, I still don't get what's going on with those wings.

 SickSix wrote:
Sadly it looks like there is zero posing variation for the maw krusha.

But the Orruks look nice. Is everything getting bigger in AoS?

To an extent, I think yes. Bigger Orruks fit right in to the imagery for example, but bigger Aelves would just make no sense.

I think that model design will change by virtue of no longer having to tesselate/rank up in a fixed volume any more, so I'm expecting new releases to look bigger, even if they're actually the same height.

 SickSix wrote:
Sadly it looks like there is zero posing variation for the maw krusha.

Moreover there's no variation of poses in the artwork.

Have we really reached the point where GW will only write and draw things that exactly match their miniatures?

Why do they have such nicely finished metal work on the armour, but the weapons look like they're made from rocks?

Whats the ridden creature? A new one?

 Kavish wrote:
Why do they have such nicely finished metal work on the armour, but the weapons look like they're made from rocks?

The armour just looks beaten into shape. Nothing particularly nicely finished.


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 Fenrir Kitsune wrote:
Whats the ridden creature? A new one?

Yeah, its called a Maw Crusha.

 Gordy2000 wrote:
The Orks themselves look pretty good, but I'm amazed by the positive reception to the Wyvern. I'm ok with the pose, head etc, but the detail on the 'scales' (skin?) is just appalling.

It looks like some beginner modeller just carved up a lump of greenstuff with a blunt knife.

I think the majority opinion is the exact opposite of yours.

Everyone here but you agrees that the Maw Krusha is gorgeous and a great mini. I think its scales look wonderful, and I took about ten semesters of art classes in high school/college.

By contrast, the orcs look like they were carved out of a block of moldy cheese. Those faces

Trigger Warning: Positive Post about AoS!

Seeing the changed colour scheme, I don't utterly hate the Orcs. I'd use them as Ard Boyz for 40K before I'd use them for Fantasy. Likewise the Warboss is for sure a Meganob, and when you look at the power klaw one of them has I think any pretence that these are not 40K inspired is really silly. It's quite obvious. But not bad minis, for that.

I really very much like the Maw Crusha and would like to get one to use as a Winged Slasher for KoW. It's got a great feel to it as a big dumb brutish thing, and looks almost amphibious, which I really like a lot. I will wait to see the price though - I've baulked from paying 50 euro for a big monster in the past so this will have to be reasonable to get bought and I expect it won't be. Maybe if it comes in a discounted bundle.

 Da Boss wrote:
Trigger Warning: Positive Post about AoS!

Seeing the changed colour scheme, I don't utterly hate the Orcs. I'd use them as Ard Boyz for 40K before I'd use them for Fantasy. Likewise the Warboss is for sure a Meganob, and when you look at the power klaw one of them has I think any pretence that these are not 40K inspired is really silly. It's quite obvious. But not bad minis, for that.

I really very much like the Maw Crusha and would like to get one to use as a Winged Slasher for KoW. It's got a great feel to it as a big dumb brutish thing, and looks almost amphibious, which I really like a lot. I will wait to see the price though - I've baulked from paying 50 euro for a big monster in the past so this will have to be reasonable to get bought and I expect it won't be. Maybe if it comes in a discounted bundle.

It's €90.

Oh well.

90 euro is too rich for my blood. I can get a whole board game for less than that with lots of big minis.

Will keep my eyes peeled for any discounted bundles since I do quite like the model.

RoperPG wrote:

 SickSix wrote:
Sadly it looks like there is zero posing variation for the maw krusha.

But the Orruks look nice. Is everything getting bigger in AoS?

To an extent, I think yes. Bigger Orruks fit right in to the imagery for example, but bigger Aelves would just make no sense.

I think that model design will change by virtue of no longer having to tesselate/rank up in a fixed volume any more, so I'm expecting new releases to look bigger, even if they're actually the same height.

I'm expecting the new aelves to be made to look bigger without being scaled too differently like the Fyreslayers with their headwear. I also expect them to be on 32mms. I'm usually not an elf guy but getting pretty interested in their aesthetic considering the direction other races have gone in the new world. For me personally, getting away from Legolas is a positive.

 Da Boss wrote:
Trigger Warning: Positive Post about AoS!

Seeing the changed colour scheme, I don't utterly hate the Orcs. I'd use them as Ard Boyz for 40K before I'd use them for Fantasy. Likewise the Warboss is for sure a Meganob, and when you look at the power klaw one of them has I think any pretence that these are not 40K inspired is really silly. It's quite obvious. But not bad minis, for that.

I really very much like the Maw Crusha and would like to get one to use as a Winged Slasher for KoW. It's got a great feel to it as a big dumb brutish thing, and looks almost amphibious, which I really like a lot. I will wait to see the price though - I've baulked from paying 50 euro for a big monster in the past so this will have to be reasonable to get bought and I expect it won't be. Maybe if it comes in a discounted bundle.

Haha, it's odd yet also helpful you inserted a positive post trigger
I'm considering also for KoW dioramas in units.

coldgaming wrote:

RoperPG wrote:

 SickSix wrote:
Sadly it looks like there is zero posing variation for the maw krusha.

But the Orruks look nice. Is everything getting bigger in AoS?

To an extent, I think yes. Bigger Orruks fit right in to the imagery for example, but bigger Aelves would just make no sense.

I think that model design will change by virtue of no longer having to tesselate/rank up in a fixed volume any more, so I'm expecting new releases to look bigger, even if they're actually the same height.

I'm expecting the new aelves to be made to look bigger without being scaled too differently like the Fyreslayers with their headwear. I also expect them to be on 32mms. I'm usually not an elf guy but getting pretty interested in their aesthetic considering the direction other races have gone in the new world. For me personally, getting away from Legolas is a positive.

I dunno.

I'm pretty certain that the first Aelves we'll see will be the Shadowkin, and from what little we have on them(they're led by Malerion, they live in the Realm of Shadow, and they have a group of kings called the Shroudling Lords. They also favor hit and run strikes and have been harassing the hell out of the Slaaneshi forces invading their Realm) it sounds like there won't be many helms but rather lots of cloaks with hoods and dynamic posing.

I could see Aelves being made taller in general(as they were supposed to be taller than humans but much more lithe in build rather than bulky in terms of their musculature) and a bit more slender.

Seeing that one in black armor really makes me like these models more. I just wish I had a use for them for my 40k Orks; the models overall look really lovely.