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Nothing new in that line for....a while. Maybe 8 years?
Hope they don't tie themselves down to existing sculpts honestly as good as those are....and assuming this game is what we hope it is.

Probably a coincidence. ;-)

I would hope that they brought out new sculpts in the same scale as Zombicide, blood rage, B-Sieged and the others. Going for a new scale would be like switching base sizes from 25mm to 32mm

 cincydooley wrote:
Probably a coincidence. ;-)

This level of teasing requires vicious mod reprisals imo...

I just want to know if there is gameplay meat on the proverbial bone... because I don't want to get my heart-broken again, like when we thought the AOS game might be a Warhammer Quest revamp.

NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:
I just want to know if there is gameplay meat on the proverbial bone... because I don't want to get my heart-broken again, like when we thought the AOS game might be a Warhammer Quest revamp.

I'll drop some tidbits when I'm allowed. :-)

NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:
I just want to know if there is gameplay meat on the proverbial bone... because I don't want to get my heart-broken again, like when we thought the AOS game might be a Warhammer Quest revamp.

Were details on the AOS game spilled at some point and I wasn't made aware of it?

'Cause I'm still pining on the hope that it's a Quest re-skin.

(Dungeon crawlers and roguelikes are my absolute favorite genre of games, so I pay extra close attention to them- I'm shocked if something got past me.)

Is this suppose to be a board game, rpg, card game or a miniatures game?

Oh man this is a kickstarter I might jump on. Black Plague I am really bitter about missing, but I'll keep an eye on this.

 Piston Honda wrote:
Is this suppose to be a board game, rpg, card game or a miniatures game?

We don't know yet.

 cincydooley wrote:

- Would people like to see crossover dashboards for R&B pirates for Black Plague? Sounds like something that could happen....

I'd like to see them - if they provide dashboards for all of the named characters including stretch goal ones...

 Azazelx wrote:

 cincydooley wrote:

- Would people like to see crossover dashboards for R&B pirates for Black Plague? Sounds like something that could happen....

I'd like to see them - if they provide dashboards for all of the named characters including stretch goal ones...

It's unlikely this would be a stretch goal for a KS but more likely to be done as a part of the developing CMON Organized Play program.

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:

NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:
I just want to know if there is gameplay meat on the proverbial bone... because I don't want to get my heart-broken again, like when we thought the AOS game might be a Warhammer Quest revamp.

Were details on the AOS game spilled at some point and I wasn't made aware of it?

'Cause I'm still pining on the hope that it's a Quest re-skin.

(Dungeon crawlers and roguelikes are my absolute favorite genre of games, so I pay extra close attention to them- I'm shocked if something got past me.)

Didn't Sad Panda essentially say that like Execution Force and Calth, the current GW board-game focus is on one-offs that won't be expanded, or see rules continuity across multiple projects?

 -Loki- wrote:
Oh man this is a kickstarter I might jump on. Black Plague I am really bitter about missing, but I'll keep an eye on this.

I don't miss KS. I just have a hundred fewer mini's to paint.

 cincydooley wrote:

It's unlikely this would be a stretch goal for a KS but more likely to be done as a part of the developing CMON Organized Play program.

What's that? Hopefully not more horrible "Game Night" exclusives for retailers (that get hawked on eBay) that leave those of us who don't play boardgames in stores out in the cold...

I found the game night kits on the Walmart.com website , sure $30-40, but you get 6 of them to sell on eBay later to make your money back.

 Azazelx wrote:

 cincydooley wrote:

It's unlikely this would be a stretch goal for a KS but more likely to be done as a part of the developing CMON Organized Play program.

What's that? Hopefully not more horrible "Game Night" exclusives for retailers (that get hawked on eBay) that leave those of us who don't play boardgames in stores out in the cold...

I mean, I live in London, and it's still a massive faff to visit my "local" games retailer that has a table/space to play. Not to mention that I actually want to play boardgames with friends in a living room, not a collection of strangers. Clearly the additional audience that this niche represents is apparently worth courting by some publishers, but I just don't understand how it financially makes sense.

Really a fan of the Massive Darkness miniatures line, picked up a few on steep discount when Maelstrom was going out of business. Biggest issue was their sheer price (over £10/$15 for a single human-sized metal model) so if that offers a cheap way of gaining access to them while retaining detail, would be nice.

I am starting to find the Guillotine Games art style a bit...wearing. It's good to have a house style, and it did help Zombicide stand out, but I'm not excited to play a fantasy game that looks like (or is illustrated like) this. It is certainly colourful and approachable though, which is probably important for marketing.

I, on the other hand, enjoy the art style of GG. I have become a much more seasons kickstarter user after being burned a number of times, so the number of campaigns and the amounts i've contributed have almost dried up. But this will definitely grab me. I also wonder whether the art direction will be a little less gory... since the game may not necessarily revolve around rotting corpses. My 8 yr old son is interested to play and paint. Not that i wouldnt let him anyways.

This is pure speculation based off that single image, but it would certainly seem to be less gory, and much more akin to World of Warcraft in having bright colours and chunky shapes. I feel that it would have broader appeal than the gorier Black Plague artwork, which is a more specific (although very profitable!) niche.

On the other hand, the single image we've seen so far looks quite dissimilar to the existing Massive Darkness miniatures line:













Then again, Rum & Bones ended up having quite a distinct disjunct between old & new sculpts, so may be a similar concept here.

First and last pics are cool, not a fan of the rest.

Hopefully it isn't based off of this mini line...

I don't think it is - just a coincidence most likely.

I just hope it's a co-op dungeon crawler!

You can dismiss the previous miniatures line as coincidental naming.

Retailer incentive product will probably continue to exist, because there needs to be a bridge product to keep retailers interested in stocking the game, as, with a business model utilizing KS, the retailer is initially cut out. This may change. It may not. But I can tell you that the retailer exclusive model for Black Plague, Homer, will eventually hit retail.

Other organized play content will be separate.

Will there be a legal thing due to using the same name as someone else? Purely wandering is all.

I think that other line is pretty much discontinued / no new sculpts being made, right? Since CMON sells that on their site, it'd be crazy for there to be a problem with the name they weren't aware of. There's likely nothing to see there, imo.

Now, new Massive Darkness teasers are something I'm very interested in seeing! Give us something to discuss

 RiTides wrote:

Now, new Massive Darkness teasers are something I'm very interested in seeing! Give us something to discuss

Like what kind of gameplay we should be looking at- co-op? competitive?

I'm sure that will be teased as soon as it can be.

I glanced through the minis Alpharius linked. It fits the aesthetic IMO CMON is geared towards for most of their fantasy games. I'd be a bit surprised if they weren't somehow using those figures in this Kickstarter.

I got my Zombicide BP English book today so I am less upset with CMON but the contents of this KS and general direction are going to have to be the main factors in determining if I am on board. I think I might have room for another big box game and I like that art style but I'm planning on picking up some games that are already in print so this will have competition for my dwindling game cabinet space.

EDIT: D'oh.. I submitted this and realized I missed some posts.. have to read more and see what details I didn't see before.

I think cincydooley (who has some connections to CMON) said the old minis line is not related / connected to this (which I'm glad about, they don't appeal to me, personally).

 RiTides wrote:
I think cincydooley (who has some connections to CMON) said the old minis line is not related / connected to this (which I'm glad about, they don't appeal to me, personally).

I suppose c-dooley could be pulling a massive swerve here, but yeah, he's said the name is just a coincidence...

From CMoN, propably be able to play project sunrise at Dicetower Con in june

https://youtu.be/SwCGbG3tT6E?t=12337

Or maybe the wordplay is just too much of a teaser.