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Welp. Looks like the rumor about rosters being chained to what's sold in the box turned out to be true. Don't worry Dark Elf players, your Runners now come with Punt! Aren't you lucky?

Not shocked but it's going to be carnage on the BB socials for a while. Orcs and Humans lose out a lot, the Skaven change might actually be ok. Dwarfs, once again continue to be basically untouched which is practically a buff at this point.

Das_Ubermike wrote:
Welp. Looks like the rumor about rosters being chained to what's sold in the box turned out to be true. Don't worry Dark Elf players, your Runners now come with Punt! Aren't you lucky?

Where are you getting this from?

 SgtEeveell wrote:

Das_Ubermike wrote:
Welp. Looks like the rumor about rosters being chained to what's sold in the box turned out to be true. Don't worry Dark Elf players, your Runners now come with Punt! Aren't you lucky?

Where are you getting this from?

Warhammer Community has an article up.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/euo6nxbn/tokens-skills-and-roster-changes-whats-new-in-blood-bowl/

The most important thing to point out is that this new edition of Blood Bowl is still the game we all know and love.

Now where did I hear that before ?

Hard to say how it will affect everything without seeing the whole of it.

I like the rules clarifications and such, but am a little nervous about the team rejiggering. We'll have to wait and see, I guess.

Huh. There’s no way they’re going to make linemen 0-4 or anything like that so what about teams like Imperial nobles that only have four in the box?

Anyway, core mechanics more or less unchanged, good. Passing cleared up, good. Consolidating sneaky skills as a separate category, interesting. Arm Bar generating SPP, legendary.

Articles!
Bretonnians: Their thing is Dauntless, apparently. Knightly questors squaring up to the mightiest monsters. Also, a new rule appears:


Tomb Kings: Are up to their ancient tricks, apparently. Slow, bashy, dead. They trained up some decent throwers but forgot the other half of the equation. Also their wrappings are coming loose:


Not sure about the ability to pick up a final save against tripping. Depends on if it replaces Sure Feet, I guess. And if it can be re-rolled.
Also, they seem to be hinting that Mummies have the Big Guy trait which means no Secure the Ball action for them. Which might come as a relief to some.

Coming next week as was expected...
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/prxigetv/sunday-preview-the-third-season-of-blood-bowl-is-underway/

We have the box, the 2 teams with the usual extra stuff (pitches, cards, dice, one issue of Spike! for each), separate rulebook, tokens.

Hmm. While I don’t need yet another throw in template or range ruler, the pricing of the box vs. two teams and a rulebook is going to be a big deciding factor in what I order.
Anyone know when we’re likely to see prices?

Definitely wasn’t expecting everything at once like this though.

 Mr_Rose wrote:
Hmm. While I don’t need yet another throw in template or range ruler, the pricing of the box vs. two teams and a rulebook is going to be a big deciding factor in what I order.
Anyone know when we’re likely to see prices?

Definitely wasn’t expecting everything at once like this though.

The specialist games do generally have a better release scheme (if less predictable schedule) than the main games.

Had it been announced that there wouldn't be any Special Play cards?

 Mr_Rose wrote:
Hmm. While I don’t need yet another throw in template or range ruler, the pricing of the box vs. two teams and a rulebook is going to be a big deciding factor in what I order.
Anyone know when we’re likely to see prices?

Price leaks say the main boxed set should be $145 USD.

Isn't £105 equivalent to $175? The current season is £105, so seems a bit too good to be true if it's less than that

 Mr_Rose wrote:

Not sure about the ability to pick up a final save against tripping. Depends on if it replaces Sure Feet, I guess. And if it can be re-rolled.

Its an invulnerable save against going down. So blocks, dodges, GFIs, kick off events, etc.

If its a trait it will be simply an annoyance on those two players. If its a skill, given you can re-roll it, I would spam it everywhere.

The rumours I saw were
Orc
Lose animosity
Biguns gain mighty blow, thick skull, taunt
Blitzer gain break tackle
Thrower goes up to mv6
Lineman gain access to strength skills strength

Orc special rule cas are 3spps, td 2spp. Presumably team special rules are now all the rage.

Humans
Blitzers gain tackle
Catchers st3 pass on 4+

Dwarves
Lose ag access
Gain bribery and corruption 50k bribes 0-6
Lineman lose tackle, gain defensive lose access to strength skills

Ah man. Didn’t previously notice the Khemrian Cat holding the ball!

More 3rd season team news:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/64evk1wu/find-out-what-team-changes-the-warhammer-studio-are-looking-forward-to-in-blood-bowl/

Looks like Gutter Runners get Stab and Skaven Blitzers get Strip Ball.
And some other team stuff I don't care about.

 SgtEeveell wrote:
More 3rd season team news:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/64evk1wu/find-out-what-team-changes-the-warhammer-studio-are-looking-forward-to-in-blood-bowl/

Looks like Gutter Runners get Stab and Skaven Blitzers get Strip Ball.
And some other team stuff I don't care about.

Dark Elf runners gain punt. Nice, I guess, but they'd better not lose Dump Off!

So the Dwarf roster has been leaked.

Wonder if 'brawling brutes' is a team rule that changes SPP allocation to 3spps for cas and 2 for tds?

But regardless on a typical starting roster, dropping 2 points of ag (so blitzers can't sack enemy ball carriers and try and get the ball), going up 60k on a typical starting roster (RR up 10, Blitzers up 20k, runners down 5k), losing A on secondary, losing s on primary for limemen, losing 4 tackle skills - all rather rough.

In return you get 2 sprint skills (yay?), diving tackle with tackle on the blitzers (because those are the guys you want on the ground near the guy with the ball?), defensive on linemen (useless in starting set up and in a league your problem is enemy teams with str higher than 3, not players with guard), and the trollslayers hate trolls, so probably some sort of boost vs them. Linemen can take fouling skills on primary, but that isn't a great use of 70k players, even if your bribes are now 50k.

I suppose for league play you can field a death roller for two drives now for 250k assuming mercenaries haven't been scrapped. After I assume you have run out of star players places.

That is grim.

With AG4+ those tackle skills can be marked and rendered impotent. I do wonder how the design team thinks they should be played. They can't bash that well against bash teams, they are outpaced by virtually everyone, they can't pin faster teams, and a fouling game with expensive players is last ditch not a strategy. They aren't a hybrid team like the (old) humans that can try and play the other teams weaknesses.

But hey, black orcs have to be able to beat some other teams

I hope NAF/FUMBBL introduces some kind of 'legends' roster system if the rest of the changes are like this to old 'core' rosters.

The strength level of everything is obviously going to be completely different now, so it's hard to say what their relative level is - but hopefully it makes a pretty dull team more fun to play and play against

A good shake up of the rosters is very interesting.

Suggestions so far is to spam shadowing (now flat 4+) to try and pin faster teams. Not much suggested against bash teams other than perhaps try and not be in a league with them?

Elven Union are:
+5k for Linemen, gain fumblerooski, 3+ pass
Add HMP for thrower
Add diving catch for catcher, only 2 available

Think everything else remains the same

Vorian wrote:
Elven Union are:
+5k for Linemen, gain fumblerooski, 3+ pass
Add HMP for thrower
Add diving catch for catcher, only 2 available

Think everything else remains the same

I guess this is the “Screw it, Megatrons down there somewhere” the team.

The_Real_Chris wrote:

 Mr_Rose wrote:

Not sure about the ability to pick up a final save against tripping. Depends on if it replaces Sure Feet, I guess. And if it can be re-rolled.

Its an invulnerable save against going down. So blocks, dodges, GFIs, kick off events, etc.

If its a trait it will be simply an annoyance on those two players. If its a skill, given you can re-roll it, I would spam it everywhere.

The rumours I saw were
Orc
Lose animosity
Biguns gain mighty blow, thick skull, taunt
Blitzer gain break tackle
Thrower goes up to mv6
Lineman gain access to strength skills strength

Orc special rule cas are 3spps, td 2spp. Presumably team special rules are now all the rage.

Humans
Blitzers gain tackle
Catchers st3 pass on 4+

Dwarves
Lose ag access
Gain bribery and corruption 50k bribes 0-6
Lineman lose tackle, gain defensive lose access to strength skills

These and:

Orc throwers +10k
Blitzers & biguns +5k

Human catcher+10k
Thrower -5k

Lots more teams up as well as team captain rule (one player gets pro for free, re-rolls/(command points) refunded on a 6.

I think from the stuff we are seeing it is very much a ‘warhammer’ approach to rules. So lots of special/unique rules, exemptions, invulnerable saves, extra stuff to remember, no unified design concept, loading on buffs to balance things, etc.

Which should be popular for GWs mainstream customers as that’s what their other games are like. Trick will be retaining old customers and not having them drift away, though would GW care?

All of the rosters have leaked, and they really do look great for the most part.

Unboxing video from someone who seems to have gotten theirs early!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jM-9qBBvqvU

 schoon wrote:
Unboxing video from someone who seems to have gotten theirs early!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jM-9qBBvqvU

UK stores at least, will start getting their stock this week.

 schoon wrote:
Unboxing video from someone who seems to have gotten theirs early!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jM-9qBBvqvU

It was a shame that I didn't see the Sevens mode in the table of contents when he flashed those pages real briefly.

I was hoping with how much longer this season's rulebook is versus the last one they would have included it.

 NH Gunsmith wrote:

 schoon wrote:
Unboxing video from someone who seems to have gotten theirs early!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jM-9qBBvqvU

It was a shame that I didn't see the Sevens mode in the table of contents when he flashed those pages real briefly.

I was hoping with how much longer this season's rulebook is versus the last one they would have included it.

Need to save something for the obligatory supplement.