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Well, they'd like to do a lot of exciting stuff!
The more of it actually gets to the finishing line, the better...
I hope LotR will get revived- 0 people I know are playing it, official support always helps.

LotR was my first war game, and I haven't played it since I was 12 or 13 (no opponents) , but about a decade later I might actually get Keen on it again! "start collecting" would help spread the popularity about!

I'm more interested in small thematic forces though, to have narrative skirmishes, so everything said about sourcebooks leaves me very hopeful

Oropher, Thanduil's father, was never eaten by dragons. He was slain on the field at the Battle of Dagorlad. The Hobbit films made zero references to the Silmarillion or the Book of Lost Tales due to licensing.

Looking forward to the Dol Guldor Ringwraith models. I loved their designs in the film.

 ImAGeek wrote:
Looking forward to the Dol Guldor Ringwraith models. I loved their designs in the film.

I am looking forward to that as well, but not the price.

LotR SBG was the only system I had any interest from GW.

I have hundreds of minis. This is good news.

https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-NZ/The-Forge-World-Bulletin/2016/10/12/More-from-the-Iron-Hills?utm_source=Facebook&utm_content=ironhills&_requestid=968169







... so .. yeah.

Models are coming...

.. roll on the plastic Rivertown buildings please !

So are we going to get dwarves mounted on goats? That might just tip me over into collecting these guys.

Chikout wrote:
So are we going to get dwarves mounted on goats? That might just tip me over into collecting these guys.

Probably in the nearish future. We're getting Dain and these guys first and then the supplement next month. The supplement will most likely list everything to come for the dwarves.

[*edit] Double post.

Getting a slight Roman centurion vibe from these fellas.

Davor wrote:
[*edit] Double post.

I'll stick my neck out and say they'll be available from GW's website and stores. The biggest indicator of this is Smaug. No one thought he would get made, let alone be available from GW's web store. And he's a pure Forge World piece.

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:

Davor wrote:
[*edit] Double post.

I'll stick my neck out and say they'll be available from GW's website and stores. The biggest indicator of this is Smaug. No one thought he would get made, let alone be available from GW's web store. And he's a pure Forge World piece.

Thank you, that is good to know. I forgot about that.

Those look outstanding. Though I must admit, all the dwarfs in the lotr line look great, the only outliers might be the Warriors of Erebor and the dwarven rangers.
I hope they keep selling them from GW, doubling the prices with the hobbit releases nearly killed the system, if they'd move it to FW now, it wouldn't help the situation.

https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-WW/The-Forge-World-Bulletin/2016/10/28/What-is-The-Hobbit-An-Unexpected-Journey-Strategy-Battle-Game

dwarf stuff !

40£ for Daín is... stretching it.

 Lithlandis Stormcrow wrote:
40£ for Daín is... stretching it.

Eh, it's Forge World, so it's about expected.
The troops are the interesting one, as they're now in warbands of 12, they're actually cheaper than the current GW blisters by about £8.

https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/resources/PDF/fw_warscrolls/Iron_Hills_Rules.pdf

pdf of the rules

I'd argue that even for FW it's more expensive than usual.
I mean, I'm looking at two HH Praetors for 33£... and then Dain is almost 20% more expensive than they are.

I must admit that those prices are completely bonkers. And by doing that I think GW/FW has laid the groundwork for the new LoTR/Hobbit focus to fail completely.

50£ for a ballista. You can get like four from other miniature makers. It just doesn't make sense!

Compared to FW's HH Character Series Dain's price isn't so insane. The non-primarchs run from 32 to 45 pounds, with the 45 pound ones having exceedingly large display bases (compared to the 32 pound ones, which have less-large display bases).

Which makes sense since Dain is listed as a part of The Hobbit Character Series. He lacks an ott display base but comes with 2 versions of himself, so probably uses a similar amount of resin.

 Lithlandis Stormcrow wrote:
I'd argue that even for FW it's more expensive than usual.
I mean, I'm looking at two HH Praetors for 33£... and then Dain is almost 20% more expensive than they are.

Well, like said above he's a named character you'll only ever need one of. So it's the usual thing to charge more for him. Besides, who's going to turn up the chance to own mini Billy Connolly?

Wow. Defense 8 dwarfs (after shield wall). Tough nut to crack there.

And those Ballistae are seriously good. Scattering only 3" is pretty phenomenal, and then knocking down everything within 2" and dishing out a strength 4 hit...this thing is going to be really good against horde armies...

$160 for a 400-500 point army depending on upgrades. More than I'm used to paying for a LoTR army, but still not terrible I guess.

 Matt.Kingsley wrote:
Compared to FW's HH Character Series Dain's price isn't so insane.

No, they're just both insane. So much for my interest in the revival. I was turned off by the prices post-Hobbit change-over, and now its even worse. I'll just stick with what I have and historicals, I guess.

The extreme prices are a huge barrier. After all the improvements and reforms they've been making lately, its a shame they still haven't learned that lesson.

That said, do the Army Bundles offer a decent discount? GW has been pretty good with discounted bundles and army boxes lately, but I don't know if Forgeworld has followed their example.

Well, that's horrible pricing. I'm out :( did they want to make FW very expensive compared to Gw again?
Not that I was 100% in, but I really liked those models..especially Dain, I would've gotten him, if he was 20 pounds.. 24 max :(

Bundles are priced exactly like the one-click bundles of yor I'm afraid.


Prices to appear to actually be cheaper for the foot soldiers than their hobbit counterparts (looking at the finecast examples). I'm not sure if people were actually expecting them to be the same (or cheaper) than the plastic box warriors as that would have been an unrealistic expectation.

I can see both sides of the argument with Dain. On the one hand, £40 for a dwarf model foot and mounted is a hefty price, on the other it is labeled as a character series model meaning you really can't even compare it to say a legion praetor or apothecary. It's closest analog would be a primarch or other HH special character, and the attention to detail in those guys is insane.

The actual infantry themselves don't seem too bad. £3.33 each

 godswildcard wrote:
Bundles are priced exactly like the one-click bundles of yor I'm afraid.


Prices to appear to actually be cheaper for the foot soldiers than their hobbit counterparts (looking at the finecast examples). I'm not sure if people were actually expecting them to be the same (or cheaper) than the plastic box warriors as that would have been an unrealistic expectation.

I can see both sides of the argument with Dain. On the one hand, £40 for a dwarf model foot and mounted is a hefty price, on the other it is labeled as a character series model meaning you really can't even compare it to say a legion praetor or apothecary. It's closest analog would be a primarch or other HH special character, and the attention to detail in those guys is insane.

Defiantly, but primarchs have far more space for details, than Dain. Yes, they cost more as well, but if someone puts 2 close by, i bet it will cause some brow raising. 2:3 in price, but is it 2:3 in quality and size?

Way overpriced.
Dain especially, considering that comparable miniatures offered by GW only go for £27, and that is already quite expensive.
For the same price as Dain I can get 6 of the dwarves of Thorins company. Or Elrond (foot and mounted) and Legolas. Or 3 Azogs (including 1 mounted). And that is even before the ridiculous shipping fees that FW charges.
I really feel that all of the kits should have been 10 pounds less expensive. Then they would have been great. Now they are just meh.
I really like these miniatures, but at the current price I just can't afford it to get them. I am not going to pay over €200,- for 24 warriors, a ballista and Dain. No matter how cool they are.

 Draccan wrote:

I must admit that those prices are completely bonkers. And by doing that I think GW/FW has laid the groundwork for the new LoTR/Hobbit focus to fail completely.

50£ for a ballista. You can get like four from other miniature makers. It just doesn't make sense!

A ballista of that size?