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I have two points to make one in LARP there is a large number of women in it almost even to men why is that different from the rest of geek culture. My hypothesis is LARPing is more so about interacting with others and playing a part.

My other point is as far as the "creep" label is used a big part of it is dose the woman who's the target find the man attractive. A short fat balding man dressed poorly will be labeled a creep for as little as a quick look yet a tall built man dressed in a suit can give a woman the death stare and have her respond with a smile.

 Chongara wrote:

...and? The definition of harassment, being creepy or whatever you want to call it is that it's unwanted attention.

My post there was largely a joke (though there is some truth in it). Since you replied seriously to it, I will be serious as well.

You're missing a key word from your definition of harassment. Continued. Harassment is continued unwanted attention. It is not incumbent on anyone to be able to read anyone else's mind to find out if their initial attention is unwanted. Unwanted is not enough, it has to be continued unwanted attention.

Also, it is not "harassment, being creepy or whatever." Harassment is a real thing with real legal and psychological ramifications. Being creepy is someone's opinion of another person and nothing more.

We have a huge list of rights in public spaces and a huge list of expectations that don't exist in public spaces. We should not take away a person's right to look at another or talk to another just because of a perceived shortfall in their physical appearance (the ones most likely to be targeted/bullied with labels of being creepy).

Oldmike wrote:
My other point is as far as the "creep" label is used a big part of it is dose the woman who's the target find the man attractive. A short fat balding man dressed poorly will be labeled a creep for as little as a quick look yet a tall built man dressed in a suit can give a woman the death stare and have her respond with a smile.

50 shades would be an episode of criminal minds if the guy made minimum wage and lived in a trailer...

50 shades would be a criminal matter if you tried that in real life and the woman complained, regardless of social standing. Mr. Rich Guy can just afford a better lawyer....

I think we're done here.