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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/11 13:28:47
Subject: RevisedChaos Marine Supplements -- 1st rules leaks
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Dark Angels Librarian with Book of Secrets
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Some of these seem pretty cool. Not great, but fun. Anyone think we'll actually see some CSM at the LVO now, or is this just more cool toys for the casual crowd?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/11 14:26:09
Subject: Re: RevisedChaos Marine Supplements -- 1st rules leaks
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Honored Helliarch on Hypex
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After reading the Cabal listing (other sorcerers within 12") does this mean the sorcerers don't need to be placed in the same unit and won't suffer from brotherhood of psyker issues? If they can be placed in different units like the librarius conclave I can see some real benefits here.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/11 14:30:01
Subject: RevisedChaos Marine Supplements -- 1st rules leaks
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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We live in a world where Space Marines have rules and formations for a dozen Chapters, and Chaos Space Marines have no Legion rules (aside from the most vanilla of Legions) and have had two supplement books for the "Who?" of Chaos Warbands.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/11 14:34:39
Subject: RevisedChaos Marine Supplements -- 1st rules leaks
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Power-Hungry Cultist of Tzeentch
Portsmouth, UK
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The Cult of Slaughter could pair okay with Typhus - he grants Zombie Cultists to the entire army, not his detachment, and having a bunch of Cultists with Fearless and FNP that also regain lost models would make an alright tarpit or objective campers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/11 14:55:53
Subject: RevisedChaos Marine Supplements -- 1st rules leaks
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H.B.M.C. wrote:We live in a world where Space Marines have rules and formations for a dozen Chapters, and Chaos Space Marines have no Legion rules (aside from the most vanilla of Legions) and have had two supplement books for the "Who?" of Chaos Warbands.
Not to mention that said "who" is so close to word bearers that I'm not sure how they would do an actual word bearers supplement. The only thing I can think of is more objective defiling like the dameons got?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/11 15:10:43
Subject: RevisedChaos Marine Supplements -- 1st rules leaks
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Stern Iron Priest with Thrall Bodyguard
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crimson_caesar wrote:
Yeah they are. Idk, something fresh would have been cool. Maybe not replace all the artifacts, but a new extra one would've been interesting.
The artifacts is such big part of the CS flavour because of the limited extra rules in the original CS book.
They could probably have taken the artifact buffs and made them in to formation bonuses or warlord traits, just because they are so linked to what typical CS armies are.
But, yeah, I cant say its dissapointing to see one of the good things about chaos actually stay in shape.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/11 18:09:57
Subject: RevisedChaos Marine Supplements -- 1st rules leaks
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Been Around the Block
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Nightlord1987 wrote:I think the designers note for the Red Onslaught means you don't need to take 2 Chosen, 4 Possessed, 2 Terminators, 4 Cultists, raptors, Landraider, helbrute, 2 apostles and 2 CSM minumum...
I think it is saying the same Cultists from, let's say, the Cult of Slaughter can also be the Cultists in Kranons Helguard....
I hope.
Well i honestly don't think this is the case. The note just states that each unit is part of the main formation "The Red Onslaught" and the sub formation it belongs to. The Dark Apostle which belongs to "Cult of Slaughter" is also part of "The Red Onslaught". You still have to play 2050+ points, which is BS.
In the age of formation detachments it should work like this:
The Red Onslaugth Detachment
Mandatory: 1 Kranons Helguard
Optional: 1 - 5 of the following...
Rules:
Enemy units get -1 Ld.
Each turn roll a d6, on 4+ return all units of Possessed to the game, which have been completely destroyed. They no longer count as part of a formation, but can still come back.
The formations are still pretty solid on their own, as most of them are small and can be fiddled into a list quite easily, but still offer nice buffs.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/11 19:12:05
Subject: RevisedChaos Marine Supplements -- 1st rules leaks
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Pyro Pilot of a Triach Stalker
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Still would only bring for friendly games but kranons helguard has potential with stubborn mitigating CSMs naturally horrific leadership issues. Combine with a gorepack and it might be serviceable list.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/11 19:51:44
Subject: RevisedChaos Marine Supplements -- 1st rules leaks
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The thing that gets me about the Cabal formation that everyone is excited about is that there was a telepathy spell that was in the BRB of 6th edition that allowed you to make enemy units shoot eachother. If I remember right, CSM didn't have telepathy access, though. It's really sad that everyone is excited about that spell because we don't have any decent guns on our own  Is there a page somewhere giving more details on the Crimson Slaughter formations? The BOLS doesn't show what the formations actually do.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/11 20:13:37
Subject: Re: RevisedChaos Marine Supplements -- 1st rules leaks
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Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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Edit: well feth. Link didn't work. But the Official Warhammer 40,000 FB page just shared a choose your legion guide.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/11 20:20:05
Subject: Re: RevisedChaos Marine Supplements -- 1st rules leaks
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Haemonculi Flesh Apprentice
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Fishboy wrote:After reading the Cabal listing (other sorcerers within 12") does this mean the sorcerers don't need to be placed in the same unit and won't suffer from brotherhood of psyker issues? If they can be placed in different units like the librarius conclave I can see some real benefits here.
There is no requirement for them to be in a single unit. It's similar to the librarius conclave. Automatically Appended Next Post: Selym wrote:Us propa nerds know that Slaanesh has other facets, and is just hard to represent. But a GW exec probably just looks at our dick references and thinks "waddabout tha children".
We all know GW really wants to sell to younger players. The only thing stopping them from really going that way is that entry prices for a 40k army are greater than a kid's yearly allowance.
And GW will never drop prices.
IDK this seems a bit too cynical, and while I would have agreed 6-8 months ago, Roundtree appears to be moving the slide rule back a lot. I actually think they are doing the opposite and trying to cater to the older vets again in hopes of earning back a lot of lost good faith. I mean, who hear is going to suggest that mechanicus, genestealer cults or betrayal at calth was intended to cater to younger players being drawn in. These are all thing Vets have been crying for, for ages.
Heck, even the power armor 30th is finally giving formations to iron hands, imperial fists and sallies. While I know chaos players still beg for legion specifics, I'll at least concede that they are listening to most of the demands. Heck we are even getting a comprehensive FAQ any week now.
Slaanesh already removed most of the taboo traits from the art and line, aside from some black library books, anyone is welcome to point out mainstream events in the core books and timelines that suggest anything inappropriate about the current state of Slaanesh.
Automatically Appended Next Post: gigasnail wrote:Ref: slaanesh molesterines
Dan Abnett, I think it was Sabbat Martyr in the gaunt's ghost series is a pretty clear example on that one, complete with mutated hentai love-fests of dubious consent.
Thanks! I think Black Library publication doesn't really count for all canon personally since the writers go of the reservation often or take liberties. Hmmm, that came off wrong, hard to explain, but I don't think a few descriptions in old independent publications are really a problem. I think as long as the core fluff and events are not over the top then it's fine. I mean other horrid things happen in the main line fluff, ie Grey Knights anointing their armor by bathing in battle sisters virgin blood for example. Not sure how people find things like that OK while always hating on the random boob or cod piece on Slaanesh.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/11 20:36:50
Subject: Re: RevisedChaos Marine Supplements -- 1st rules leaks
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
Cozy cockpit of an Archer ARC-5S
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From Facebook, apologies if posted before:
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/11 20:42:11
Subject: Re: RevisedChaos Marine Supplements -- 1st rules leaks
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Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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I tried and failed.
They also made comments on the FB well saying that they haven't forgotten the Traitor Legions. I doubt it materializes into anything good though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/11 21:00:00
Subject: Re: RevisedChaos Marine Supplements -- 1st rules leaks
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Dark Angels Librarian with Book of Secrets
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Man, that's actually pretty cool
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/11 21:06:24
Subject: RevisedChaos Marine Supplements -- 1st rules leaks
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Oozing Plague Marine Terminator
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"Although units can normally only belong to one detachment, units from Formations that are part of the Red Onslaught are an acception. They are part of both formations, and have all associated special rules."
It does say UNITS from the formation are part of both formations.
If it was just a Formation of Formations, I dont think any clarification would be necessary.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/11 21:27:39
Subject: RevisedChaos Marine Supplements -- 1st rules leaks
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Veteran Inquisitor with Xenos Alliances
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Its a shame it doesn't really mean much for the game, right now. For all its worth it might as well say "what color do you like you chaos?"
Horus Heresy and GW's inevitable attempt to further cash-in on FW's success is probably the best hope for Chaos Marines. HH has given GW a firm quantifiable grasp of the Chaos Legion fan base making it that much easier to justify to the bean counters.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/12 07:48:52
Subject: Re: RevisedChaos Marine Supplements -- 1st rules leaks
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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You've got to be kidding me? The Marine one at least had a purpose because the different Chapters have their own rules (and sometimes even entire Codices).
This is a complete joke.
I mean, can you imagine:
GW Employee: Welcome to Games Workshop, how can I help you?
Shiny New Customer: Hey there! I'm looking to start Chaos as I'm tired of all the Strength D my Eldar has. I'm really not sure which type of Chaos force to get.
GWE: You are in luck my friend! The fine folks at the studio put together this fun little flow-chart.
SNC: Sweet. Let's take a look.
GWE: So what do you think?
SNC: Doesn't say much about Night Lords, but they sound pretty cool.
GWE: They are! They're all about terrifying their enemies before they destroy them. There's a heavy stealth element to them, and they strike swiftly with bikes and Rapters.
SNC: Wow. Pretty cool. So what sort of units do they get?
GWE: Well they get all the usual Chaos units, but they should really go heavy on Raptors, Bikes and Warptalons.
SNC: But... the Codex here says that all three of those take up the same slot. Don't they get to take Warptalons as Elites, or Raptors as troops or something?
GWE: Well no, they have one list to use.
SNC: So they get some special rules to bring the army to life, kinda like Raven Guard do.
GWE: Well... no. Not really. But it's a pretty cool theme.
SNC: Right... ok, well, what about... oh! Blood for the Blood God, hey? Khorne is a fun guy. How about the World Eaters?
GWE: Great army! Tons of Berzerkers.
SNC: And Berzerker Bikers and Terminators and Raptors?
GWE: No, it's, like the Night Lords, it's the same basic list. You can give units Marks though.
SNC: But they have special rules for their Khorne worship and stuff, right?
GWE: Really it's just the Berzerkers who represent the "World Eater" side of it.
SNC: Ah... ok, well, let's go blue then, hey? Thousand Sons look amazing. They must have tons of psykers and special rules for mastering the Warp right?
GWE: Not so much.
SNC: Oh...
GWE: Again, it's the same list they're working from.
SNC: So the Wolves get fancy storm powers, but the 1KSons just get... the same list as everyone?
GWE: Uhh... yeah.
SNC: Right. Well... hold on? I don't remember there being a Crimson Slaughter Legion?
GWE: They're not. They're a new warband. They have their own Codex supplement.
SNC: So you're saying that the Legions don't have their own rules when Chapters do, but some random Warband nobody's ever heard of warrants its own supplement book?
GWE: One of the Legions has its own book.
SNC: Which one?
GWE: Black Legion.
SNC: The Chaos Ultramarines have their own book, but the Night Lords are stuck with their most iconic units all in one slot?
GWE: You can take formations.
SNC: Where are those?
GWE: In the Crimson Slaughter book!
SNC: ...
GWE: ...
SNC: Yeah Imma go play a Loyalist Chapter. They get rules to make them unique... not just a paint job.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/12 07:54:08
Subject: RevisedChaos Marine Supplements -- 1st rules leaks
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Executing Exarch
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I'm pretty sure it is a joke, yeah.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/12 07:56:49
Subject: RevisedChaos Marine Supplements -- 1st rules leaks
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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But don't you see? Even with the Codehks Asstarteeez, the Spess Muhreens are more unique, diverse and special that those pathetic traitors!
How dare they try to warp reality, and force players/readers to question themselves. Automatically Appended Next Post: I'm hoping this is all a wind up to the release of a super-amazing CSM book.
Wait, scratch that. I'll end up wasting a ton of money, and it'll be made useless by the following C:SM release.
And the counter-chaos Eldar update.
And that much needed Tau update.
Still no IG though.
Don't forget, we REALLY need a new Ultramarine display in every GW store. Like, once per month. At least.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/12 10:04:18
Subject: RevisedChaos Marine Supplements -- 1st rules leaks
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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Red Corsair wrote:I'd go further and say there is no real way of eliminating slaanesh from 40k without detonating the whole setting. The whole Eye of Terror and emergence of chaos was during the birth of slaanesh. It was Slaanesh pleasure cabals that roped good 'Ol Horace into their side as well if I remember correctly. Not to mention the whole eldar line has been modeled around their fate with "she who thirsts."
Cute story, but I don't really see why you'd spread such a s"theory." It will just snowball like a game of telephone and upset a lot of collectors.
Umm...You realize of course that just because you eliminate slaanesh from _current_ timeline(gets locked up or something) doesn't require rewriting HISTORY?
Slaanesh in AOS is missing. Slaanesh pre-End Times didn't get retconned away. Just because I die in one day doesn't mean I didn't exists now.
They can have plotline change in 40k making Slaanesh missing just as Slaanesh is missing in AOS and it does not change Eye Of Terror, Horus Heresy bit at all.
Elves in FB were pretty damn tied with Slaanesh as well...No reason same thing can't apply to Eldar.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/12 20:54:38
Subject: RevisedChaos Marine Supplements -- 1st rules leaks
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Automated Rubric Marine of Tzeentch
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PFFFFFT HAHAHAHAHA Automatically Appended Next Post: Gamgee wrote:Hmmmm chaos is too popular and integral to be left for long like Sisters.
There is a theory they want to get rid of Slaanesh from the setting like they did with Age of Sigmar. All of these stories are building up to a large story event.
Allegedly there is going to be a Dark Eldar campaign book or something this year and for a long time there are hints that the Eldar race as a whole have found a way to kill Slaanesh. however the problem with this is their own god would need to be placed there. I think it was the Eldar God of death or something.
Anyways so if that happens which I think is likely then we have to see Chaos revised completely. We also know from reports that Chaos Marines are being worked on and that they are trying to work on whatever the big event for them it likely next year. I think the Eldar god of death being bad for everybody would be a great thing to revitalize Chaos. It lets them move Slaanesh out of the limelight. It lets them pour money into Chaos line to update it and get rid of some old kits and add new stuff for the new god.
This is just my personal theory from information I've gathered. It is based on what people say is solid rumors. Barring the Dark Eldar ones which were rated as fairly poor.
If this exact chain of events doesn't happen something similar enough will happen. Since this is a big task it's taking a long time to get all of the preparation work done.
That all sounds unlikely, and as a chaos player I'd consider that to be a huge slap in the face. The pantheon already has 2 gods of death, and by the way, as someone who's never read the Age of Sigmar stuff would you mind explaining how exactly they got rid of Slaanesh? I remember seeing a Slaaneshi Age of Sigmar formation somewhere.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/12 22:32:53
Subject: Re: RevisedChaos Marine Supplements -- 1st rules leaks
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Maybe its naive but I think Slaanesh has been incapacitated in AoS because its a new story and AoS is meant to be all about the narrative.
This allows for something different between Slaanesh and the Elves/Eldar rather than being explicitly the same as 40k. We already had 8th edition Fantasy where authors apparently forgot there was any distinction.
Slaanesh will come back when they get around to producing a new KoS and they want to ship it. Maybe they will decide they never want to do that but it seems suspect as its an obvious money spinner.
In the same way a new LoC will be an obvious money spinner and at some point (perhaps in the next twelve months if this is indeed a year of Tzeentch) GW will get around to releasing one.
And if it does I think its highly likely to come with a Tzeentch Daemonkin style book because GW will want all Chaos players to think about buying it.
Unfortunately this means regular CSM get left behind.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/14 03:31:21
Subject: RevisedChaos Marine Supplements -- 1st rules leaks
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Munga wrote:The thing that gets me about the Cabal formation that everyone is excited about is that there was a telepathy spell that was in the BRB of 6th edition that allowed you to make enemy units shoot eachother. If I remember right, CSM didn't have telepathy access, though. It's really sad that everyone is excited about that spell because we don't have any decent guns on our own  Is there a page somewhere giving more details on the Crimson Slaughter formations? The BOLS doesn't show what the formations actually do.
It was Puppet Master, but the Cabal version is much better.
Puppet Master was shorter range, a witchfire (so you had to roll hit and couldn't use it in combat), only affected one model instead of the whole unit, and you had to randomly select the model.
Even then it was still very good, but Shroud of Deceit is definitely better.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/14 08:34:51
Subject: RevisedChaos Marine Supplements -- 1st rules leaks
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Red Corsair wrote: angelofvengeance wrote: Gamgee wrote:Hmmmm chaos is too popular and integral to be left for long like Sisters.
There is a theory they want to get rid of Slaanesh from the setting like they did with Age of Sigmar. All of these stories are building up to a large story event.
Allegedly there is going to be a Dark Eldar campaign book or something this year and for a long time there are hints that the Eldar race as a whole have found a way to kill Slaanesh. however the problem with this is their own god would need to be placed there. I think it was the Eldar God of death or something.
Anyways so if that happens which I think is likely then we have to see Chaos revised completely. We also know from reports that Chaos Marines are being worked on and that they are trying to work on whatever the big event for them it likely next year. I think the Eldar god of death being bad for everybody would be a great thing to revitalize Chaos. It lets them move Slaanesh out of the limelight. It lets them pour money into Chaos line to update it and get rid of some old kits and add new stuff for the new god.
This is just my personal theory from information I've gathered. It is based on what people say is solid rumors. Barring the Dark Eldar ones which were rated as fairly poor.
If this exact chain of events doesn't happen something similar enough will happen. Since this is a big task it's taking a long time to get all of the preparation work done.
You clearly haven't been paying attention. Slaanesh is still a part of AoS.
I'd go further and say there is no real way of eliminating slaanesh from 40k without detonating the whole setting. The whole Eye of Terror and emergence of chaos was during the birth of slaanesh. It was Slaanesh pleasure cabals that roped good 'Ol Horace into their side as well if I remember correctly. Not to mention the whole eldar line has been modeled around their fate with "she who thirsts."
Cute story, but I don't really see why you'd spread such a s"theory." It will just snowball like a game of telephone and upset a lot of collectors.
http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2016/04/chaos-the-state-of-the-major-daemons.html
This is just the latest time and here we've seen rumors that GW doesn't like Slaanesh anymore or at the very minimum is looking to see them toned down significantly. Then look at Age of Sigmar and how Slaanesh is gone and lets be honest never coming back. For years now they've been saying Slaanesh is trouble to make models for due to the sexuality of the models. So if you tone them down and it takes away from what Slaanesh is then whats the point even?
Mark my words. Slaanesh's days are numbered. Not like that line ever sold particularly well either in terms of the four gods. Another laser dot to put to his forehead.
I'll be happy if I'm wrong since I personally like the four Chaos gods, but the evidence suggests otherwise.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/14 10:23:55
Subject: RevisedChaos Marine Supplements -- 1st rules leaks
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Gamgee wrote: Red Corsair wrote: angelofvengeance wrote: Gamgee wrote:Hmmmm chaos is too popular and integral to be left for long like Sisters.
There is a theory they want to get rid of Slaanesh from the setting like they did with Age of Sigmar. All of these stories are building up to a large story event.
Allegedly there is going to be a Dark Eldar campaign book or something this year and for a long time there are hints that the Eldar race as a whole have found a way to kill Slaanesh. however the problem with this is their own god would need to be placed there. I think it was the Eldar God of death or something.
Anyways so if that happens which I think is likely then we have to see Chaos revised completely. We also know from reports that Chaos Marines are being worked on and that they are trying to work on whatever the big event for them it likely next year. I think the Eldar god of death being bad for everybody would be a great thing to revitalize Chaos. It lets them move Slaanesh out of the limelight. It lets them pour money into Chaos line to update it and get rid of some old kits and add new stuff for the new god.
This is just my personal theory from information I've gathered. It is based on what people say is solid rumors. Barring the Dark Eldar ones which were rated as fairly poor.
If this exact chain of events doesn't happen something similar enough will happen. Since this is a big task it's taking a long time to get all of the preparation work done.
You clearly haven't been paying attention. Slaanesh is still a part of AoS.
I'd go further and say there is no real way of eliminating slaanesh from 40k without detonating the whole setting. The whole Eye of Terror and emergence of chaos was during the birth of slaanesh. It was Slaanesh pleasure cabals that roped good 'Ol Horace into their side as well if I remember correctly. Not to mention the whole eldar line has been modeled around their fate with "she who thirsts."
Cute story, but I don't really see why you'd spread such a s"theory." It will just snowball like a game of telephone and upset a lot of collectors.
http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2016/04/chaos-the-state-of-the-major-daemons.html
This is just the latest time and here we've seen rumors that GW doesn't like Slaanesh anymore or at the very minimum is looking to see them toned down significantly. Then look at Age of Sigmar and how Slaanesh is gone and lets be honest never coming back. For years now they've been saying Slaanesh is trouble to make models for due to the sexuality of the models. So if you tone them down and it takes away from what Slaanesh is then whats the point even?
Mark my words. Slaanesh's days are numbered. Not like that line ever sold particularly well either in terms of the four gods. Another laser dot to put to his forehead.
I'll be happy if I'm wrong since I personally like the four Chaos gods, but the evidence suggests otherwise.
Sorry if I'll believe the words of Hastings, who's said that the Greater Daemons for ALL gods (yes, that includes Slaanesh) are finished, over yours. Sad Panda as well, who iirc has also mentioned Slaanesh being held back for a big story element, which is what literally everyone except BulloLGak and SpikeyBait are claiming.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/14 12:00:54
Subject: RevisedChaos Marine Supplements -- 1st rules leaks
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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Rygnan wrote:Sorry if I'll believe the words of Hastings, who's said that the Greater Daemons for ALL gods (yes, that includes Slaanesh) are finished, over yours. Sad Panda as well, who iirc has also mentioned Slaanesh being held back for a big story element, which is what literally everyone except BulloLGak and SpikeyBait are claiming.
Then again the rumours mentioned several ideas being scrapped. It is possible that Hasting has seen one of _those_(and glottkin as GUO before it was turned to glottkin). This way both would be correct.
It's also possible Slaanesh isn't dead for sure but in limbo until GW figures out what to do with it. Keep it around fluff, do something when somebody comes with sellable idea. Much like Bretonnia seemed to never get update because they weren't sure what direction to take(but with assumption that slaanesh still could come back. Unlike Bretonnia)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/14 12:25:52
Subject: RevisedChaos Marine Supplements -- 1st rules leaks
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Wondering Why the Emperor Left
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Gamgee wrote: Red Corsair wrote: angelofvengeance wrote: Gamgee wrote:Hmmmm chaos is too popular and integral to be left for long like Sisters.
There is a theory they want to get rid of Slaanesh from the setting like they did with Age of Sigmar. All of these stories are building up to a large story event.
Allegedly there is going to be a Dark Eldar campaign book or something this year and for a long time there are hints that the Eldar race as a whole have found a way to kill Slaanesh. however the problem with this is their own god would need to be placed there. I think it was the Eldar God of death or something.
Anyways so if that happens which I think is likely then we have to see Chaos revised completely. We also know from reports that Chaos Marines are being worked on and that they are trying to work on whatever the big event for them it likely next year. I think the Eldar god of death being bad for everybody would be a great thing to revitalize Chaos. It lets them move Slaanesh out of the limelight. It lets them pour money into Chaos line to update it and get rid of some old kits and add new stuff for the new god.
This is just my personal theory from information I've gathered. It is based on what people say is solid rumors. Barring the Dark Eldar ones which were rated as fairly poor.
If this exact chain of events doesn't happen something similar enough will happen. Since this is a big task it's taking a long time to get all of the preparation work done.
You clearly haven't been paying attention. Slaanesh is still a part of AoS.
I'd go further and say there is no real way of eliminating slaanesh from 40k without detonating the whole setting. The whole Eye of Terror and emergence of chaos was during the birth of slaanesh. It was Slaanesh pleasure cabals that roped good 'Ol Horace into their side as well if I remember correctly. Not to mention the whole eldar line has been modeled around their fate with "she who thirsts."
Cute story, but I don't really see why you'd spread such a s"theory." It will just snowball like a game of telephone and upset a lot of collectors.
[LINK that i dont want to quote lol]
This is just the latest time and here we've seen rumors that GW doesn't like Slaanesh anymore or at the very minimum is looking to see them toned down significantly. Then look at Age of Sigmar and how Slaanesh is gone and lets be honest never coming back. For years now they've been saying Slaanesh is trouble to make models for due to the sexuality of the models. So if you tone them down and it takes away from what Slaanesh is then whats the point even?
Mark my words. Slaanesh's days are numbered. Not like that line ever sold particularly well either in terms of the four gods. Another laser dot to put to his forehead.
I'll be happy if I'm wrong since I personally like the four Chaos gods, but the evidence suggests otherwise.
Wow that article is so bad written. Especially the part about the Slaanesh one. Do they really think GW builds up a Slaanesh vs Aelfs confrontation without using it in the future? AoS is a story, not so much a setting (although it gets better and feels more like a setting after the last book).
And just to quote the horrible part lol
The designers are struggling with a new mandate to tone down the adult sexual aspect of the Dark Prince, while keeping up a distinctive visual theme for the Slaanesh range that ties into the other Daemon minis.
Multiple design elements from older Keeper of Secrets designs (going back to the 90s) have been tried without satisfactory results.
What xD? The designers doesn't struggle at all lol. And Slaanesh daemons already got toned down, they just get half bras and tits on one side these days ...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/14 12:31:42
Subject: Re: RevisedChaos Marine Supplements -- 1st rules leaks
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Evasive Pleasureseeker
Lost in a blizzard, somewhere near Toronto
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Tyel wrote:Maybe its naive but I think Slaanesh has been incapacitated in AoS because its a new story and AoS is meant to be all about the narrative.
This allows for something different between Slaanesh and the Elves/Eldar rather than being explicitly the same as 40k. We already had 8th edition Fantasy where authors apparently forgot there was any distinction.
Slaanesh will come back when they get around to producing a new KoS and they want to ship it. Maybe they will decide they never want to do that but it seems suspect as its an obvious money spinner.
In the same way a new LoC will be an obvious money spinner and at some point (perhaps in the next twelve months if this is indeed a year of Tzeentch) GW will get around to releasing one.
And if it does I think its highly likely to come with a Tzeentch Daemonkin style book because GW will want all Chaos players to think about buying it.
Unfortunately this means regular CSM get left behind.
People really need to stop this Tzeentchkin/Nurglekin/Slaaneshkin silliness... How many times do the likes of Sad Panda/Atia have to come out and re-iterate that the Khornekin book was nothing more than a rushed-in-a-weekend job that was slapped together, purely to sell the new Bloodthirster in 40k?
There is no Tzeentchkin book coming.
Sad Panda has said multiple times that *IF* GW put out anymore cross-system material, then it'll be a helluva lot more well planed & thought out than the gakfest that Khornekin was.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/14 15:55:02
Subject: RevisedChaos Marine Supplements -- 1st rules leaks
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Haemonculi Flesh Apprentice
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tneva82 wrote: Red Corsair wrote:I'd go further and say there is no real way of eliminating slaanesh from 40k without detonating the whole setting. The whole Eye of Terror and emergence of chaos was during the birth of slaanesh. It was Slaanesh pleasure cabals that roped good 'Ol Horace into their side as well if I remember correctly. Not to mention the whole eldar line has been modeled around their fate with "she who thirsts."
Cute story, but I don't really see why you'd spread such a s"theory." It will just snowball like a game of telephone and upset a lot of collectors.
Umm...You realize of course that just because you eliminate slaanesh from _current_ timeline(gets locked up or something) doesn't require rewriting HISTORY?
Slaanesh in AOS is missing. Slaanesh pre-End Times didn't get retconned away. Just because I die in one day doesn't mean I didn't exists now.
They can have plotline change in 40k making Slaanesh missing just as Slaanesh is missing in AOS and it does not change Eye Of Terror, Horus Heresy bit at all.
Elves in FB were pretty damn tied with Slaanesh as well...No reason same thing can't apply to Eldar.
Sure except that would take something else entirely. Like end times 40k and the whole thing blowing up rather then being seconds until midnight. Something that has been debunked by reliable rumor mongers. So in the end if they off Slaanesh, I am guessing it will be in concert with ruining 40k anyway.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/14 16:04:37
Subject: RevisedChaos Marine Supplements -- 1st rules leaks
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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Red Corsair wrote:Sure except that would take something else entirely. Like end times 40k and the whole thing blowing up rather then being seconds until midnight. Something that has been debunked by reliable rumor mongers. So in the end if they off Slaanesh, I am guessing it will be in concert with ruining 40k anyway.
Not really. It could be written to be as part of storyline that ticks clock another second toward midnight.
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