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2016/04/11 21:36:20
Subject: Re:Imperial Knights - Renegade
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Bounding Dark Angels Assault Marine
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From Warfo
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2016/04/11 22:45:39
Subject: Re:Imperial Knights - Renegade
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Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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Where does one find the rules for Gerantius and how does one go about fielding him? I think I want to make him my second knight to my Warden.
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2016/04/11 23:14:23
Subject: Imperial Knights - Renegade
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Well, looks like I'll be starting a Knight Household for 30k. Two boxes down the road and a knight or two from FW and I'll be good to go!
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2016/04/11 23:58:09
Subject: Re:Imperial Knights - Renegade
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Hunter with Harpoon Laucher
Castle Clarkenstein
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It's a good deal. I decided to tempt all my players to get in on it. Charging 157.00 for it for people that pre-order.
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....and lo!.....The Age of Sigmar came to an end when Saint Veetock and his hamster legions smote the false Sigmar and destroyed the bubbleverse and lead the true believers back to the Old World.
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2016/04/12 00:49:36
Subject: Imperial Knights - Renegade
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Fixture of Dakka
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A good deal from GW , This must be a Sign that the emperor is returning!
Nice i am running out of space for big models though
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2016/04/12 01:37:09
Subject: Imperial Knights - Renegade
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Blood-Raging Khorne Berserker
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So, it looks like a Knight Household will now begin. I'm getting annoyed with these lower priced bundle things they're doing. It's taking too much of the loot outta my pockets
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2016/04/12 01:57:06
Subject: Imperial Knights - Renegade
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Hanskrampf wrote: filbert wrote:How inured are people now to GW's prices where they can bundle a couple of models together, knock a bit of money off the massively inflated RRP and suddenly, it's a massive bargain? It only seems a bargain because the price is artificially high in the first place. I really wish GW would take a long hard look and conduct a root and branch price review for the express purpose of growing their games and customer base rather than constantly jacking prices up and then bundling stuff together to make it seem like you are getting a great deal. Hoping against hope, I guess.
120 GBP for 2 Knights and one bit of scenery is still too much? I have seen the Knight sprues and the completed models, a kit of this size for 55 GBP (one Knight and minus scenery)? I think that's pretty good. Reduce it by further 20% from resellers. That IS a bargain, no matter the initial RRP of a single Knight.
Ya he's just being a salty GW hater.
The fact is not only is this kit over 40% off (why aren't people including the terrain kit in the markdown price? And there is a special renegade transfer sheet). It's also sold to retailers at 40% off the msrp. That is a freakin massive deal. Even the crappier looking fake Knights people were using as proxies cost more then that. This is a huge deal anyway you look at it.
However do I really need 3 Knights? Sure ad lance is a cool formation but then all of a sudden I'm that guy at the flgs!
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2016/04/12 03:02:03
Subject: Re:Imperial Knights - Renegade
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Hunter with Harpoon Laucher
Castle Clarkenstein
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Everyone may soon be "that guy with knights"
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....and lo!.....The Age of Sigmar came to an end when Saint Veetock and his hamster legions smote the false Sigmar and destroyed the bubbleverse and lead the true believers back to the Old World.
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2016/04/12 03:10:55
Subject: Imperial Knights - Renegade
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Gun Mage
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This deal almost invalidates the sale of the standalone Warden, since the marginal cost of a second knight is pretty small.
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2016/04/12 04:36:24
Subject: Imperial Knights - Renegade
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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TheWaspinator wrote:This deal almost invalidates the sale of the standalone Warden, since the marginal cost of a second knight is pretty small.
Just like the Heros of the Space Marines pretty much invalidates the 3 clampack characters included in it, and some of the Getting Started kits invalidate other kits- Crisis Suits, Carnosaur, ect.
For some reason GW is not willing/able to lower prices, so they are doing these bundles to give effective price drops on a number of kits.
A Friend and I are going to split this set so we both get another knight. The Paladin + terrain is not too far in price from the Warden, so it is a near even split.
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2016/04/12 04:38:51
Subject: Re:Imperial Knights - Renegade
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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There will be a 40k Renegade Knight datasheet and rules for playing Knights(?) in CSM and CD armies in the box
Archibald_Tk - Warseer
So to answer a few questions some of you may or may not have asked:
- AFAIK the game is not restricted to English.
- The two Knights in the story are the Ever-Stalwart of House Terryn (Battle Cannon, Reaper Chainsword, Icarus Autocannon, Heavy Stubbers) and the Litany of Destruction (Reaper Chainsword, Thunderstrike Gauntlet, Ironstorm Missile Pod, Heavy Stubber).
- There are only two big cards, one for each of these knights setups. But there are references to play with other weapons setups.
- Game includes a Datasheet to play a Renegade Knight in 40K, but there is only one sheet so I hope they're not restricted to the CC version.
- Also includes a detachment to ally Knights to CSM and Chaos Daemons.
- 8 pages of rules including the 40K ones if I got it right.
It didn't notice anything special regarding availability.
There are no rules in the next WD (besides a new unrelated BaC scenario), so far it's all in the box.
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2016/04/12 04:51:59
Subject: Imperial Knights - Renegade
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Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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MajorWesJanson wrote: TheWaspinator wrote:This deal almost invalidates the sale of the standalone Warden, since the marginal cost of a second knight is pretty small.
Just like the Heros of the Space Marines pretty much invalidates the 3 clampack characters included in it, and some of the Getting Started kits invalidate other kits- Crisis Suits, Carnosaur, ect.
For some reason GW is not willing/able to lower prices, so they are doing these bundles to give effective price drops on a number of kits.
A Friend and I are going to split this set so we both get another knight. The Paladin + terrain is not too far in price from the Warden, so it is a near even split.
Heroes of the Space Marines includes three models, but costs $10USD less than two. It is a fantastic deal. The Carnosaur is another good one, buy a Carnosaur, get two kits free.
This set is a pretty good deal too. In USD is it $157+$140+$33, so $330 value for $195. You are practically getting the second knight for free. I am going to keep an eye out for it on eBay, hopefully get it for 20% off. Then I get the knight and the scenery for free.
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5250 pts
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2016/04/12 04:57:13
Subject: Imperial Knights - Renegade
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Gun Mage
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MajorWesJanson wrote: TheWaspinator wrote:This deal almost invalidates the sale of the standalone Warden, since the marginal cost of a second knight is pretty small.
Just like the Heros of the Space Marines pretty much invalidates the 3 clampack characters included in it, and some of the Getting Started kits invalidate other kits- Crisis Suits, Carnosaur, ect.
For some reason GW is not willing/able to lower prices, so they are doing these bundles to give effective price drops on a number of kits.
A Friend and I are going to split this set so we both get another knight. The Paladin + terrain is not too far in price from the Warden, so it is a near even split.
The Carnosaur one is probably the strangest of that bunch. It's literally the same retail price for just a Carnosaur and for a Carnosaur with bonus stuff. Unless you can find a clearance deal on a Carnosaur, there's really no downside to getting the extra figures. Even the Crisis Suits one isn't quite as messed up, since there is a small price difference. It's good that they're creating some bundles with saner prices, but the standalone prices are still inflated to the point where they just look strange next to the bundle price.
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2016/04/12 05:06:25
Subject: Imperial Knights - Renegade
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Enigmatic Chaos Sorcerer
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Just as I was looking to add another Knight to the stable. Well played GW, well played.
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BlaxicanX wrote:A young business man named Tom Kirby, who was a pupil of mine until he turned greedy, helped the capitalists hunt down and destroy the wargamers. He betrayed and murdered Games Workshop.
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2016/04/12 06:04:01
Subject: Imperial Knights - Renegade
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Irked Necron Immortal
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TheWaspinator wrote: MajorWesJanson wrote: TheWaspinator wrote:This deal almost invalidates the sale of the standalone Warden, since the marginal cost of a second knight is pretty small.
Just like the Heros of the Space Marines pretty much invalidates the 3 clampack characters included in it, and some of the Getting Started kits invalidate other kits- Crisis Suits, Carnosaur, ect.
For some reason GW is not willing/able to lower prices, so they are doing these bundles to give effective price drops on a number of kits.
A Friend and I are going to split this set so we both get another knight. The Paladin + terrain is not too far in price from the Warden, so it is a near even split.
The Carnosaur one is probably the strangest of that bunch. It's literally the same retail price for just a Carnosaur and for a Carnosaur with bonus stuff. Unless you can find a clearance deal on a Carnosaur, there's really no downside to getting the extra figures. Even the Crisis Suits one isn't quite as messed up, since there is a small price difference. It's good that they're creating some bundles with saner prices, but the standalone prices are still inflated to the point where they just look strange next to the bundle price.
It's probably because of our retail KPIs - high sales of boxed sets looks better on a financial report than the sale of individual kits, and we're explicitly told to go for boxed set sales more than individual kits.
It's also a pretty standard sales technique related to Golilocks pricing - the individual kit seems expensive, the boxed set includes that kit + a bunch of other stuff for only a little more than the individual kit, thus seeming like much better value than it might otherwise appear. In short, the boxed set's price is juuuuuuuust right.
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2016/04/12 06:22:47
Subject: Imperial Knights - Renegade
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Well, this is going to be my forray into imperial big stompy robots...
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2016/04/12 06:49:10
Subject: Imperial Knights - Renegade
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Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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I get the feeling it will be for a lot of people. I actually considered getting my first knight a few weeks ago. Now I am get two!
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5250 pts
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Deathwatch: 1500 pts
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2016/04/12 07:02:06
Subject: Imperial Knights - Renegade
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
Cozy cockpit of an Imperial Knight
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For me this is crossing into the territories of "Do I add another pair of blue Knights to my Questoris, or do I finally go for Freeblades now?"
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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2016/04/12 07:11:48
Subject: Imperial Knights - Renegade
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Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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BrookM wrote:For me this is crossing into the territories of "Do I add another pair of blue Knights to my Questoris, or do I finally go for Freeblades now?"
Why not both? Make a blue knight and a freeblade? That is my plan. A blue Knight Warden, and a green Freeblade Knight (that can function as Gerantius if I want to).
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5250 pts
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2016/04/12 07:26:56
Subject: Imperial Knights - Renegade
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[MOD]
Decrepit Dakkanaut
Cozy cockpit of an Imperial Knight
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casvalremdeikun wrote: BrookM wrote:For me this is crossing into the territories of "Do I add another pair of blue Knights to my Questoris, or do I finally go for Freeblades now?"
Why not both? Make a blue knight and a freeblade? That is my plan. A blue Knight Warden, and a green Freeblade Knight (that can function as Gerantius if I want to).
True, it would also be the perfect excuse to finally get a House Terryn upgrade kit from Forge World at long last.
Chances are mine will be another Paladin and a Crusader then, one can never have enough dakka.
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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2016/04/12 08:27:32
Subject: Imperial Knights - Renegade
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I always wanted to get 2 more to bring me up to 3.
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2016/04/12 12:01:02
Subject: Re:Imperial Knights - Renegade
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Dakka Veteran
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Well played, GW.
I have wanted a Knight for a while but I am not buying one at 110eur or two at 220eur. Two for 160 eur? Yes please.
They are not losing money by giving a discount. From me they are getting 160eur instead of 0eur.
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2016/04/12 13:28:03
Subject: Re:Imperial Knights - Renegade
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Auspicious Aspiring Champion of Chaos
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jullevi wrote:Well played, GW.
I have wanted a Knight for a while but I am not buying one at 110eur or two at 220eur. Two for 160 eur? Yes please.
They are not losing money by giving a discount. From me they are getting 160eur instead of 0eur.
This is why GW has been creating such outstanding deals on their box sets! Look at how many $30 mono-pose minis you get in Deathwatch: Overkill for $165. They have created a better price point while still generating revenue.
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2016/04/12 15:00:25
Subject: Imperial Knights - Renegade
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Most Glorious Grey Seer
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reds8n wrote:$195 for a new boxed game called "Imperial Knight: Renegade" (1 Imperial Knight, 1 IK Warden and 1 Sanctum Imperialis + rules)
Given that my LFGS sells at a 25% discount, I would pay $146.25 for a whopping 55.7% discount over retail. Basically you get all three items for the price of one Knight.
Too bad I don't really need any more Knights. :(
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2016/04/12 15:15:20
Subject: Imperial Knights - Renegade
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Death-Dealing Devastator
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Breotan wrote: reds8n wrote:$195 for a new boxed game called "Imperial Knight: Renegade" (1 Imperial Knight, 1 IK Warden and 1 Sanctum Imperialis + rules)
Given that my LFGS sells at a 25% discount, I would pay $146.25 for a whopping 55.7% discount over retail. Basically you get all three items for the price of one Knight.
Too bad I don't really need any more Knights. :(
You might need more Knights but at that price can you afford to say no?
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2016/04/12 15:42:07
Subject: Imperial Knights - Renegade
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Executing Exarch
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Anyone have the SEK price?
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2016/04/12 15:45:10
Subject: Imperial Knights - Renegade
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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MajorWesJanson wrote:
For some reason GW is not willing/able to lower prices, so they are doing these bundles to give effective price drops on a number of kits.
A Friend and I are going to split this set so we both get another knight. The Paladin + terrain is not too far in price from the Warden, so it is a near even split.
That was the edict from Rowntree though, he stated both that there would be no price reduction of stock but that there should be more 'bang to your buck' in a box...
It may relate to share price and investor view on lowering prices vs putting out these boxes to get around that, a sale without having a sale...
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2016/04/12 15:56:01
Subject: Imperial Knights - Renegade
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Rampaging Reaver Titan Princeps
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MeanGreenStompa wrote:
That was the edict from Rowntree though, he stated both that there would be no price reduction of stock but that there should be more 'bang to your buck' in a box...
It may relate to share price and investor view on lowering prices vs putting out these boxes to get around that, a sale without having a sale...
Could also be an attempt at market research - a search for the pricing sweet spot for different kits...
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2016/04/12 16:01:08
Subject: Imperial Knights - Renegade
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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I'm baffled by the logic I frequently see that goes something like: "this set of multiple things is a good deal, and at my stores X% discount, it makes it an even better deal vs retail!"
Wouldn't you also get that X% discount on the individual components of the set? That doesn't make it any better of a deal.
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2016/04/12 16:03:33
Subject: Imperial Knights - Renegade
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Mymearan wrote: foostick wrote:I can see the Warden on the GW site, what's the other one going to be? The £85.00 one would be the "standard" I'd guess?
Yep, a good way to get rid of stock I think, I doubt anyone is buying those anymore.
I doubt that's the reasoning when you consider that the cheaper knight is the exact same as the warden but without an extra sprues of weapons.
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