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 Kanluwen wrote:

 totalfailure wrote:
GW has been very vague and contradictory on product shelf life as of late. It benefits them to be that way, so you run out and buy it NOW! Knights is a core product, whatever that means. Until it isn't any more. At some point decided by GW, which may be three months or 3 years from now.

To be fair, the only people saying it's "limited" are independent retailers.

Nothing against them--but it could be that it's intended to be a splash release to them and then shift to a "core" item at their own shops.

Which incidentally is pretty good idea. There IS limit on how many boxes you can really expect to sell those quickly. As it is after initial period all products suffer slowdown. And that's one big box. Big expensive boxes that don't sell at high pace aren't that effective for stores. They want generally stuff that moves at fast pace.

So makes sense to have it online only after certain period.

Charax wrote:
True, but it is the most likely source of where GW borrowed the idea from, wouldn't be the first time they've been "Inspired" by SST

Gonna say... look at the Cadians armour.

Is there any confirmation that the chaos knight rules will be in White Dwarf? I really don't want to buy the whole box just for two pages of rules.

 Kavish wrote:
Is there any confirmation that the chaos knight rules will be in White Dwarf? I really don't want to buy the whole box just for two pages of rules.

It's in the game box set. Wasn't in the White Dwarf.

 Kavish wrote:
Is there any confirmation that the chaos knight rules will be in White Dwarf? I really don't want to buy the whole box just for two pages of rules.

Yes, they'll be in this weeks (WD 117). Should feature rules for Chaos Marks on Knights, and a formation of 3 Knights (though I can't remember any details on rules)

If it has not been confirmed yet, Renegade is indeed a limited run (at least, GW have told our store there will be no more after this order).

Ours arrived yesterday, and I penned a few thoughts on it. Link in the sig, if anyone is interested (if you aren't, I can give you the short version - it is a box set with two Knights for £120. You decide whether it is worth it!).

Might that not mean that it's limited for stores though, and might still be up for direct sale?

 Mymearan wrote:
Might that not mean that it's limited for stores though, and might still be up for direct sale?

Perhaps, though I am trying to think of something else released recently that did that...

That still wouldn't stop them from doing an encore print run due to "high demand", might be a year or two like space hulk, but still always possible.

 Kavish wrote:
Is there any confirmation that the chaos knight rules will be in White Dwarf? I really don't want to buy the whole box just for two pages of rules.

I'm sure someone wanting just the models would be happy to mail the useless rules stuff to you...

MongooseMatt wrote:

 Mymearan wrote:
Might that not mean that it's limited for stores though, and might still be up for direct sale?

Perhaps, though I am trying to think of something else released recently that did that...

Wasn't there a game, with Assassins, that has now been cycled off shelves to be replaced by this very new game...but is still available from Direct?

Assassinorum: Execution Force to be fair, wasn't half bad. I feel a lot more effort could have been put into the box though, models wise. 4 brand spanking new assassin models, 1 old CSM Lord, 3 ancient plastic CSMs and 15 DV cultists was a pretty crap deal.

I'd rather play execution squad. Far cheaper, more useful in 40k, etc. Why would I want to use to ginormous imperial knights when I could just download the rules and use epic titans? Or just play battletech?

Sorry gw, this game is a flop. Execution squad is far better, battle at calth, even better, deathwatch, even better yet, space hulk.. top of the hill

 455_PWR wrote:
Why would I want to use to ginormous imperial knights

The answer is in your question.

"Flop?"

I would expect it to sell VERY well. Better than Assassins, for sure. Probably similar dollar value to Horus Heresy.

It is two knights and scenery for the cost of one knight and scenery. Calling it a flop is quite possibly the most dillusional post recorded here today.

His post was about the game itself, I'm sure he wasn't commenting on the obvious cost savings.

I agree, there's little reason to buy this if you're looking for a new game; it's obviously been packaged to drive sales of certain models, not to be a real stand-alone game that will broadly be played.

The game part of this already existed in wd. They just bundled it in to justify a box set with savings. Many of these board games seem lime they work well out of the box but have limited expansion opportunities, but give you a small force to start into 40k.

 angelofvengeance wrote:

Charax wrote:
True, but it is the most likely source of where GW borrowed the idea from, wouldn't be the first time they've been "Inspired" by SST

Gonna say... look at the Cadians armour.

Snuh? Mobile Infantry armor looks more like what Space Marines wear.

I think a lot of people, when hearing SST, think of the movie first and not the novel.

 DarknessEternal wrote:

Snuh? Mobile Infantry armor looks more like what Space Marines wear.

HAHAHAHA
OH, It's funny because the film and the novel differ in their depictions of the Mobile Infantry!

Such a discrepancy has never been pointed out before! and your comment generates humour by conflating the two and implying that the comment was directed towards the depiction from the book and not the movie, as was obviously the case.

Such wit, good sir, well played indeed

Knights dispatched. If I'm lucky they'll be here tomorrow

 BrookM wrote:
I think a lot of people, when hearing SST, think of the movie first and not the novel.

How could you not, really? Klendathu Drop is awesome

 Theophony wrote:
That still wouldn't stop them from doing an encore print run due to "high demand", might be a year or two like space hulk, but still always possible.

Because reacting to demand is bad for Corporation and Consumers?

Unless this comes with Limited Edition stamped on it (it wont), then it's really a non-issue.

for those who wish to squint (from adeptus astartes on facebook)

Is that some kind of monster hand holding the top corner of the book or is a cat reading the rules?

These are Atia's photos. They were posted on B&C and her blog earlier

http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321335-imperial-knight-renegade/page-12#entry4371656

The fella is Sansa, her cat (afaik)












More pics on B&C

Warhams-77 wrote:

The fella is Sansa, her cat (afaik)

Not included in the box set, apparently...

Picked my copy earlier this morning, can't wait to get building again.

Need to make it to payday, then i'll pick up a copy. Funny enough I need some regular non FW knights. This deal is sweet and my kids have expressed interest in playing with me which is a sell to the wife.