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 Xenomancers wrote:
. Looks like the dolphins run game has lost some effectiveness. Or is that just Baltimore being really good on defense?


#2 Run Defense, I believe.

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 Ensis Ferrae wrote:
 Xenomancers wrote:

Typically calls don't go the patriots way. Not since the Tuck anyways. I'm used to it. It's actually a pretty terrible call to go to gronk on the final play. A few years ago against the panthers a defender literally bear-hugged gronk out of the endzone on the final play of the game. They rulled the ball uncatchable when it landed in the middle of the endzone. Refs never make PA calls against gronk - unless he ltierally gets tackled before the ball gets to him (which happens a great deal) Anyways - looks like Gronk's career is over.







Skip to about 2:00 in and explain to me how "typically calls dont go the patriots way." The League has players so afraid of getting a penalty due to touching The League's star snowflake that he turns into one of the best lead blockers in the game!

Humm - a QB blocking and players afraid to touch him? That's strange - free licks on the QB if you ask me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vng4fR8O17I
Anyways heres a link to the specific play I was talking about. AKA - flagrant disregard for the rules of football. People don't like it when the pats get a call on the last play - I understand it. Teams know they can get away with fouling pats on the last play. Wish I had time to make a montage but I don't - I am at work.

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 helgrenze wrote:
Funny thing, Philadelphia looked pretty good after the first 3 weeks. Then they had their bye. Next comes some really bad games for them.
So, What happened?

According to one theory I have heard floated, Tony Romo's back surgery. Apparently, "Sources" claim that this is Romo's last season. And Jerry wants him to get a ring. Which cannot happen if he retires during the season. So he 'gratiously' takes a backseat to be a back-up so he can be on the team during the run. The one team that, at that point, stood in the way was Philadelphia.

Of course that is just a theory.


Here's a better theory: the Eagles have a rookie quarterback and are a mid-level team at best. Just look at who they beat in those three weeks: the Browns (lol), the Bears (lol), and the inconsistent Steelers. Then they had playoff-worthy teams on the schedule and started losing. IOW, about what you expect from a 5-7 team: beat the joke teams, get an occasional win against better teams, but lose most of the tough games. There's no need to resort to bizarre conspiracy theories about the NFL sabotaging your team to get Romo a ring.

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 helgrenze wrote:
So, What happened?
What happened is what I said going into Week 7 after the Eagles lost to the Redskins:
 ScootyPuffJunior wrote:
I know it's easy to look for an outside source to blame for the loss, but the reality is that the Eagles were a fake 3-0 team going into their bye.
There are no nefarious, behind-the-scenes forces at work here... the Eagles just aren't that good.

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This is messed up. Heisman winner Rashaan Salaam found dead at 42.

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Why? Joe McKnight was murdered due to a road rage incident. A lot of former NFL players have bad stuff happen to them post-NFL.

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 jreilly89 wrote:
Why? Joe McKnight was murdered due to a road rage incident. A lot of former NFL players have bad stuff happen to them post-NFL.



"Why?" Really? Nothing wrong with a 42 year old dying...what was I thinking.
   
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 BigWaaagh wrote:
 jreilly89 wrote:
Why? Joe McKnight was murdered due to a road rage incident. A lot of former NFL players have bad stuff happen to them post-NFL.



"Why?" Really? Nothing wrong with a 42 year old dying...what was I thinking.


I'm saying why is it messed up? Plenty of NFL players meet rough ends, I don't see how its surprising, or at any rate worse than Joe McKnight. That was messed up.

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 jreilly89 wrote:
Why? Joe McKnight was murdered due to a road rage incident. A lot of former NFL players have bad stuff happen to them post-NFL.


The thing here is, there is none of that apparent... We don't know if it was suicide by pill, or whether he had a heart attack while alone.

That they found him by himself with "no evidence of foul play" could suggest to me that it was a health problem that no one knew about. IMHO, someone dying at age 42 overnight with "no foul play" is messed up, no matter who it is.
   
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 Ensis Ferrae wrote:
 jreilly89 wrote:
Why? Joe McKnight was murdered due to a road rage incident. A lot of former NFL players have bad stuff happen to them post-NFL.


The thing here is, there is none of that apparent... We don't know if it was suicide by pill, or whether he had a heart attack while alone.

That they found him by himself with "no evidence of foul play" could suggest to me that it was a health problem that no one knew about. IMHO, someone dying at age 42 overnight with "no foul play" is messed up, no matter who it is.


I guess? I mean, I'd think being murdered over an accident is more messed up than a guy possibly passing away from a health problem.

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 ScootyPuffJunior wrote:
 helgrenze wrote:
So, What happened?
What happened is what I said going into Week 7 after the Eagles lost to the Redskins:
 ScootyPuffJunior wrote:
I know it's easy to look for an outside source to blame for the loss, but the reality is that the Eagles were a fake 3-0 team going into their bye.
There are no nefarious, behind-the-scenes forces at work here... the Eagles just aren't that good.


Philly talk radio is ANGRY right now. Definitely a "FIRE EVERYONE" mood. Including the coach 12 games into his rookie season.

*You would think* that fans would be able understand why that's a bad idea. The Cleveland Browns are the perfect object lesson, after all.

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 jreilly89 wrote:

I guess? I mean, I'd think being murdered over an accident is more messed up than a guy possibly passing away from a health problem.


I think we're coming at this from opposite sides... I guess what I'm trying to say is that someone dying because of their health (presumably in this case) is kind of shocking to those of us who weren't professional athletes... It's messed up in the "if it can happen to him, it can happen to me" kind of way.

I personally see incidents like the road rage thing, or the NFLers who have shot themselves as less shocking because so many of them came up in environments where violence, gangs and the like were fairly normal... It's still messed up, but I guess because I can kind of foresee it happening, there's less shock.
   
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 ScootyPuffJunior wrote:
There are no nefarious, behind-the-scenes forces at work here... the Eagles just aren't that good.


Interesting development.....
Three of Dallas' remaining games have been "Flexed" to Prime Time.
The "Flex Schedule" was supposed to put games of interest and/or playoff significance into the spotlight. Dallas already has a playoff spot and can secure the #1 with a win and a Seattle loss or tie.
They win the Division with a win and a NYG loss or tie.
So their remaining games have very little significance.

So why Flex them to Prime Time?

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 helgrenze wrote:

So why Flex them to Prime Time?



My guess is that they are using similar logic to why we have Thursday games: people want more. In this case, the league is saying that Dallas games tend to have the highest ratings/viewership... so obviously MORE Dak and Elliott are good things.

   
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OMG!OMG!OMG! The freaking Detroit Lions are 8 and 4 4 more games to go. We shall see what happen. Bears ,Giants ,Cowboys and the Packer at home.
   
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 Ensis Ferrae wrote:
 helgrenze wrote:

So why Flex them to Prime Time?



My guess is that they are using similar logic to why we have Thursday games: people want more. In this case, the league is saying that Dallas games tend to have the highest ratings/viewership... so obviously MORE Dak and Elliott are good things.



Obviously it's about ratings. Not sure why this needs to be explained. I mean, a tilt between the Falcons and Bucs might technically have more "playoff implications." But to most of the country...eh.

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 helgrenze wrote:
So why Flex them to Prime Time?
Is this the first season of the NFL you've ever watched?

They've done flex scheduling for over 10 years and they have always favored teams that are winning and are popular because that's where the ratings (and money) lie. This is not a new phenomena and it's not the reason why the Eagles have lost. They've lost games because they aren't good.


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 Ensis Ferrae wrote:
Dallas games tend to have the highest ratings/viewership...
Yep. Dallas' win against the Redskins was the highest rated regular season game in over twenty years with 35.1 million viewers. Likewise, their game against the Vikings drew 21.8 million viewers, the most for any Thursday night game since they started.

For better or worse (definitely worse!), the Cowboys draw viewers.

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helgrenze, why did the Eagles lose again today? Did the Roger Goodell call down to Eagles sideline and demand Wentz stand there to allow Ryan Kerrigan to strip-sack him to end the game?

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DEZOAT wrote:
OMG!OMG!OMG! The freaking Detroit Lions are 8 and 4 4 more games to go. We shall see what happen. Bears ,Giants ,Cowboys and the Packer at home.


We are 9 -4 and the seahawks are about to smash our only real threat in the north, I am praying that Saint Stafford leads us to the promised land (or at least the NFC Title game) Giants, Cowboys, and Packers left! We have the talent to win out, but likely will go 1-2 but still win the north!
   
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 ScootyPuffJunior wrote:
helgrenze, why did the Eagles lose again today? Did the Roger Goodell call down to Eagles sideline and demand Wentz stand there to allow Ryan Kerrigan to strip-sack him to end the game?


Given the injuries to certain key players, it's to be expected. Have to admit, taking out the Long Snapper was a brilliant play. Taking out his back up was just being mean.

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 thekingofkings wrote:
and the seahawks are about to smash our only real threat in the north


Oops. On the good side, maybe the Seahawks managed to use up all of their bad plays for the rest of the season in a single game?

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 Peregrine wrote:
 thekingofkings wrote:
and the seahawks are about to smash our only real threat in the north


Oops. On the good side, maybe the Seahawks managed to use up all of their bad plays for the rest of the season in a single game?


Really needed Russ to pull that one out (I never count out the hawks if Russell is playing in the 4th quarter)
   
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 thekingofkings wrote:
DEZOAT wrote:
OMG!OMG!OMG! The freaking Detroit Lions are 8 and 4 4 more games to go. We shall see what happen. Bears ,Giants ,Cowboys and the Packer at home.


We are 9 -4 and the seahawks are about to smash our only real threat in the north, I am praying that Saint Stafford leads us to the promised land (or at least the NFC Title game) Giants, Cowboys, and Packers left! We have the talent to win out, but likely will go 1-2 but still win the north!


On behalf of the Bears and their ability to completely melt down in the final two minutes when they were threatening to win...completion/holding, completion/holding, 2 right-on-the-numbers dropped would've-been first down completions deep in Lions territory, game over...you're welcome.

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So Seattle lost.
A win by Dallas tonight pretty much guarantees them the #1 seed. Definitely the first round bye.

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 BigWaaagh wrote:
 thekingofkings wrote:
DEZOAT wrote:
OMG!OMG!OMG! The freaking Detroit Lions are 8 and 4 4 more games to go. We shall see what happen. Bears ,Giants ,Cowboys and the Packer at home.


We are 9 -4 and the seahawks are about to smash our only real threat in the north, I am praying that Saint Stafford leads us to the promised land (or at least the NFC Title game) Giants, Cowboys, and Packers left! We have the talent to win out, but likely will go 1-2 but still win the north!


On behalf of the Bears and their ability to completely melt down in the final two minutes when they were threatening to win...completion/holding, completion/holding, 2 right-on-the-numbers dropped would've-been first down completions deep in Lions territory, game over...you're welcome.


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 helgrenze wrote:
Given the injuries to certain key players, it's to be expected.
Everyone has hurt players. Good teams have depth and can overcome.
Have to admit, taking out the Long Snapper was a brilliant play. Taking out his back up was just being mean.
Right, because Washington's inept defense "took out" the long snapper when he injured his wrist and Celek when he got a stinger. I mean, Sproles I can understand because that was a bs play by Everett (who hopefully gets at least a decent fine for it), but come on...

Is it normal for Eagles fans (and probably media) to blame the other team when their players get hurt?

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 Alpharius wrote:
I thought he was joking there?
Hmm... I don't think so. This is the same guy whose "theory" is that the NFL wants Dallas to win the Super Bowl (so Jerry Jones can give Romo a ring) and since the Eagles "stood in the way" of Dallas making a run, they had to be stopped. It's also the reason one of the best and most popular teams in the league has had their high ratings-earning games flexed closer to prime time.

He also blamed the Seahawks for deliberately injuring (without evidence) two of the Eagles players when they stunk it up against them in Seattle.

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 ScootyPuffJunior wrote:
 helgrenze wrote:
Given the injuries to certain key players, it's to be expected.
Everyone has hurt players. Good teams have depth and can overcome.
Have to admit, taking out the Long Snapper was a brilliant play. Taking out his back up was just being mean.
Right, because Washington's inept defense "took out" the long snapper when he injured his wrist and Celek when he got a stinger. I mean, Sproles I can understand because that was a bs play by Everett (who hopefully gets at least a decent fine for it), but come on...

Is it normal for Eagles fans (and probably media) to blame the other team when their players get hurt?



So. How's the bandwagon? Looks like it might be a bit uncomfortable with everyone jumping on.
Rumor out of Dallas is that Romo doesn't get a Hall invite without a ring. It also suggests that he will retire after this season due to his back issues.



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