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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/16 01:54:29
Subject: Ghost in the Shell (live action movie)
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Vampire Huntrr D could be cool. There's a lot of really cool fluff in the books that the movies never touch on, like the interstellar war the vampires fought. Pilgrimage Of The Sacred And The Profane could make for a really cool movie.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/16 01:56:21
Subject: Ghost in the Shell (live action movie)
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Vampire Hunter D would make for a GREAT tabletop wargame too...
Anyway, I have a bit concerned how well they'll do a live action GitS - the original was a but talky/trippy in places!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/24 06:26:22
Subject: Re:Ghost in the Shell (live action movie)
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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Scarlett Johanssen is the female lead....nice!!!
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Mordant 92nd 'Acid Dogs'
The Lost and Damned
Inquisition
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/24 16:48:33
Subject: Ghost in the Shell (live action movie)
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Alpharius wrote:This one should be interesting - and certainly worth watching 'in theater' (I hope).
Also:
Yes, please!
That would be...awesome - if it go the SFX budget it would really need!
A Ninja Scroll movie would be great too!
I could see VHD as a movie, but why Ninja Scroll? Pretty much everything I remember from that film would appall western audiences.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/24 17:19:41
Subject: Ghost in the Shell (live action movie)
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Grisly Ghost Ark Driver
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As a huge fan of the original GitS movie and the one series Stand Alone Complex, I have to say I am not excited for this. Scarjo, while I think she does an awesome job as an action star is not who I'd want to play Motoko. Honestly I am pretty bored with Hollywood white washing and I think it will probably play a role in the sinking of this movie. It is something that audiences are not as "receptive" to anymore like say that Gods of Egypt crapfest. I'm pretty confident they could have found a strong female lead of Japanese decent to play the role.
Then there is Batou.... :( ..... just why...why even bother if your going to go with that kind of choice. Batou is my favorite of the GitS characters and having him poorly casted pretty much guarantees I won't want to see the movie.Oh well I guess on my part.
About the only thing that could probably get me to purchase a ticket at this point is how they approach the setting itself. If they go with Stand Alone Complex's clean look of slightly in the future I doubt I will see it in theaters. However, if they go with the dirty cyber-punk of the original movie then I may see the movie just to marvel at the setting.
Other things that will make or break me seeing this movie over the acting choices are if they even include the things that make GitS...well GitS. So, how much will it emphasize partial and full body prosthetics versus a life with no prosthetics, to include tackling the medical problems that arise with it? Will there be walker tanks, power armor, military grade cyborgs, optical camouflage and highly advanced concepts of the internet and hacking? Will this be a political thriller, bland action movie, techno mystery or ask meaningful questions and resemble a Blomkamp movie? Will there be a section 9 and what will its purpose be?
Basically the only thing that can save this movie for me is if despite its already awful casting choices, it looks and feels like GitS. I already suspect that the only GitS about this movie will be the names, vague impressions of the costumes and the movie's actual title. But, I am happy to be proven wrong.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/24 18:37:36
Subject: Re:Ghost in the Shell (live action movie)
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I would've suggested Rila Fukushima for the lead, but the problem is Asian actresses tend towards being waifs and are less than believable as action stars. Scarlett has the full figure of Kusanagi, but her facial structure is far off. Surely there's a female Asian action star that could've played the role? Of course that wouldn't draw as much attention as Scarlett...
It's really a pity that Americans are so openly racist against Asians, particularly the youth.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/24 19:25:16
Subject: Re:Ghost in the Shell (live action movie)
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Grisly Ghost Ark Driver
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trexmeyer wrote:I would've suggested Rila Fukushima for the lead, but the problem is Asian actresses tend towards being waifs and are less than believable as action stars. Scarlett has the full figure of Kusanagi, but her facial structure is far off. Surely there's a female Asian action star that could've played the role? Of course that wouldn't draw as much attention as Scarlett...
It's really a pity that Americans are so openly racist against Asians, particularly the youth.
The thing is people who do casting have much better resources than say you or I. So they probably have much better abilities to find people that are faithful to the role. GitS is probably only seen as a Scarjo vehicle and suspect it will only be superficially related to the source material. I bet it doesn't take place in Japan but somewhere obnoxious like New York or LA.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/24 19:49:59
Subject: Re:Ghost in the Shell (live action movie)
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BrotherGecko wrote: trexmeyer wrote:I would've suggested Rila Fukushima for the lead, but the problem is Asian actresses tend towards being waifs and are less than believable as action stars. Scarlett has the full figure of Kusanagi, but her facial structure is far off. Surely there's a female Asian action star that could've played the role? Of course that wouldn't draw as much attention as Scarlett...
It's really a pity that Americans are so openly racist against Asians, particularly the youth.
The thing is people who do casting have much better resources than say you or I. So they probably have much better abilities to find people that are faithful to the role. GitS is probably only seen as a Scarjo vehicle and suspect it will only be superficially related to the source material. I bet it doesn't take place in Japan but somewhere obnoxious like New York or LA.
This. It wouldn't even need to be someone well known in the part, as long as they're good.
Sadly, I agree with BG that it's probably going to only be tangentially related to the source material, especially if they're aiming it at the mass US market. I mean the US was a behind the scenes antagonistic force in quite a few of the plotlines in the series (culminating in their actions at the end of the second series) and weren't they also at least partly responsible for creating the Puppet Master in the film/manga? How well would that kind of portrayal of America in the future go over with mass markets in the US?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/24 20:21:54
Subject: Ghost in the Shell (live action movie)
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How is a western adaptation using western actors for a western audience whitewashing? Was Ken Watanabe playing Clint Eastwood's character in the Japanese version of The Unforgiven an unforgivable affront to ethnic swapping as well? Or was it a Japanese adaptation of an American film starring Japanese characters? If this version still took place in Japan and all the other characters were Japanese and she was also supposed to be Japanese there might be a case but that isn't what is happening. What I keep seeing is anime fans who can't seem to tell the difference between adapting source material and yellowface, which seems pretty problematic in itself as there are real issues in casting and this isn't one of them.
Things get adapted frequently across borders and changes are made. It could be a terrible movie but it has nothing to do with yellowface at all, unless one really doesn't understand what yellowface is.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/24 20:56:39
Subject: Ghost in the Shell (live action movie)
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What is Scarlett's character name in this anyway?
Is it still Motoko Kusanagi, or did they change it?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/24 21:08:17
Subject: Ghost in the Shell (live action movie)
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Grisly Ghost Ark Driver
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Ahtman wrote:How is a western adaptation using western actors for a western audience whitewashing? Was Ken Watanabe playing Clint Eastwood's character in the Japanese version of The Unforgiven an unforgivable affront to ethnic swapping as well? Or was it a Japanese adaptation of an American film starring Japanese characters? If this version still took place in Japan and all the other characters were Japanese and she was also supposed to be Japanese there might be a case but that isn't what is happening. What I keep seeing is anime fans who can't seem to tell the difference between adapting source material and yellowface, which seems pretty problematic in itself as there are real issues in casting and this isn't one of them.
Things get adapted frequently across borders and changes are made. It could be a terrible movie but it has nothing to do with yellowface at all, unless one really doesn't understand what yellowface is.
Well for one the Japanese movie was actually an adaption of a Clinton Eastwood movie in plot and point that carried the same name. It's not taking a movie about white people and just making them Japanese. So I don't see your point. Second, this might be new to you but while the US is a western country, Western =/= equal white. Especially in a country like the US which isn't a homogeneous ethnicity. You may also note that Japanese does actually refer to a country and an ethnicity were the US does not. So yes, taking a Japanese show and only changing the skin colors of the characters would be white washing.
As a non fan of anime , GitS being the end of my anime watching, what are the serious problems you see in casting outside of Hollywood going out of its way to ensure that no non-whites play non-white characters? I suppose something like Gods of Egypt was just a western adaption of Egyptian mythology then and was okay that they just left out brown skin. This way I'd feel comfortable with what I'm seeing.
If Scarjo's character's name is Major Motoko Kusanagi wouldn't that be yellow face? If Pilou Asbæk plays a character name Batou how is that not yellow face? Or is it required that eyes and skin be altered?
*edit: I really need to turn off my phone's autocorrect. I'm about done with my phone altering grammar and words incomprehensible for no understandable reason.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/24 21:30:22
Subject: Re:Ghost in the Shell (live action movie)
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I agree that it is a notorious case of Yellow Face.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/24 21:31:08
Subject: Ghost in the Shell (live action movie)
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Except the major inhabits a fully prosthetic body and her origins are completly shrouded in mystery. Not only that but here body is portrayed as ethnically neutral in every such way.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/24 21:47:56
Subject: Ghost in the Shell (live action movie)
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I pointed this out at the beginning, but ScarJoe fits very well the appearance of the Major in the Arise OVA series and its for TV spin off Alternate Architecture. So while I have no idea if the film will take place in Japan, the actress picked is not a completely out there suggestion for the role.
The OP article actually makes it sound like Section 9 works for a corporation (Hanka Robotics, which at least sounds Japanese) rather than the government, and the villains are targeting the company itself. It might be set in the US, but I don't think that in itself is going to kill anything cause futuristic city is futuristic city. Probably won't get any of the shady government grayness from SAC though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/24 21:49:59
Subject: Ghost in the Shell (live action movie)
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And this isn't taking Japanese people and just making them white.
It isn't rocket science to figure out. The assumption being played out is that because the character was Asian in the anime she has to be Asian in the adapted version, which is a silly assumption.
Thanks Captain Obvious. The fact there are lots of actors that aren't white is why I didn't single them out. Denzel Washington is about to play the same character also played by Yul Brenner and Takashi Shimua, npne of which ar Caucasian. Would you also like to point out that in most of the world it is football but in the US it is called soccer.
And since I said fans of the anime and not anime in general still falls into line of people being thoughtless in regards to this.
BrotherGecko wrote:If Scarjo's character's name is Major Motoko Kusanagi wouldn't that be yellow face?
That is a pretty big if there. I've said before if they say she is supposed to be Japanese and give her a Japanese name then that is indeed problematic, but we don't know that so pretending it is true and then using that hypothetical to get upset is fairly asinine. If they keep everything
I only studied Japanese language for a few yeatrs but nothing about the name Batou is screaming that it has to be Japanese only.
The wikipedia page is fairly awful in that is says she is playing Motoko Kusanagi but then says they don't know her name will be in the live action movie. Same on some others. If they try to give people Japansese names and set it in Japan then people have a right to be upset but at this point there are other issues we absolutely knw about but are ignored or downplayed because they aren't adaptation of a popular anime series. When we know actual information then we she get upset, not based on half-information or feelings.
As for real problems the most recent would be having Tilda Swinton playing a Himalayan and Emma Stone playing a Chinese/Hawaiian. Having the chance to make Iron Fist an Asian American instead of a Caucasian super martial artist trained in ancient Asian secrets and saving a bunch of Asians is certainly also a bit of an issue, but not the same one. Automatically Appended Next Post:
Then you don't know what that really is.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/24 22:00:38
Subject: Ghost in the Shell (live action movie)
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LordofHats wrote: The OP article actually makes it sound like Section 9 works for a corporation (Hanka Robotics, which at least sounds Japanese) rather than the government, and the villains are targeting the company itself. It might be set in the US, but I don't think that in itself is going to kill anything cause futuristic city is futuristic city. Probably won't get any of the shady government grayness from SAC though. That's how it read to me as well, which I found a bit disconcerting. The world of Ghost in the Shell was one of very strict government oversight and control. In that scenario I really don't see the government allowing a corporation to have its own private security force which employs black-ops veterans with such dangerous capabilities, such as those found in Section 9. Also, that shady government grayness was in the original film, too. Don't forget that Section 6 created the Puppet Master and attempted to assassinate the Major
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The Laws of Thermodynamics:
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/24 22:12:23
Subject: Re:Ghost in the Shell (live action movie)
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The most asian/japanese looking person in this group is far left...
Not seeing that either look Japanese to me here...
This girl looks more Japanese to me...
This guy....looks Japanese....
I guess what I am trying to say, and to echo, is that while the main character may have a Japanese inspired name...her look is not that of a Japanese or, in my opinion, even Asian, person.
I get that GitS is an Anime styled movie...but even within anime movies you can have characters that look like a specific ethnicity...or..you can have a more generalized looking character (which is what I feel is going on with GitS).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/24 22:14:09
Subject: Ghost in the Shell (live action movie)
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What is more Japanese about the little girl than the Major?
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The Laws of Thermodynamics:
1) You cannot win. 2) You cannot break even. 3) You cannot stop playing the game.
Colonel Flagg wrote:You think you're real smart. But you're not smart; you're dumb. Very dumb. But you've met your match in me. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/24 22:14:12
Subject: Ghost in the Shell (live action movie)
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Secret Force Behind the Rise of the Tau
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Arguably, the kind of state that existed in GitS wouldn't play well in the US. I think anyone watching SAC for the first time is in for some serious culture shock, because that stuff is kind of standard in lots of countries not America. Here though that level of government surveillance would be decried. It would be hard to convince an American mainstream audience to accept the traditional Section 9 as heroes imo.
In that scenario I really don't see the government allowing a corporation to have its own private security force which employs black-ops veterans with such dangerous capabilities, such as those found in Section 9.
Black Water wasn't that long ago was it?
Beyond that, to an American audience especially If we're going with the kind of Bladerunner/Neuromancer cyberpunk Americans in particular are very used to, a corporation wielding ludicrous amounts of power and having a private army is pretty standard.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/24 22:19:09
Subject: Ghost in the Shell (live action movie)
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LordofHats wrote:Arguably, the kind of state that existed in GitS wouldn't play well in the US. I think anyone watching SAC for the first time is in for some serious culture shock, because that stuff is kind of standard in lots of countries not America.
Maybe it isn't standard now but after two (more) world wars, one of which was a nuclear war? I think that would change a lot of things and I think viewers would realise that. I mean WW2 was enough for the US government of the time to round up some of its citizens and put them into camps, and in that war there wasn't really any substantial threat to the US homeland. So I can see the kind of future that Ghost in the Shell is set in coming to pass.
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The Laws of Thermodynamics:
1) You cannot win. 2) You cannot break even. 3) You cannot stop playing the game.
Colonel Flagg wrote:You think you're real smart. But you're not smart; you're dumb. Very dumb. But you've met your match in me. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/24 22:19:30
Subject: Ghost in the Shell (live action movie)
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LordofHats wrote: a corporation wielding ludicrous amounts of power and having a private army is pretty standard.
The mini game Mercs (and its boardgame Recon) is entirely based on that idea.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/24 22:31:34
Subject: Ghost in the Shell (live action movie)
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A Town Called Malus wrote:
Maybe it isn't standard now but after two (more) world wars, one of which was a nuclear war? I think that would change a lot of things and I think viewers would realise that.
Not what I'm talking about. I'm getting at what an audience here and now will accept as heroic. Unless you're doing it as a maverick whose fighting red tape and paper pushers looking out for themselves (i.e. Jack Bauer), those kinds of things get decried this side of the Pacific. I don't think a mainstream American audience would accept heroes who embrace that kind of law and order without a second thought.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/24 22:33:21
Subject: Ghost in the Shell (live action movie)
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LordofHats wrote: A Town Called Malus wrote: Maybe it isn't standard now but after two (more) world wars, one of which was a nuclear war? I think that would change a lot of things and I think viewers would realise that. Not what I'm talking about. I'm getting at what an audience here and now will accept as heroic. Unless you're doing it as a maverick whose fighting red tape and paper pushers looking out for themselves (i.e. Jack Bauer), those kinds of things get decried this side of the Pacific. I don't think a mainstream American audience would accept heroes who embrace that kind of law and order without a second thought.
Ah, I see. Sorry, I misunderstood. Though at the end of the day, Section 9 isn't bound by a lot of the red tape, as they are a secret organization. I mean, they've even assassinated people under the protection of foreign diplomats (opening of the first film, end of the second series) where it was apparent that the conventional police force was unable to act. Though they are actively working to keep the status quo of government surveillance and that kind of thing so, yeah... Maybe Ghost in the Shell just won't be these people's cup of tea?
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The Laws of Thermodynamics:
1) You cannot win. 2) You cannot break even. 3) You cannot stop playing the game.
Colonel Flagg wrote:You think you're real smart. But you're not smart; you're dumb. Very dumb. But you've met your match in me. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/25 00:15:09
Subject: Ghost in the Shell (live action movie)
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A Town Called Malus wrote: LordofHats wrote: A Town Called Malus wrote:
Maybe it isn't standard now but after two (more) world wars, one of which was a nuclear war? I think that would change a lot of things and I think viewers would realise that.
Not what I'm talking about. I'm getting at what an audience here and now will accept as heroic. Unless you're doing it as a maverick whose fighting red tape and paper pushers looking out for themselves (i.e. Jack Bauer), those kinds of things get decried this side of the Pacific. I don't think a mainstream American audience would accept heroes who embrace that kind of law and order without a second thought.
Ah, I see. Sorry, I misunderstood.
Though at the end of the day, Section 9 isn't bound by a lot of the red tape, as they are a secret organization. I mean, they've even assassinated people under the protection of foreign diplomats (opening of the first film, end of the second series) where it was apparent that the conventional police force was unable to act. Though they are actively working to keep the status quo of government surveillance and that kind of thing so, yeah...
Maybe Ghost in the Shell just won't be these people's cup of tea? 
It was never my "cup of tea" since cyberpunk, as a genre was dead when the first film was released in 1995. It was just another attempt to cash in on the Western "3rd Wave" anime explosion by Production I.G.. And the films/OVAs were not good adaptations of the manga (which was very relevant in it's time, and released at the waning days of cyberpunk's popularity), and not among Mamoru Oshii's best stuff.
In short, it's overrated in my opinion.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/25 01:59:03
Subject: Ghost in the Shell (live action movie)
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I personally am enjoying the butt hurt by 'progressives' over ScarJo being cast. Every time a character gets altered from the original source material I hear how race (or even gender) shouldn't matter. This seems like the inevitable consequence of this argument.
Personally, I am a stickler for the original material and it'd be my preference to see that on screen. But after being told so many times that such preferences we're 'non progressive' or 'wrong' or just outright racist, this amuses me no end.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/25 03:03:23
Subject: Ghost in the Shell (live action movie)
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Only in America do people complain about more ScarJo. My mother works in theater. It's acceptable for an originally white character to be played by someone else, but if a white person is cast in a previously non-white role people lose their minds. If Jada Smith was playing the lead role nobody would say a thing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/25 03:14:27
Subject: Ghost in the Shell (live action movie)
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Or Zoe Saldana
Or Michelle Rodriguez
Or Pam Grier
Or Halle Berry
Oh..but because she is a white girl...hey..lets throw out the color card.
Who's the hurt one, really....?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/25 03:29:29
Subject: Ghost in the Shell (live action movie)
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Monkey Tamer wrote:Only in America do people complain about more ScarJo. My mother works in theater. It's acceptable for an originally white character to be played by someone else, but if a white person is cast in a previously non-white role people lose their minds. If Jada Smith was playing the lead role nobody would say a thing.
That's a disingenuous assessment to make. I'd still be complaining. Primarily because I'm an advocate for Native American and Asian rights. They endure racism that is oft ignored in light of the overblown claims of racism against African-Americans and Arabs. Asians are horribly underrepresented in Hollywood and when they do appear it's all too frequently in a comic role as a male or femme fatale Dragon Lady. Even that stupid recent TV show, Fresh off the Boat I think, portrays them as being ignorant of basic American culture.
At least a few flicks, ie the Last Samurai (only Americans complained about this, the Japanese greatly applauded the representation of their culture and language), The Wolverine (aside from the idiocy of having Wolverine feth the Japanese female lead), and Letters from Iwo Jima have shewn Asians in a positive light.
I guess part of this is dear to me because I have and have had many Chinese or Korean friends, to include a former lover. I'm sick and tired of seeing them typecast as two dimensional characters or flat out ignored. They're people for feth's sake and deserve to be represented in the media.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/25 03:49:35
Subject: Ghost in the Shell (live action movie)
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How was The Wolverine a positive movie for asians?
The silver samurai tried to kill the hero.
The minister guy was into that underwear..fetish...thing...with two girls (lucky dog).
All the ninjas trying to kill Hugh....
Not really seeing anything positive.....
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Three!! Three successful trades! Ah ah ah!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/25 04:07:45
Subject: Ghost in the Shell (live action movie)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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TheMeanDM wrote:How was The Wolverine a positive movie for asians?
The silver samurai tried to kill the hero.
The minister guy was into that underwear..fetish...thing...with two girls (lucky dog).
All the ninjas trying to kill Hugh....
Not really seeing anything positive.....
Both female leads were relatively decent compared to most fare. The fact some were villains doesn't necessarily make the casting or characterization poor.
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