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2016/05/19 17:39:43
Subject: Re:General Trans bathroom thread, incl. target, federal involvement and more
That is because they want them in the MEN's room where they can give them the lockerroom justice they know they deserve.
They get mad if a FemaletoMale person who dresses based upon her gender identity (female) is in the women's room.
They get mad if a MaletoFemale person who dresses based upon her gender identity (male) is in the women's room (supposedly where they want them to be).
They get mad if a Female who doesn't dress or look the way they want them to is in the women's room.
This is why this is so insane... Most of the transgender 'loooka like ah man' people in the women's bathroom are going to be pre-transition FtM or NOT transgender women... Meaning they ARE WHERE YOU TOLD THEM TO BE WITH YOUR LAWS. And yet they still get harassed and beaten. This is 100% about bigotry and violence against Transgender, and nothing about safety or 'think of the children'.
Hey! Straight people have never harassed or killed any....er...well....THINK OF THE CHILDREN!
I got very embarrassed security called on me at the train station today. It was raining, so I was in a cap and had my hood up.
By the time I'd washed my hands, a member of staff had come in to escort me out.
Upon realising that I was "supposed" to be there, he went red, apologised and left.
My jimmies remain unrustled in a major way, but I'm hurt a little. Someone obviously had this entire issue on their mind due to media coverage. Rather than "you okay?" They went out and told the nearest staff.
I'm trying to just live my life, and keep under the radar. Feels like I can't do right.
But no, it went like:
Me: [Looks up from sink and sees uniformed guard watching] ...?
Guard: Um.
Me: ...?
Guard: There's um, been a complaint about a um, Buttery in the Non Buttery toilet.
Me: Do you really want to go through all this?
Guard: ...no
Me: Can I go?
Guard: Erm. Yes. Sorry. Really sorry.
Me: It's okay. You have to look if you're asked.
Guard: Yes.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Having just skimmed past this on my Facebook, I'm curious... What does this mean for the average person? I don't have a great understanding what a bill is.
House Passes Bill That Lets Government Contractors Fire People For Being LGBT
WASHINGTON — The House passed a massive National Defense Authorization Act late Wednesday, and tucked inside of it, a provision that would allow federal contractors to fire employees for being lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender.
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The House right now is pants on head crazy and trying to posture for their base. Don't worry. It won't go anywhere as it will never get past the Senate and Pres.
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2016/05/19 21:07:25
Subject: General Trans bathroom thread, incl. target, federal involvement and more
I'm afraid I don't really know what House, Senate, etc, are in terms of steps or hierarchy. I should probably read up on this.
Over here things are a lot simpler, as far as I'm aware.
But then there's a lot less of us to govern.
Buttery Commissar wrote: I'm afraid I don't really know what House, Senate, etc, are in terms of steps or hierarchy. I should probably read up on this. Over here things are a lot simpler, as far as I'm aware. But then there's a lot less of us to govern.
The House is 435 Representatives somewhat proportionally allocated by population.
The Senate is 100 Senators, where each states has 2.
The House generally creates appropriation bills to be voted/amended/re-voted etc...
The Senate takes up the House's bill and votes/amend/revote etc...
If the Senate makes some changes to House's bill, it goes back to the house to be 'reconciled'... ie, revoted.
Then it's sent to the President for signature.
As to the furor over this bill... A Democrat tried to insert an amendment that would have effectively nullified a provision in the defense authorization that the House passed late Wednesday night. That language embedded in the defense bill states that religious corporations, associations and institutions that receive federal contracts can't be discriminated against on the basis of religion.
Democrats are creating a ruckus that such provision "could potentially" allow discrimination against the LGBT community in the name of religious freedom.
Some serious derpage on both sides and gratituous awful messaging.
It's the Stray Voltage™ or Wedge Issue® theatre in action here.
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2016/05/19 22:48:54
Subject: Re:General Trans bathroom thread, incl. target, federal involvement and more
TheMeanDM wrote: Mr. Jackson feels safe in the boys’ bathroom at school
“The guys, they look at me like I’m some kind of freak, or they’re concerned or scared.”
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I am certain that at times he may have felt uncomfortable in there if he were getting looks from other students who WERE JUST AS UNCOMFORTABLE.
First...he is choosing to go into a bathroom that may make him uncomfortable (even though he says earlier in the interview he is more comfortable with himself than ever before).
Secind....there still appears to be zero regard for the uncomfortable feelings of those he is around.
TheMeanDM has invaded my space(dakka) and made me feel uncomfortable. Could I get a Mod to deal with this? Please take my feelings in to account, as they are precious to me.
(It wont work, it doesn't work like that)
2016/05/20 03:19:06
Subject: Re:General Trans bathroom thread, incl. target, federal involvement and more
Sounds like that lady needs to read matthew 5-29 through 30
I always feel the worst for the children. Like, protest and believe whatever crap you want, but does Timmy really need to be holding a sign saying "God hates gays"
Sounds like that lady needs to read matthew 5-29 through 30
I always feel the worst for the children. Like, protest and believe whatever crap you want, but does Timmy really need to be holding a sign saying "God hates gays"
How else would you indoctrinate the hate?
#indoctrinatethehate
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2016/05/20 14:05:44
Subject: Re:General Trans bathroom thread, incl. target, federal involvement and more
Sounds like that lady needs to read matthew 5-29 through 30
I always feel the worst for the children. Like, protest and believe whatever crap you want, but does Timmy really need to be holding a sign saying "God hates gays"
How else would you indoctrinate the hate?
Take em into the rest rooms and spy on peoples chuffs and pee pees?
2016/05/20 14:39:40
Subject: General Trans bathroom thread, incl. target, federal involvement and more
Honestly I feel like anyone who has more than say... 6 kids has some issues. I mean, I'm not saying everyone with that many kids are fundamentalist wackos, but if you make a venn diagram of fundamentalist wackos and people who have >6 kids, I suspect there is going to be some pretty significant overlap.
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2016/05/20 17:22:10
Subject: Re:General Trans bathroom thread, incl. target, federal involvement and more
Ouze wrote: Honestly I feel like anyone who has more than say... 6 kids has some issues. I mean, I'm not saying everyone with that many kids are fundamentalist wackos, but if you make a venn diagram of fundamentalist wackos and people who have >6 kids, I suspect there is going to be some pretty significant overlap.
Google 'quiverfull'. I agree, anyone over 4 kids instantly draws my suspicion as dangerously irresponsible or dangerously ideological.
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2016/05/20 17:24:46
Subject: General Trans bathroom thread, incl. target, federal involvement and more
hotsauceman1 wrote: Couldnt that time be vetter served doing gods work, ynow, helping the poor and downtrodden? And why so many kids?
Because Christians in America don't really worship or follow Jesus Christ any more.... They much prefer to worship and follow Republican Jesus
There's a spooky amount of truth in that.
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2016/05/20 17:36:47
Subject: General Trans bathroom thread, incl. target, federal involvement and more
hotsauceman1 wrote: Couldnt that time be vetter served doing gods work, ynow, helping the poor and downtrodden? And why so many kids?
Because Christians in America don't really worship or follow Jesus Christ any more.... They much prefer to worship and follow Republican Jesus
There's a spooky amount of truth in that.
The problem is that moderates are not newsworthy.
I suspect that for every fundi wack-job, there are dozens, if not hundreds of good, honest Christians. It’s just being decent, honest people trying to help in your small way does not generate headlines.
The same could be said for most groups. Our main exposure is the fringe elements.
12 kids. That's 9 years of being preggers. That would make anyone derpy.
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2016/05/20 18:35:26
Subject: General Trans bathroom thread, incl. target, federal involvement and more
Ouze wrote: Honestly I feel like anyone who has more than say... 6 kids has some issues. I mean, I'm not saying everyone with that many kids are fundamentalist wackos, but if you make a venn diagram of fundamentalist wackos and people who have >6 kids, I suspect there is going to be some pretty significant overlap.
I think you'd also find a lot of sub 100 IQ's in that overlap as well. Possibly - the main motivating factor.
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2016/05/20 19:44:05
Subject: General Trans bathroom thread, incl. target, federal involvement and more
The problem I have is that I frankly don't believe that you can have 12 kids and have enough time to give each of them the amount of care they deserve. I'm not sure where I'd draw the line for being irresponsible, but 12 is way past it.
2016/05/20 22:20:01
Subject: General Trans bathroom thread, incl. target, federal involvement and more
I read a Chinese document from the ming dynasty and there was a guy who had a daughter and he named her seventh daughter. Now this is rural ancient china but I think it gets the point across where the quality time with kids suffers the more you have
TheWaspinator wrote: The problem I have is that I frankly don't believe that you can have 12 kids and have enough time to give each of them the amount of care they deserve. I'm not sure where I'd draw the line for being irresponsible, but 12 is way past it.
Pretty Much how I feel, It gets too the point where its the kids raising the kids. and PArents dont do much because they have another kid.
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2016/05/20 22:48:51
Subject: Re:General Trans bathroom thread, incl. target, federal involvement and more
My state is doing what my state does best, and they are currently working on a religious protection bill that would require schools to build a third bathroom, so that if a student or parent raises a religious objection to having to share a bathroom with someone that is transgender they can go to the separate "birth gender only" bathroom.
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