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This is still something GW needs to work on IMO, asking 50% more for a model variant and a load of potentially useless extra pieces is exactly the sort of thing that really dents my optimism for their ability to change.

Razorback +£2.50
Chaos Rhino +£1
Chaos Land Raider +£1

All feature extra sprues over other kits that share the same base,

Stormhawk + ~£14.00.

 Azreal13 wrote:
This is still something GW needs to work on IMO, asking 50% more for a model variant and a load of potentially useless extra pieces is exactly the sort of thing that really dents my optimism for their ability to change.

Damn straight. I mean, the Ork flyer going from AUD$76 to AUD$114 for a new hat?

I think people who say GW are turning into a great company ever since Kirby got axed are deluding themselves.

 Azreal13 wrote:

 Hanskrampf wrote:

 BrokenRecord wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

Can anyone read what the USD price is?

It appears to be $29 US / 40 CAD, but that seems a little low, not that I'd complain if that was the case.

It's already 42 GBP and 52€. 29 USD can't be right.

So the Stormtalon is £27.50 as at 5 minutes ago, and this new flier, which is nothing more than a Stormtalon with recut/exchanged sprues, is £42?!!

No, we were talking the Ork prices, were we not? Didn't see any pic posted with the SM flyer prices yet.

Yup agree that the new models are nice but much too expensive. (One step forward two steps back for GW) Two questions. Are these the flyers that will be in the new game or will those be the base versions? Secondly anyone know what the following week's hint is?

It appears I did get hold of the wrong end of that stick, but the Dakkajet costs the same as the Stormtalon, so the point is still valid.

Chikout wrote:
Yup agree that the new models are nice but much too expensive. (One step forward two steps back for GW) Two questions. Are these the flyers that will be in the new game or will those be the base versions? Secondly anyone know what the following week's hint is?

Y'know...they could be in the new game. Darnok said "two new flyers" before the game came out, but could he have assumed it was a new kit rather than just upgrade frames?

Well, getting an extra fuselage of eBay would likely allow someone to build a Talon and Hawk. Not a great option, but it is there.

I do like the new marine craft better then the original, but not at that price. I'll glance at discounted retaliers to see how low it can get, but I'll probably pass on that

Wonder how hard it will be to use the Talon canopy with the visible pilot. I don't really dig the armored front with sensors look.

So I, like a moron, forgot this was my thread. I've updated the OP and will try to ensure I continue to do so.

 Azreal13 wrote:
This is still something GW needs to work on IMO, asking 50% more for a model variant and a load of potentially useless extra pieces is exactly the sort of thing that really dents my optimism...

Absolutely. They're asking 50 per cent more on the basis there's one more sprue. But they've presumably already recovered the bulk of their investment for the dakkajet kit, so it's hardly costing them 50 per cent more to produce. And as pointed out, even with the extra sprue, that's still only one model on the table.

There was a debate on another spread about the Flash Gitx being overpriced; but they were designed to integrate with Nobz, so you can actually use all the extra bitz you are paying for. This time around you're paying £14.50 to have a few more pieces in your bitz box.

That's what bothers most people about these multi-kit things.

They're not multi-kits. Just because you have a choice of 3 different things in the one box doesn't mean you can build all three of those different things.

50% for a new hat, that means I can't use the old hat? No thanks.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
That's what bothers most people about these multi-kit things.

They're not multi-kits. Just because you have a choice of 3 different things in the one box doesn't mean you can build all three of those different things.

50% for a new hat, that means I can't use the old hat? No thanks.

Yup. Going back to the Mek Gunz - it's what, $48USD for the kit? And it makes one mek gun, with the parts/sprues to also build the other variants. Yes, I could be a god little ork player and just convert, but what if I don't feel like it? Had the kit been $48 and made two mek gunz instead, I'd already several boxes. In the case of this new jet, a $25 price increase so I can built another variant and have a couple dozen parts left over doesn't do me any good.

So, the Ork flier either has a pair of Kustom Mega Kannons, or a pair of Really Big Telyportas. The rules should be interesting, at least.

More pictures of the Stormhawk Interceptor from Lady Atia's blog

Price of the Stormhawk is $55 USD. So $65 USD for the Ork plane seems about right(it's hard to tell an 8 from a 6 sometimes with these slightly out of focus photos).

Curious to see whether these will interact with new formations like the BaC models (swap in for model "X") or if they will get new formations of their own eventually.

 Kanluwen wrote:
More pictures of the Stormhawk Interceptor from Lady Atia's blog

Spoiler:

Price of the Stormhawk is $55 USD. So $65 USD for the Ork plane seems about right(it's hard to tell an 8 from a 6 sometimes with these slightly out of focus photos).

So only $9.50 for the extra sprue on the Stormhawk. Not as big as a price jump as I was fearing.

Looks miles better than the Storm Talon, and could easily serve as an Avenger.

I approve.

Not sure I have $55 worth of approval though...

That new sm flyer looks decked out in weapons. I see the Gatling gun from the stalker in the nose, 2 assault cannons, what looks like a skyhammer, and a pair of heavy bolters next to the cockpit. Beastly.

Interesting, they talk about a new supplement with new rules.

"... the ones mounted under its wings are an entirely separate part to the ones mounted on the turret of the Stormtalon's nose, so no matter how you build it you'll always have a pair spare!"

What were we just saying about this not being a good thing?

On the other hand, it does mean you can do a quad-Assault Cannon build, which would probably look pretty cool.

$9.50 isn't bad for an upgrade. Too bad it probably won't be available separate, which sucks. The Icarus Stormcannon and the Las-talon both seem like pretty cool weapons for a flyer. I wonder what the chaff-flares will do. Maybe give it a cover save while allowing it to keep firing?

If I end up getting one of these, I will probably try to figure out a way to use the original cockpit. I don't care for the Dreadnought enclosure.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
$9.50 isn't bad for an upgrade. Too bad it probably won't be available separate, which sucks. The Icarus Stormcannon and the Las-talon both seem like pretty cool weapons for a flyer. I wonder what the chaff-flares will do. Maybe give it a cover save while allowing it to keep firing?

Well, "Death From the Skies" introduces a dogfight phase and apparently updates all the datasheets for flyers across all factions, so likely Chaff-Flares do something against things with a "heat seeker" or whatever rule.

Curious about the Dogfight phase. Are they bringing back more complex flyer rules?

Source: War of Sigmar blog

 Kanluwen wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
$9.50 isn't bad for an upgrade. Too bad it probably won't be available separate, which sucks. The Icarus Stormcannon and the Las-talon both seem like pretty cool weapons for a flyer. I wonder what the chaff-flares will do. Maybe give it a cover save while allowing it to keep firing?

Well, "Death From the Skies" introduces a dogfight phase and apparently updates all the datasheets for flyers across all factions, so likely Chaff-Flares do something against things with a "heat seeker" or whatever rule.

Yeah, I can't say I am too thrilled about this thing only being in a separate supplement. That might actually keep me from buying it, to be honest. Not to mention, using it would require your opponent to be okay with playing with the optional rules.

One thing that Death from the Skies might do is ensure that everyone gets some more flyers.

This is perhaps my favourite image of it.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
$9.50 isn't bad for an upgrade. Too bad it probably won't be available separate, which sucks. The Icarus Stormcannon and the Las-talon both seem like pretty cool weapons for a flyer. I wonder what the chaff-flares will do. Maybe give it a cover save while allowing it to keep firing?

Well, "Death From the Skies" introduces a dogfight phase and apparently updates all the datasheets for flyers across all factions, so likely Chaff-Flares do something against things with a "heat seeker" or whatever rule.

Yeah, I can't say I am too thrilled about this thing only being in a separate supplement. That might actually keep me from buying it, to be honest. Not to mention, using it would require your opponent to be okay with playing with the optional rules.

"I want to play Death From the Skies".
"Okay"

One thing that Death from the Skies might do is ensure that everyone gets some more flyers.

Not likely. They're updating the datasheets of existing ones, not adding more from the looks.

 Frozocrone wrote:
This is perhaps my favourite image of it.

Spoiler:

Okay fine. I will take two of them. Damn you GW and your ability to push my buttons.

Blood Angels CONFIRMED!

I would imagine the Dogfight phase would only apply if both players are bringing flyers in their game, and only again if one or both of them have access to these "additional" rules. Shouldn't cause any issues, overall, but depending on the cost of the supplement I'll hold my breath and see. Updated flyer datasheets could be a good thing, some armies' flyers could use a little buffing if that's what they're going to do.