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Their both ok but No plastic thunderbolt makes me sad....

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 Frozocrone wrote:
This is perhaps my favourite image of it.

Spoiler:

Okay fine. I will take two of them. Damn you GW and your ability to push my buttons.

Blood Angels CONFIRMED!

Yeah, I collect Orks and sticking with my Blood Angels as opposed to jumping on White Scars bandwagon (bandbike?) so this set is brilliant for me

Really like the new SM flyer, like someone decided to fix the old one.

Love the extra bits for the Ork flyer.

Really don't care for the new prices.

Very keen to see if we get a funky game with kits in it for a decent discount overall. I have both marines and orks, that would tempt me.

Warhams-77 wrote:
Curious about the Dogfight phase. Are they bringing back more complex flyer rules?

The last bloody thing 40k needs is yet another layer of complexity and bloat. It needs a vicious pruning.

https://www.facebook.com/1575682476085719/photos/a.1576243776029589.1073741828.1575682476085719/1605780693075897/?type=3

Confirmed...

Oh hey look, more pictures from Lady Atia's blog



I swear I'm not getting paid to pimp her blog out!

 Matthew wrote:
https://www.facebook.com/1575682476085719/photos/a.1576243776029589.1073741828.1575682476085719/1605780693075897/?type=3

Confirmed...

A bit late...


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 Kanluwen wrote:
Oh hey look, more pictures from Lady Atia's blog

I swear I'm not getting paid to pimp her blog out!

She's basically the best news and rumors blog out there right now, so it is no surprise.

One question I would like to know answer to. Will the new ork flier box REPLACE older box(effective price hike for three older models) or as addition(at which point you only pay higher price for new variant and get lots of bits).

tneva82 wrote:
One question I would like to know answer to. Will the new ork flier box REPLACE older box(effective price hike for three older models) or as addition(at which point you only pay higher price for new variant and get lots of bits).

Short answer? Who knows!

Long answer? Who knows! The Imperial Knight kit wasn't replaced by the Knight Warden kit despite the Warden effectively making the Knight kit obsolete.

 Kanluwen wrote:
Oh hey look, more pictures from Lady Atia's blog

Spoiler:

I swear I'm not getting paid to pimp her blog out!

Great to hear all races will be updated- but I wonder if it's just to add the new Roles or if it would include points changes as well. Quite a few flyers are prohibitively costed for a competitive environment.

tneva82 wrote:
One question I would like to know answer to. Will the new ork flier box REPLACE older box(effective price hike for three older models) or as addition(at which point you only pay higher price for new variant and get lots of bits).

My sales rep confirmed this morning that both the Storm Talon and Ork Bomma box are being repacked to include these new options. So they will be a combined kit.

 Sinful Hero wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
Oh hey look, more pictures from Lady Atia's blog

Spoiler:

I swear I'm not getting paid to pimp her blog out!

Great to hear all races will be updated- but I wonder if it's just to add the new Roles or if it would include points changes as well. Quite a few flyers are prohibitively costed for a competitive environment.

Guess that all depends kn the new rules,an expensive unit may suddenly become.much more useful.

 Kanluwen wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
One question I would like to know answer to. Will the new ork flier box REPLACE older box(effective price hike for three older models) or as addition(at which point you only pay higher price for new variant and get lots of bits).

Short answer? Who knows!

Long answer? Who knows! The Imperial Knight kit wasn't replaced by the Knight Warden kit despite the Warden effectively making the Knight kit obsolete.

The two different knight kits are likely part of the varied price points thing GW was touting, so it's not too out of the question to see this might be the same .

 Kanluwen wrote:

"I want to play Death From the Skies".
"Okay"

"I want to play AoS with points."
"Ok."

I actually quite like the new Marine flyer, chiefly because it's much easier to pretend it's some kind of drone without the ridiculous little canopy on there.

But it still grinds my gears that they're retconning the prior fluff, especially as they do it in a way that just pisses all over the Imperial Navy.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 Frozocrone wrote:
This is perhaps my favourite image of it.

Spoiler:

Okay fine. I will take two of them. Damn you GW and your ability to push my buttons.

Blood Angels CONFIRMED!

sorry guys but these images are photoshop colour ins of the first photo posted.

so still not clear if BA will get them as well.

I wonder, will FW flyers be also updated in this book, or is it just for GWs things. Or maybe FW will do their own version of it?

 Yodhrin wrote:
But it still grinds my gears that they're retconning the prior fluff, especially as they do it in a way that just pisses all over the Imperial Navy.

Yeah, I have to admit the whole "[New Flyer] is the backbone of the Astartes air support..." made me laugh. Well, you mean it is now. Up until a week ago it didn't exist, unless you're saying that squadrons of these things have always been around, just off-camera to the left there, without us noticing.

I knew one of them would be a Space Marine flyer. Never bet against Marines.

Looks like you were way off on your prediction, Kanluwen. Which is sad, because despite everyone bitching about how overpowered Tau are, a plastic barracuda would have made a lot of sense...especially since it's now OOP at FW.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Yodhrin wrote:
But it still grinds my gears that they're retconning the prior fluff, especially as they do it in a way that just pisses all over the Imperial Navy.

Yeah, I have to admit the whole "[New Flyer] is the backbone of the Astartes air support..." made me laugh. Well, you mean it is now. Up until a week ago it didn't exist, unless you're saying that squadrons of these things have always been around, just off-camera to the left there, without us noticing.

It's exactly that, yeah. They kinda wrote themselves into a corner with Marines it seems. They want to keep making endless new models for Marine players to buy because Marines are their baby, their poster boys, their biggest sellers; but the problem is they wrote the fluff in a way that kinda makes it hard to give them anything new because of that whole, you know, "the backwards Imperium doesn't invent or innovate anymore and is regressing technologically" thing. So for the past few years we've just gotten this constant bullgak like "Oh, look at this old STC we found!" or "Let's just pretend we had this all along, 'kay?"

It's good to see marines finally getting some love... .. ...

 JHall wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
One question I would like to know answer to. Will the new ork flier box REPLACE older box(effective price hike for three older models) or as addition(at which point you only pay higher price for new variant and get lots of bits).

My sales rep confirmed this morning that both the Storm Talon and Ork Bomma box are being repacked to include these new options. So they will be a combined kit.

That stinks if your looking to build one of the Ork flyer formations as that tacks on another $20 for each dakkajet/bommer.

 Wilson wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 Frozocrone wrote:
This is perhaps my favourite image of it.

Spoiler:

Okay fine. I will take two of them. Damn you GW and your ability to push my buttons.

Blood Angels CONFIRMED!

sorry guys but these images are photoshop colour ins of the first photo posted.

so still not clear if BA will get them as well.

I hate the internet.

Bangles likely won't get anything, let alone this guy.

Wow, those are both ace. How little work the poor old stormguppy needed to actually look badass, huh?

I assume these are upgrade sprues and not a full remake?

 Sidstyler wrote:
I knew one of them would be a Space Marine flyer. Never bet against Marines.

Looks like you were way off on your prediction, Kanluwen. Which is sad, because despite everyone bitching about how overpowered Tau are, a plastic barracuda would have made a lot of sense...especially since it's now OOP at FW.

Yeah, I'm kinda irked about a new Marine flyer. I'd have been fine with it if they'd brought it in during the Kauyon book and folded it into the Raven Guard formations--the Stormtalon just felt so forced in for a lot of the formations it's in there.

Sorry that your Tau didn't get anything new, Sid!

 Yodhrin wrote:
But it still grinds my gears that they're retconning the prior fluff, especially as they do it in a way that just pisses all over the Imperial Navy.

I'm confused as to how the Marines getting a dedicated fighter-interceptor "pisses all over the Imperial Navy"?
The Marines have always been a separate entity, with their own armory covering everything from starships to sidearms.

 Sidstyler wrote:
It's exactly that, yeah. They kinda wrote themselves into a corner with Marines it seems. They want to keep making endless new models for Marine players to buy because Marines are their baby, their poster boys, their biggest sellers; but the problem is they wrote the fluff in a way that kinda makes it hard to give them anything new because of that whole, you know, "the backwards Imperium doesn't invent or innovate anymore and is regressing technologically" thing. So for the past few years we've just gotten this constant bullgak like "Oh, look at this old STC we found!" or "Let's just pretend we had this all along, 'kay?"

Eh. I kinda prefer the "Look, we found an old STC! Rush it into production!" approach.

 Kanluwen wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
One question I would like to know answer to. Will the new ork flier box REPLACE older box(effective price hike for three older models) or as addition(at which point you only pay higher price for new variant and get lots of bits).

Short answer? Who knows!

Long answer? Who knows! The Imperial Knight kit wasn't replaced by the Knight Warden kit despite the Warden effectively making the Knight kit obsolete.

The warden kit thingie is promising example as that didn't make knight kit obsolete(since you get basic knight cheaper with it) just like new ork flier kit not making previous kit older obsolete.

Hopefully they go same route...There's been good moves on GW so...Old GW would likely replace old flier box with new one. Now there's hope!


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 JHall wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
One question I would like to know answer to. Will the new ork flier box REPLACE older box(effective price hike for three older models) or as addition(at which point you only pay higher price for new variant and get lots of bits).

My sales rep confirmed this morning that both the Storm Talon and Ork Bomma box are being repacked to include these new options. So they will be a combined kit.

Oh crap. If true I might be better off buyign 2-3 boxes of old boxes quickly...

Casual observation here but 40k mini's have gone retro recently, and the design of the Knights did too.

We need retro on the flyer front, we need a thunderbolt and thunderhawk in plastic. Astartes shouldn't be wasted in a cockpit.

Sips tea and thumbs through Codex Ultramarines circa 1995.

 Wilson wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 Frozocrone wrote:
This is perhaps my favourite image of it.

Spoiler:

Okay fine. I will take two of them. Damn you GW and your ability to push my buttons.

Blood Angels CONFIRMED!

sorry guys but these images are photoshop colour ins of the first photo posted.

so still not clear if BA will get them as well.

So Blood Angels aren't exactly confirmed?

Why the feth did FW discontinued the Tau Barricuda!!!! I wanted one before for looks, and now I want one for this! :(

Tau Codex flyers suck the big one.

 Wilson wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 Frozocrone wrote:
This is perhaps my favourite image of it.

Spoiler:

Okay fine. I will take two of them. Damn you GW and your ability to push my buttons.

Blood Angels CONFIRMED!

sorry guys but these images are photoshop colour ins of the first photo posted.

so still not clear if BA will get them as well.

If these are photoshopped, then I applaud the photoshopping skills of whoever did the pic

OMG that's awesome! So much better than the Storm Talon.

I wish the DA flyers didn't have the DA "wing" on their wings.....but this is almost as nice as the DA ones. I'll probably get at least 3.

 Ghaz wrote:

 Wilson wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 Frozocrone wrote:
This is perhaps my favourite image of it.

Spoiler:

Okay fine. I will take two of them. Damn you GW and your ability to push my buttons.

Blood Angels CONFIRMED!

sorry guys but these images are photoshop colour ins of the first photo posted.

so still not clear if BA will get them as well.

If these are photoshopped, then I applaud the photoshopping skills of whoever did the pic

Definately same picture.

Edit : phone not uploading properly , will edit on Mac when I get to it!