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Yeah, Orks are the most equivalent here. The only other option would be Tau, for your style of construction, I think. Now, it could be very interesting to see you take on a more sculptural race such as 'nids or Eldar, (Dark Eldar titan?) but it would certainly be a stretch for your facilities.

 EmberlordofFire8 wrote:


What necron titan are you talking about? I didn't even know they had one...

There's also the large warlord sized eldar one and the Tyranids bio-titan.

Necron Obelisk and Necron Monolith are Warhound sized.

I was mistaken about the Eldar Titan. There are three different sized but all look so similar that only the size differentiates them. Not at all what one would expect from FW. A thoroughly lazy design.

As for Tyranids I have both the Hierophant and the Harridan but I draw the line at sculpting. It is not my milieu of choice.

If you are wanting to do another HUGE project next and want to stretch your creative side I suggest trying a necron custom super mega titanic creation. My two choices would be listed herehttps://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/necron-titans.261700/ a tomb stalker that would be monstrous in scale or the centipede creation, which FW had produced at some time in the past. Or you could build a sphinx type quadruped as a Titan for one of their dynastys. You could probably eBay the necron c'tan shard pieces to have one at the heart of whatever beast you make. Each would give you new challenges. Multiple legs (balancing and function), non humanoid frame (figuring out locomotion) and overall aesthetics that would fit the Necron theme.

Orcs would be cool too, by I worry about your penchant for perfection and their ramshackle contraption building might cause an aneurism.

Just 'cause Orks are ramshackle doesn't mean that the greatest of da Mekboyz izn't gunna be a purfekchunist. A bit ov aysimmitree neva 'urt no-one eeva.

Massive:

One of the problems I notice about many scratchbuilds is the author does not build massive enough. Particularly floors, walls, hydraulic cylinders/pistons and in this case the DECK.

My deck right now is 19,44 MM (A skosh over 49/64 inch) thick; about 4 feet 8 inches thick. Still seems rather thin to me but I still have to add the bulwarks which will double the thickness in appearance at least.

http://i.imgur.com/2FT99sf.jpg


The quarter view shows the depth of the model which suits my eye for the time being.

http://i.imgur.com/lLICDnN.jpg


And the side view shows I need to increase the rear overhang by about 25 scale feet. to allow for the main Cathedral/Fortification

http://i.imgur.com/fk8jegb.jpg


Omnissiah bless me.






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Anvildude wrote:
Just 'cause Orks are ramshackle doesn't mean that the greatest of da Mekboyz izn't gunna be a purfekchunist. A bit ov aysimmitree neva 'urt no-one eeva.

I believe Orc Titans are excellent projects for those new to scratchbuilding. An excellent ground for honing skills plus the finished project is gratifyingly huge to wow your friends. And the beauty is it is virtually impossible to make a mistake.

Once the skills are developed the budding scratcher can up date and enhance the detail as the spirit moves him (or her).

Ork titans are also great for those with a lot of practice, due to their ability to be sort of.. diorama homes. Lots of room for character scenes, and the ability to experiment without having to throw out the prototypes.

Also, I totally feel you on the 'massivity' thing. One of my particular pet peeves is when people make scratchbuilt Cannons, and the barrel walls are just a single layer of plasticard or whatever. Barrels need to be THICC dangit!

Anvildude wrote:
Also, I totally feel you on the 'massivity' thing. One of my particular pet peeves is when people make scratchbuilt Cannons, and the barrel walls are just a single layer of plasticard or whatever. Barrels need to be THICC dangit!

It's a daunting thing when one embarks on a scratch building project. A good supply of plasticard stock is an expensive outlay for the first time builder.

I suggest searching with google for a local industrial plastic supply house in your area. They are usually found in Industrial parks and the ones I have encountered are happy to sell to you. I buy my sheet styrene in 3 foot by 4 foot sheets that run about a $1 buck an square foot. Industrial quality styrene is a bit softer than the Hobby Shop styrene and is easier to cut.

I use a Stanley Utility knife with a retractable blade and a yellow spare blade storage compartment and buy my blades in bulk at Home Depot. Most of the time for long straight cuts I use the knife but for straight or curved cuts on styrene up to 0.040 inch (1,0 MM) a pair of good scissors are useful for cutting out your pieces. Never use Xacto blade knives for your basic cutting. They are too flimsy and break too easy for precision straight cuts. The blade wobbles and your cut looks ragged and sloppy.

More Later

Another potential source of plastic- Ask the local chain convenience store. Not the locally owned ones, but the ones that're part of a bigger company, like Sheetz or BP, and ask them to save you some of their old signs if they throw them out. That stuff is decent plastic, if you can get past the, well, signage on it. And there's a ton of it- every time they get a new product or change prices, that'll usually be at least 10 or so signs being changed.

Originally I was going to skin the bottom of the deck with 0.040inch (1,0 MM) sheet styrene but to lose all this gratis detail would be a crime. The honeycomb pattern I believe will look phenomenal especially when picked out with Ad Mech paraphernalia plus giving a ready base for Gothic substructure.

http://i.imgur.com/MvSu8xJ.jpg


I've used about all of the 2 foot by 4 foot panel with barely enough left for my proposed interior wall structure.

http://i.imgur.com/jIAACTD.jpg


A wise investment indeed.

 The_Blackadder wrote:


A wise investment indeed.

You could probably hang girders lights, banners and cables on the underside.

There is a tremendous amount of detail including the main weapon arms to embellish this area. I am very glad I discovered these panels.

I'll have to check the local Home Depot for those sheets .

Surely the mechanicum would have mitred corners??

Not necessary, each corner has a octagon shaped pilbox so I need only cut off the excess once the glue has dried. Incidentally and thanks for reminding me I need to make these rhombus shape structures removable to prevent damage when the Titan is disassembled.







And an interior shot of the Emperor Titan War Room



Incidentally this is an excellent video showing an Emperor Titan in motion:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6z0klMZ7r8M&t=162s

Lovely work as always!

Skitarii Not Included:

My loyal readers must be getting tired of what looks like virtually the same images but trust me there is a lot of work that goes into the interim between sets of images.

http://i.imgur.com/rDghlAT.jpg


Plus this b@$tard just looks so GD cool between shots I just can't help taking photos.

http://i.imgur.com/YOGcJob.jpg


It makes me regret taking so long to begin working on a God Machine.

http://i.imgur.com/INc4qXz.jpg


Lots of people had asked but I just couldn't find the right initiative to begin the build.

Many thanks to the various unsung internet artists that contributed to this effort knowingly and otherwise. If you see your work in this please let me know.

I might just glad I'm not at work tonight and CAN see the pics.

The squares you have on the panels might be good locking points for the removable corner pieces. Make a square that inserts into it up from the bottom and then attach the upper half by magnets to lock them into place.

Look Ma, No Clamps!

So finally after a week's work since I got the idea to use a defusing panel for the deck of the superstructure I'm able to demonstrate the 3D aspect of the chest area.

https://i.imgur.com/mdqKL3z.jpg


Utilizing the waffle design recesses the hanging structures plug right in, require no gluing and so are readily removable for transporting and storing.

https://i.imgur.com/rTI9dZF.jpg


I wish I could say I planned it that way but no, the idea just came to me in a fit of desperate inspiration.

https://i.imgur.com/ToyB8cd.jpg


Another unplanned bit of luck, the corbels buttresses were spaced just about perfect to span the corners of the deck almost as if it were designed that way. :Whew:

https://i.imgur.com/16u5G9V.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/VJgTk1n.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/djaoAjx.jpg


So with this accomplished and the front overhang somewhat justified I can begin the command compartments and design the main weapon arms this weekend.

Great stuff, Blackadder! Keep these updates coming!

Keep going dude!

Is that little rod in the back there to move the head of the Titan or is there a more sinister use for it?

 Theophony wrote:
Is that little rod in the back there to move the head of the Titan or is there a more sinister use for it?

The rod is to wedge behind the head to keep it from drooping as it is doing in the photo. It's quicker than tightening the friction lock every time I move the head.

The Corner Turrets:

I've become quite adept at handling the very brittle diffuser panel material. When I first began it seemed almost impossible to cut without mishap but now I have a feel for how much stress the individual cell walls can take. Of the original eight square feet of the panel I have about two sq ft left. I am going today to buy another sheet.

These (styrene compatible) panels, custom cut by me, to the various shapes required will figure prominently in my builds from now on as an easy way to add bulk without a lot of weight and material plus the square design makes for very accurate construction.

Now regarding the image below; these will be the internal bracing for the turrets. The first order of business is to cut and sand them to uniform size.

https://i.imgur.com/Q65n2z9.jpg


Having cut out the turret frames last night, after sleeping on the problem, today I'll be adding skin to them for strength and preparing the connecting strips to flesh out the turret octagonal walls.

https://i.imgur.com/vsRWbDp.jpg


Hopefully more images today...............

Hmm, what kind of turrets will these be. And will there be turrets on the titan's legs?

These turrets:



Technically not rotating turrets but elevating/depressing turrets.

Corner Turrets:

Once again I am relying on my eye to proportion these components as the drawing I am working from is too vague and in perspective to measure accurately.

https://i.imgur.com/zIhZwbR.jpg


Note also my octogons' are sides are still not equal in width. I intend to correct this with subsequent layers of 0.030 inch styrene.

https://i.imgur.com/fyHWAw5.jpg


My work area and basic tools here show nothing special is needed to make these models. There are tools that facilitate the manufacture; drills and belt sanders &etc but mostly I work with hand tools in front of the computer screen while I watch/listen to the news.

https://i.imgur.com/A3vSJjK.jpg


Note the paint vial used as a spacer, It appears captured for the time being but only until seven sides are built. Then it will be removed. The reason for this will become apparent as the turret framework progresses.............

I'm really tired right now, and my first though upon seeing those pics was "thats an odd handgun" before realising I was looking at a ruler. Great job.

A Front Row Seat:

At what very likely be one of my failures. When I thought this up it seemed very simple.

https://i.imgur.com/3eVFIDy.jpg


But the reality may be more difficult.

I'm trying to make a simple eight sided cone with strips all in one piece converging on the apex of the cone and being symmetrical all at once.

A worthy experiment but I'm afraid doomed to failure.....

https://i.imgur.com/zPAEMyU.jpg


And you're here to watch Ha!

It's like watching a show about alligators, you watch just in case the cameraman forgets to turn it off when e guy gets bit .

We are here to support you though as this is a really awesome build already.

Flat cone, or rounded cone? Because for a flat cone, all you need to do is create 8 isosceles triangles with w=the length of your sides, and h=how tall you want them (with a little trig if you want a specific apex height as opposed to just length of the triangular sections.) Bevel the inner edges to... 22.5? degree angles or so, and you should be able to glue them up nicely.

Well D-mn me it worked.

and no one is more surprised that I am.

While somewhat crude the shape and size is right and when all the embellishments are added it will be just about right. I am quite happy with the result.

https://i.imgur.com/TmxF3BW.jpg


One thing that will have to be done is lower the bottom edge until it is even with the under deck cove molding.

https://i.imgur.com/2XsMkQA.jpg


Now I just have to make 3 more.